you really should check out Monteverde though, it's an amazing place, there's so much nature and beauty going on there... It's probably about a 4 hour ride from the shore though, it's pretty hard to get too...

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch8]you really should check out Monteverde though, it's an amazing place, there's so much nature and beauty going on there... It's probably about a 4 hour ride from the shore though, it's pretty hard to get too...[/QUOTE]


I hear that. Costa has never ceased to amaze me as far as nature and beauty. The monkey bridges just blow me away when I see them being used. Everywhere I've been.. it's like walk 5 mins in a given direction and you're in the middle of a tropical forest.


Messin with the army ants while high has to be one of the funnest things. Crazy how they make the paths through the forests. I'd say also the parrot drinking beer in Jaco, the monkey throwing fruit in Tamorindo and the crazy snapping turtles that appeared in our rooms in dominical.

We bring a lot of t-shirts, paper, pens, etc.. smaller towns we'll just open a box up and start handing stuff out to kids.

Amazing place. Go for the surf. Stay for the culture. Happiest place on earth.

Oh, god yea, I love it...

I've thought about moving there when I'm older...

But Jaco is a pretty toursity place, it's where all the spring-breakers go...

high im 13 my name is josh and im very late joining this forum. im a beast at wrestling and if you say anything anoyying i will pin you through your monitor. ive been drumming for 1 1/2 years

[QUOTE=Josiah]Pinstripe makes a great batter head on the kick.[/QUOTE]
They do for sure, one of the rare instances a pin can sound good in!

pff, i quite like the clear headed pinstripes, a nice dull sound. theres nothing wrong with them at all :(

[QUOTE=drumaster]high im 13 my name is josh and im very late joining this forum. im a beast at wrestling and if you say anything anoyying i will pin you through your monitor. ive been drumming for 1 1/2 years[/QUOTE]
How long have you been wrestling?

I'm decent at it.

:chug:

[QUOTE=styler]pff, i quite like the clear headed pinstripes, a nice dull sound. theres nothing wrong with them at all :([/QUOTE]
A dull sound for dull drummers.

this is my first year, but i stilll own most everyone on my team.

how long u been wrestling?

I do MMA.

Been doing it for 3 months now, not much. But I did karate when I was 7-10, and I've always been one of the better grapplers that I've fought (friendly competitions :p).

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]A dull sound for dull drummers.[/QUOTE]
thats a complete generalisation, and an ugly one at that jim.

[QUOTE]thats a complete generalisation, and an ugly one at that jim.[/QUOTE]Pencil sharpener?

And there goes my stars :lol:

eh?


im so confused.

the lessons mod thread is closed, anybody have any idea who the mod is?

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch8]Oh, god yea, I love it...

I've thought about moving there when I'm older...

But Jaco is a pretty toursity place, it's where all the spring-breakers go...[/QUOTE]


Ah not been there during that time. The surf spots are a bit outside of town, Hermosa for instance.. hour walk south down the road. Or Jaco's an hour north walk up the road depending on how you look at that.

If you're ever there, go to hermosa, there is a small blue painted motel place, only a couple rooms. Great place, serves breakfest in the morning, igauna's will wonder into your room.. as will sapping turtles!

Thing about hermosa... black sand beach! So flippin hot on the feet. Amazing surfing though. They got the stadium lights on the beach to surf at night.

Vans has their Air Show there.

[QUOTE=styler]thats a complete generalisation, and an ugly one at that jim.[/QUOTE]
Really? It's a generalisation thats it's a thick head and sounds horrible? I have pinstripes on the double headed toms at the moment, people have seen them on here on my kit so no i'm not making it up. I've had them on there for awhile beleive me they are horrible. Anyone who's played decent heads will say the same. They are dynamicly limititing in so many ways. I don't mind em for practice but it's really hard to enjoy the sounds they make when you've heard something nice like an amb or even a G1!

I never justify a purchase I make, I was a moron and bought pinstripes because they were cheap, just like I was a moron for buying aquarian PII's for the kick drum batters. I went against my own advice when you look at heads you have to remember one simple thing thats always true. You can always add muffling IF you want it, any head thats thicker or has anything on it more then one ply is a muffling head or a gimmick.

[QUOTE=faith+1]Pencil sharpener?

And there goes my stars :lol:[/QUOTE]

I notcied that your user title is set to the default when un-banned or w/e.... what happened man?

I have to buy that shirt DBJ!

that doesnt change that it was a horrible generalisation..whether you like them or not doesnt mean there a bad head. if someone knows his drum heads and likes them, does that make him a horrible drummer?cuz he has a different choice than you? chances are he would respect your decision. it would be horribly rude and close minded if you didnt respect his.

i think stars are gone...jim doesnt have 5 stars now, it just says admin....yay!

scratch that, der meister still has stars (sorry if i spelled it wrong)

BB, rockindrummer, josiah, and faith all lost there stars though. wierd

Well most of the people don't know the possibilty you can have with a drum, would buddy rich tell you that "thudy thud thud thudarooni" is a good sound? Of course not, the drums are an instrument that can have MANY voices... if you allow yourself to speak them.

If not then have fun thuddin!

[QUOTE]I notcied that your user title is set to the default when un-banned or w/e.... what happened man?[/QUOTE] I have absolutely no idea.

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]Well most of the people don't know the possibilty you can have with a drum, would buddy rich tell you that "thudy thud thud thudarooni" is a good sound? Of course not, the drums are an instrument that can have MANY voices... if you allow yourself to speak them.

If not then have fun thuddin![/QUOTE]
thats exactly it. and the thud is one of those voices, and its the drummers choice whether thats the voice he wants too have. buddy rich is his own drummer, he chose the heads he wanted to use to voice his drums. we respect, and even use his choice as a reference, but that doesnt make his choice universal.

Look at steve gadd the pinstripe master! Even he is using thinner heads nowadays.

Portnoys another famous name I can think of too, he no longer uses thuddys and switched to clear emps!

Woah Styler vs Jim o_O

Eh.....Boring day.Im eating cup ramen.Yum.

that doesnt make them better, they changed there voice. that happens over time, i bet there setups have changed too, as well as there playing, i bet theyve even changed there personalities a good bit. that doesnt mean one is right or wrong.

also just because there famous doesnt mean there right or wrong. there not better than anyone because there famous, there opinion isnt better than anyone elses.

[QUOTE=styler]thats exactly it. and the thud is one of those voices, and its the drummers choice whether thats the voice he wants too have. buddy rich is his own drummer, he chose the heads he wanted to use to voice his drums. we respect, and even use his choice as a reference, but that doesnt make his choice universal.[/QUOTE]


Yes, that's a valid point. However if one chooses to make "thud" his sound. Then that person might as well buy an export and call it even.


Jim's (I think) point is. When you have a well made drum, it's made to sing out. It's made to be a drum. It's made to go.. Dooooon.

If you want that thud drum, that's cool. No sense wasting time, money, good drums and so forth on it though.

By using a pinstripe head you are taking AWAY from the drums sound.

[QUOTE=RyanTheDrummer]Woah Styler vs Jim o_O

Eh.....Boring day.Im eating cup ramen.Yum.[/QUOTE]


Ramen=1337 like a beat.

or something

[QUOTE=styler]that doesnt make them better, they changed there voice. that happens over time, i bet there setups have changed too, as well as there playing, i bet theyve even changed there personalities a good bit. that doesnt mean one is right or wrong.

also just because there famous doesnt mean there right or wrong. there not better than anyone because there famous, there opinion isnt better than anyone elses.[/QUOTE]
Gadd hasnt changed his style in 30 years, portnoy has changed a bit either.

[QUOTE=Josiah]Yes, that's a valid point. However if one chooses to make "thud" his sound. Then that person might as well buy an export and call it even.
[/QUOTE]
Exactly, thats like buying a sonor delight and tossing hydros on it, get a CB 700 tune it the same and you wouldnt tell a difference.

My friend export sounds nice! Put coated Emps over clear ambs. I was surprised!

josiah:
thats not the point im making, if the person who bought it wanted that sound, who are we to say there wrong. who are we to say that the noise you described is the sound of a drum, drums can make a million different sounds, none of them are specifically right or wrong.

jim:
theyve still grown as drummers and people though, they changed there voice, and it was there choice to change it.

faith:
i dont much mind the sound of my teachers old export, his bass drum is amazing.

[QUOTE=styler]drums can make a million different sounds, none of them are specifically right or wrong.[/QUOTE]
They sure can, but they will only make one sound with a hydro or pin.

but the point im making, is if thats the sound they want to make, who are we to tell them otherwise.

Well we play the odd's here..


Odd's are that somebody doesn't know the potential their drums hold and short change themselves by purchasing "pre muffled" type heads.

im talking past that, if a seasoned drummer likes pinstripes, hydros, or a two ply head, who are we to tell them "dont buy that, it sucks"

if your going to make a purchase, it should be an intelligent purchase and you should know exactly what you want.

and if theyve done the research, and they chose pinstripes (example)
who are we to tell them to take it back, or to tell them its bad.

Just let drummers do what they want.
They'll learn and make mistakes...it's all part of learning :thumb:

bam!

you need to go on msn more by the way ryan.

[QUOTE=styler]im talking past that, if a seasoned drummer likes pinstripes, hydros, or a two ply head, who are we to tell them "dont buy that, it sucks"

if your going to make a purchase, it should be an intelligent purchase and you should know exactly what you want.
[/QUOTE]


Bingo.

And such people don't ask on internet forums. So we can safely assume they aren't in the questioning audience.

Back in 2002 I came on here and was recommended Hydros :-/

i wasnt really talking about people on here, just any drummer in general. if they like a sound, it should be there choice to have it as a voice of there drums or not.

saying that something sucks is different from recommending against it. and that's how you weed out the ones who know what they're talking about, and the one's who are just following what someone with a higher post count says.

if you ask someone who knows anything, they'll say "instead of getting hydro's, look into ambs/emps/g1's/etc."

if you ask someone who doesn't know a thing about tuning, they'll say "hydros suck. they sound so bad."

see the difference between the two?

It's all about personal preference....
Are you on msn now Styler? :amaze:
I im you but you never respond :'(