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lunch998 02-16-2005 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=sublime420]Yes, because Linkin Park, Creed, Nickel Back, and 50 cent ae the equivolent of genius.

No one is questioning that there are plenty of talented bands out right now, but what is in the norm right now, what is on MTV, or your local radio station... isn't.

Argue all you want, I lose brain cells everytime I turn on MTV.[/QUOTE]

What the hell are you even talking about?

Illmatic 02-16-2005 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=sublime420]Yes, because Linkin Park, Creed, Nickel Back, and 50 cent ae the equivolent of genius.

No one is questioning that there are plenty of talented bands out right now, but what is in the norm right now, what is on MTV, or your local radio station... isn't.

Argue all you want, I lose brain cells everytime I turn on MTV.[/QUOTE]

Right, because all the popular bands in the 70's were good, right?

The Osmonds, The Eagles, disco, KISS...that was good sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t, man! :rolleyes:

sublime420 02-16-2005 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Wait, I thought it was "commonly true" that many people prefer classic rock. If most of them listen to Ja Rule, then it is not very common.[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize that common was held to your typical 14 year old.

lunch998 02-16-2005 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]Right, because all the popular bands in the 70's were good, right?

The Osmonds, The Eagles, disco, KISS...that was good sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t, man! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Wow, first Led Zeppelin is the best band ever, and now all mainstream music today sucks. I've never heard this arguments before.

Illmatic 02-16-2005 02:49 PM

This kid is truly breaking ground and thinking creatively.

sublime420 02-16-2005 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]Right, because all the popular bands in the 70's were good, right?

The Osmonds, The Eagles, disco, KISS...that was good sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t, man! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

You just picked the worst bands of that era. And you know what, the funny part is... they are all still better than your average pop group today. :lol:

Illmatic 02-16-2005 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=sublime420]You just picked the worst bands of that era. And you know what, the funny part is... they are all still better than your average pop group today. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I. interestingly enough, they were also among the most popular bands of that era.
Ia. My point is that the mainstream always sucks
II. You picked the worst artists of today's era.

You truly are stupid.

Illmatic 02-16-2005 02:59 PM

I'm willing to bet that this sublime420 kid also thinks that all rap is "money cash hoes blingbling and cars".

CaptainWaits 02-16-2005 03:05 PM

Just went through my dads record collection, and he has a lot of wicked stuff he listened to back in his day

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]I'm willing to bet that this sublime420 kid also thinks that all rap is "money cash hoes blingbling and cars".[/QUOTE]

Wait, it isn't?

Illmatic 02-16-2005 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Wait, it isn't?[/QUOTE]

I hope that's sarcasm.

Jam2Me 02-16-2005 03:10 PM

okayplayer.com is the source for good hip-hop.

thickasabrick 02-16-2005 03:11 PM

So umm....no one knows what The Weight is about?

I just find it intriguing because he makes so many references to different conversations and people. Like Anna Lee and Crazy Chester and other such people. Surely there is some sort of meaning behind this song.

And don't argue with every n00b that comes in here...it wastes pages and then we have to read through like five pages of crap just to reply to a decent post. I understand it's very annoying, but he's right, you could have just ignored him. That's what I'm trying to do.

Welcome to the forums by the way...if you come back.

Broken Arrow 02-16-2005 03:12 PM

Wow, this guy just won't leave will he?

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]I hope that's sarcasm.[/QUOTE]

Yea.

Broken Arrow 02-16-2005 03:13 PM

I always thought the Weight was about being asked to do a favour then going out to do it then all these people along the way ask you to do them favours too. All the favours eventually build "The Weight"?

magicbus 02-16-2005 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]So umm....no one knows what The Weight is about?

I just find it intriguing because he makes so many references to different conversations and people. Like Anna Lee and Crazy Chester and other such people. Surely there is some sort of meaning behind this song.

And don't argue with every n00b that comes in here...it wastes pages and then we have to read through like five pages of crap just to reply to a decent post. I understand it's very annoying, but he's right, you could have just ignored him. That's what I'm trying to do.

Welcome to the forums by the way...if you come back.[/QUOTE]

It might be a biblical reference? The first verse seems like that story where Jesus is born. They arrive in Narazeth and need a place to stay, but the guy doesn't have any room, so they stay in a manger.

EDIT: Scratch that. Robertson was talking about Nazareth, PA. Here's an article about what it means:
[url]http://theband.hiof.no/articles/the_weight_viney.html[/url]

Illmatic 02-16-2005 03:15 PM

I always assumed that "The Weight" was like "Subterranean Homesick Blues"...it kind of tells a story, but it doesn't make much sense.

Jam2Me 02-16-2005 03:15 PM

This tells the story of a guy who visits Nazareth, and is asked by his friend Annie to visit several of her friends. "The Weight" that is his load are all these strange people he promised he would check on.
The Band's guitarist, Robbie Robertson, claims this was influenced by the work of Luis Bunuel, a Mexican director who made some of the first movies dealing with surrealism. Robertson was intrigued by the characters in his films, who were often good people who did bad things.
Robbie Robertson got the only writing credit for this, although other members of the group claimed that they contributed to this as well as many of their other songs and were not credited. Since only the writer receives royalties for a song, this created a great deal of tension in The Band.
The vocals are shared by Richard Manuel, Rick Danko, and Levon Helm.
Nazareth, where the story takes place, refers to the town in Pennsylvania about 70 miles north of Philadelphia. The rock group Nazareth got their name from this line ("Went down to Nazareth, I was feeling about half past dead..."). In the liner notes for the Across the Great Divide box set, Robbie is quoted as saying that he chose that place because they make legendary Martin Guitars there, so he was aware of the place and been there once or twice. The only reason I know all of this is because I grew up in that area, and found it cool that little Nazareth, PA was mentioned in SUCH an influential song. (thanks, Jared - Meadville, PA)
The characters in the song - Crazy Chester, Luke, Anna Lee, are based on friends of the band.
This was never a big hit, but it became a Classic Rock staple.
This was used in the movie Easy Rider. The Band performed the version heard in the movie, but on the soundtrack, a different group was used because of legal issues.
The Supremes, The Temptations, Aretha Franklin, and Jackie DeShannon all covered this. Franklin's version was the biggest hit, reaching #19 US in 1969. It has also been covered by: A Group Called Smith, The Black Crowes, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead, The Allman Brothers, Joan Osborne, Keller Williams, King Curtis & Duane Allman, Otis & Travis, Rotary Connection, Spooky Tooth, and The Ventures. (thanks, monica - grapeville, PA)
The album title came from the big pink house in upstate New York they rented and recorded in. The Band was Bob Dylan's backup band, and they moved there to be near Dylan while he was recovering from a motorcycle accident. Dylan offered to help with this album, but The Band refused because they wanted to make a mark on their own.


That'll do for now I guess..

thickasabrick 02-16-2005 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]I always thought the Weight was about being asked to do a favour then going out to do it then all these people along the way ask you to do them favours too. All the favours eventually build "The Weight"?[/QUOTE]

That's actually a pretty good explanation. He does end up doing a lot of people favours in the song, well actually I can only think of two, but I'm sure there's more.

Jam2Me, you deserve some rep for that post.

And I'm sure Subterranean Homesick Blues makes sense in Bob Dylans mind...or at least it did.

edit- I gotta spread some rep around first...

magicbus 02-16-2005 03:19 PM

Read this! [url]http://theband.hiof.no/articles/the_weight_viney.html[/url]

IAJP 02-16-2005 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]I. I was clearly making a generalization, but what I say is "commonly true": most of the kids who get into classic rock like Led Zeppelin and maybe three or four other bands
II. Listen pal, just cause I went off on you because you generally acted stupid doesn't mean I'm close-minded. I'm 100% sure I like more music than you do.[/QUOTE]
I'm only 15 and I can name easily over 10 bands I like equally, or more, than Zeppelin :)

Illmatic 02-16-2005 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]I'm only 15 and I can name easily over 10 bands I like equally, or more, than Zeppelin :)[/QUOTE]

I know. There are clearly exceptions to every rule, of course.

thickasabrick 02-16-2005 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]Read this! [url]http://theband.hiof.no/articles/the_weight_viney.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Awesome site! Interesting stuff. It also explained the characters I mentioned.

IAJP 02-16-2005 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]I know. There are clearly exceptions to every rule, of course.[/QUOTE]
:cool: Yay I'm an exception,
but seriously, I'll be honest, I started out a complete Zeppelin fanboy, but my musical tastes have broadened out a lot.

Illmatic 02-16-2005 03:27 PM

Well, I could tell, based on your screenname :lol:

I used to be the same way...even though I got into rap first (which is really wierd when you think of it).

thickasabrick 02-16-2005 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]:cool: Yay I'm an exception,
but seriously, I'll be honest, I started out a complete Zeppelin fanboy, but my musical tastes have broadened out a lot.[/QUOTE]

Me too. Actually, I was an AC/DC fanboy before I was a Zeppelin fanboy. Now I'm kinda just spread out over many bands and genres.

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:32 PM

I was a Zeppelin fanboy.

IAJP 02-16-2005 03:32 PM

Disconection:
I know I want it changing to just "[I]IAJP[/I]" :upset:

Thickasabrick:
I feel an idea coming on, but I'll only go ahead with it if a few people will,
try and name as many bands that you like more/the same as your base band, for you AC/DC for me Zepp etc.
Sound good?

Distant Echoes 02-16-2005 03:32 PM

I think about half the people on this forumthat were born '85 onwards probably started as fanboys of either Zeppelin, AC/DC, Aerosmith, or GNR.

I know i was one for Zeppelin, but i never really got into AC/DC as much, and im still looking for a good aerosmith CD

Broken Arrow 02-16-2005 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Me too. Actually, I was an AC/DC fanboy before I was a Zeppelin fanboy. Now I'm kinda just spread out over many bands and genres.[/QUOTE]
I got High Voltage and Zeppelin II on the same day. I'm both.

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Disconection:
I know I want it changing to just "[I]IAJP[/I]" :upset:

Thickasabrick:
I feel an idea coming on, but I'll only go ahead with it if a few people will,
try and name as many bands that you like more/the same as your base band, for you AC/DC for me Zepp etc.
Sound good?[/QUOTE]

Go for it.

Freddie9 02-16-2005 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]I think about half the people on this forumthat were born '85 onwards probably started as fanboys of either Zeppelin, AC/DC, Aerosmith, or GNR.

I know i was one for Zeppelin, but i never really got into AC/DC as much, and im still looking for a good aerosmith CD[/QUOTE]
yeah. i just got the complete studio recordings of zep for x-mas. I'm not that fond of Aerosmith, probably because of steven tyler

IAJP 02-16-2005 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]I was a Zeppelin fanboy.[/QUOTE]
I think, you, me and JPJ were the biggest Zepp fanboys.
I'd allways talk about them, one of the only things I find fresh about them when I listen now is the rhythm section of Bonham and Jones, there are a lot better guitarists and vocalists out there than Page and Plant,
ah musical tastes *sighs*

jpj 02-16-2005 03:35 PM

God, I was such a fanboy :(

But that changed soon after I joined mx :)

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=Freddie9]yeah. i just got the complete studio recordings of zep for x-mas. I'm not that fond of Aerosmith, probably because of steven tyler[/QUOTE]

I got that same thing.

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]God, I was such a fanboy :(

But that changed soon after I joined mx :)[/QUOTE]

Your name always reminds us though. :p

jpj 02-16-2005 03:37 PM

I quite enjoy early Aerosmith (Rocks, Toys in the Attic).

Lunch: :(

lunch998 02-16-2005 03:37 PM

Now that I think about it, there are very few bands I actually enjoy listening to consistently more than Zeppelin.

jpj 02-16-2005 03:38 PM

Pink Floyd and Mule I could listen to as much as Zeppelin.


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