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Schecterguitarist 07-15-2005 03:00 PM

I think metallica may make another album like St. Anger. I honestly think that would be cool cuz id like to see what other grungey drop c riffs they can come up with. I honestly dont want them to come up with another album like MOP or AJFA becuz they went down that path for 10 years and they hav done it already. I say that they should become new and inventive and continue creating and make nu metal an actually decent type of music

Huber 07-15-2005 03:04 PM

St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...

It was a new breed of thrash.

Also:

Nu-metal is more than just decent music already...

Schecterguitarist 07-15-2005 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...

It was a new breed of thrash.

Also:

Nu-metal is more than just decent music already...[/QUOTE]


yah i ges, but i'd still rather see them make another album like St.Anger cuz that old school thrash has been done and to unfortunatly quote Lars on this "metal is dead". Not the most briliant thing to say on his part but i want them to be new and inventive.........except as a lead guitarist they HAVE to put the solos back in atleast 2 or 3 songs instead of none

hethamulburton 07-15-2005 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=Schecterguitarist]yah i ges, but i'd still rather see them make another album like St.Anger cuz that old school thrash has been done and to unfortunatly quote Lars on this "metal is dead". Not the most briliant thing to say on his part but i want them to be new and inventive.........except as a lead guitarist they HAVE to put the solos back in atleast 2 or 3 songs instead of none[/QUOTE]

I agree with the solos thing. But that being a new breed of thrash, no. Maybe a new breed of Heavier dropped metal metal, but it's not thrash and doesn't fit into extreme. So it can go under unique wave of heavy metal, or something.

PepsiMetal 07-15-2005 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...[/QUOTE]

I hate when people say st. anger is nu-metal. They don't even know the definition of new metal and they classify any music they dislike as nu-metal.

I think st. anger is also kinda like speed/thrash fused together.

Chu 07-15-2005 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]What question is this? let's see...

I hear all the way up except the mid is all the way off. also i agree with the guy about recording, do light distortion and clone/copy a lot for the real trashy sound[/QUOTE]
Just wanna know the correct fingering for Seek & Destroy solo :p

In the mean time, I have been working on Ride The Lightning... How can you say Burton just follows the guitar? :x
This song would(n't) work without the bass.. Ok, but wouldn't be as good :p

Edit:
[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]I think st. anger is also kinda like speed/thrash fused together.[/QUOTE]
Definately, it has better, faster riffs then anything since Black album (Maybe I'm missing something.. I know Black album has a few fast song, Through The Never for example) it was just the tuning and drum sound which threw it out a bit.

Maybe I'm the only one, but I believe that St. Anger was actually closer to their original sound (Ok, the sound they 'defined' i.e. Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and a bit of ...AJFA, but that's really in its own league) then either of their previous 3 releases (Not including Live albums or Cover albums, obviously)...

Agitator01 07-15-2005 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=brettberry]What the ****ing Hell!!!! who did a god **** mother ****ing hip hop tribute to Metallica? Tell me so I can assassinate them![/QUOTE]

Well it does not nessasarilly mean the album sounds hip-Hop, it means that the bands covering metallica are hip-Hop bands...

hethamulburton 07-15-2005 06:00 PM

Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.

Chu 07-15-2005 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=hethamulburton]Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.[/QUOTE]
Ignore this question :p

heavy metal kid 07-15-2005 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=hethamulburton]Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.[/QUOTE]

well, many hip-hop people like rock-metal bands, The beastie Boys, Cypress Hill and Body Count(Rap-metal)are good examples.

ups, sorry Chu.

thelittledrummerboy 07-15-2005 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]no guitar solos.....that was the biggest dissapointment, but i still enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]


My Friend went and saw them when they came to Sydney last Year. He said the did 4 songs off St Anger, Fuel and the rest was from the Black album back. He also said that the songs off St Anger had solo's added to them.

Maybe thats an indication that they wern't pleased with not putting solo's on the record and will do it for the up - coming album. I don't know :confused:

hethamulburton 07-15-2005 07:05 PM

That was Lars who said no solos on album. Then he saw how big a mistake that was apparently.

thelittledrummerboy 07-15-2005 07:15 PM

Yeah there was an arguement on skom between he and Kirk wasen't there?

Bazarov 07-15-2005 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=thelittledrummerboy]Yeah there was an arguement on skom between he and Kirk wasen't there?[/QUOTE]

From what I understood from the movie, there was an argument between Kirk and Lars throughout the whole album because Lars wanted no solos on any songs because solos are "classic"

hethamulburton 07-15-2005 08:35 PM

Solos make songs classic, in a good way.

mr black 07-15-2005 09:00 PM

Oh dear lord, i thought we settled the constant crying over no solo's a long time ago! :smash:

hethamulburton 07-15-2005 09:03 PM

Obviously, everyone that came to an agreement, is not present.

roulette dares 3 07-15-2005 11:55 PM

Does anyone know of a poem that would match the lyrics of fade to black...suicide from loss etc? It would be great to get a response.

MAthiAS 07-16-2005 01:21 AM

Do any members of Metallica train martial arts?

Apocalyptic Raids 07-16-2005 01:27 AM

Don't they play some of the St. Anger songs with solos live anyway?

Mathias: wtf why? :p

Hells Bells 07-16-2005 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]i liked metallica's older stuff better than there new (who doesn't?), but my favorite song out of all would be master of puppets.

i like how it goes from there normal stuff in that song, to nice and soft and slow, then to unique solo's

i also like enter sandman, its a preety well balanced song.

lets try to keep this thread alive[/QUOTE]


Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger? still an aweomse band though. would be even better if theyt didn't sell out. Wwell, with that out of the way , I definitely like hte stuff from Metallica's thrash era...aka Kill Em all, Ride the lightening, and puuppets.

DisposableHeroes 07-16-2005 02:55 AM

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger? [/QUOTE]

I do..kind of :p some songs are quite good, the others not so good..the production lets it down big time IMO

Huber 07-16-2005 03:33 AM

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger? still an aweomse band though. [b]would be even better if theyt didn't sell out[/b]. Wwell, with that out of the way , I definitely like hte stuff from Metallica's thrash era...aka Kill Em all, Ride the lightening, and puuppets.[/QUOTE]

It'd be great if that was kept out of the thread. It will just start arguments about 50-100 pages long.

kill_em_all 07-16-2005 04:29 AM

Are there any metallica friends from aus here that can sing like hetfield and wouldnt mind coming to newcastle to join a band

hammet_ownz 07-16-2005 05:18 AM

no one can crunch like hetfield. love to help though man

Six Foot Revolver 07-16-2005 05:22 AM

Guess what Metallica song I am listening to :)

metalcritter666 07-16-2005 05:31 AM

Newcastle where?

EDIT: oh right, australia :-/

hammet_ownz 07-16-2005 05:38 AM

dyers eve. i ****ing love that song and its double kick

kill_em_all 07-16-2005 05:47 AM

Newcaslte, australia

hammet_ownz 07-16-2005 05:51 AM

im too far away for you mate, im in tassie. id love to help though, i play a bit of rythym guitar as well. too bad theres what, 3000 klicks between?

kill_em_all 07-16-2005 06:03 AM

Na thats kool. atleast i no there are still aussie guitarist who are metallica fans.

roulette dares 3 07-16-2005 06:18 AM

i agree i dont know many guitarists who are metallica fansin aus (i live in WA) anymore. i'm probably the only one out of my friends that attempt to play metallica solos, but ive only recently got into metallica after listening to fade to black.i learnt the solo to that and "one" because its got a really cool tap.

Chu 07-16-2005 07:04 AM

[QUOTE=kill_em_all]Are there any metallica friends from aus here that can sing like hetfield and wouldnt mind coming to newcastle to join a band[/QUOTE]
Canberra here :cool:
I can sing, play a bit of bass and some rhythm, I'm trying to learn some solos now, but i'm having some trouble.

Kirk's Puppet 07-16-2005 08:35 AM

Funny how people call Metallica sell-outs.

I write songs. I wrote a pop punk song 2 years ago, then I wrote a nu-metal song a bit after that. Last year, I started writing heavy metal songs. Recently, I'm writing ballads. These are all because of my exposure to more music. From pop punk to heavy metal to jazz and classic pop. Does that make me a sell-out?

Metallica started as 4 young kids who loved metal. They wrote really heavy thrash metal, then started to include their Hendrix/etc. influences in their songs, they turned more progressive. James is a big country fan, so he wrote really soft songs on Load/Reload. The band got into the raw nu-metal sound, so they wrote St. Anger.

Does that make them sell-outs? Rich people don't need to sell-out.

Jev 07-16-2005 08:49 AM

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)[/QUOTE]
Well the first 5 albums are filled with decent songs.

Joe 07-16-2005 09:38 AM

[QUOTE=Kirk's Puppet]Funny how people call Metallica sell-outs.

I write songs. I wrote a pop punk song 2 years ago, then I wrote a nu-metal song a bit after that. Last year, I started writing heavy metal songs. Recently, I'm writing ballads. These are all because of my exposure to more music. From pop punk to heavy metal to jazz and classic pop. Does that make me a sell-out?

Metallica started as 4 young kids who loved metal. They wrote really heavy thrash metal, then started to include their Hendrix/etc. influences in their songs, they turned more progressive. James is a big country fan, so he wrote really soft songs on Load/Reload. The band got into the raw nu-metal sound, so they wrote St. Anger.

Does that make them sell-outs? Rich people don't need to sell-out.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I've gone from pop to rock to heavy metal to hard rock. It doesn't make them sell-outs. I think a lot of the stuff they do is "just because they can" because they were fuor young guys (like this war video game they're thinking about. they'd do it just because they can and guys (as a whole) like war video games)

[QUOTE]Well the first 5 albums are filled with decent songs.[/QUOTE]

and at least half of the rest of the albums are good

:lol: i've answered that post like five times

DaveTheAmazing 07-16-2005 10:02 AM

I'm very fond of the songs on load/reload that are country :)

DisposableHeroes 07-16-2005 10:37 AM

In Cliff's last interview before he died he had said that Metallica would be experimenting with softer sounds. So it annoys me when people say stuff like "they went whimpy after Cliff died" or "they wouldnt be like this if Cliff was still around". Cliff was the one introducing all the new sounds

Schecterguitarist 07-16-2005 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]it annoys me when people say stuff like "they went whimpy after Cliff died" or "they wouldnt be like this if Cliff was still around". Cliff was the one introducing all the new sounds[/QUOTE]

I agree, just because you dont play ridiculousy fast and insane doesnt mean that youre a poor band. Some of their greatest songs are the ballads like Fade to Black which isnt fast for rythm guitar at all. The Unforgiven is a great ballad which is also a very simple song for lead guitar. the 2nd unforgiven was even better and still showed that soft ballads are indeed apart of metal and rock. I think that by going soft it showed how diverse they could be and not whimpy

Schecterguitarist 07-16-2005 11:33 AM

dont forget to vote for Cliff in the 100 best bassists poll!!!


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