[QUOTE=Steerpike]It's considered [i]the[/i] definitive Holocaust d0cumentary. 85% of it is historical photographs and film. The Nazis were meticulous record keepers, so when the Allies liberated the camps, they found volumes of photographs and film stock used to d0cument the goings-on of the concetration camps for the sake of efficiency and progress.

The only modern footage used is long dolly shots of the scene of Auschwitz as of 1958, lying in ruins.

The images, though... Words fail me. I'm dead serious.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that seems like it really affected you greatly. For my english class we're going to watch a movie called [I]Conspiracy[/I] and I heard that it's going to be pretty intense and rough for Jewish kids. I hate watching movies about the Holocaust because I just can't stand to see people being treated like that.

Would you mind explaining what images you saw, or is it too fresh on your mind to describe?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]It's considered [i]the[/i] definitive Holocaust d0cumentary. 85% of it is historical photographs and film. The Nazis were meticulous record keepers, so when the Allies liberated the camps, they found volumes of photographs and film stock used to d0cument the goings-on of the concetration camps for the sake of efficiency and progress.

The only modern footage used is long dolly shots of the scene of Auschwitz as of 1958, lying in ruins.

The images, though... Words fail me. I'm dead serious.[/QUOTE]
I think I've seen that before. I watched a film like you described when I did Year 12 Modern History at school. I didn't find out the name of it, but it similar to what you describe.

It had a lot of video the Allies filmed while liberating some of the smaller camps from what I remember.

I can describe them, because they're not going to leave me anytime soon.

I'll spare you the details, suffice to say that many of the people starved to death, wasted away. They died with their eyes wide open. Most of the time, it was difficult to tell apart the Jews from the Gypsys. They all looked like the same skeletons.

The Nazis kept all the personal effects in warehouses. An entire warehouse housed a mountain of women's hair. It was woven into rolls of fabric.

The hospital at the camp was anything but. Most of the images the director used were of the empty rooms. Dying prisoners were turned into guinea pigs for doctors hired by chemical companies. Surgeons used patients, alive or dead, for experimental dissections. Bandages were nothing but paper, a superficial thing to placate those who brought their dying friends in.

A dolly shot through what was left of the crematorium showed the gas chamber. You could see gouges in the concrete where prisoners tried desperately to claw their way out to escape.

In a way, it's kind of cathartic getting this out of my system. But still, I've never been hit this hard by a movie before.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]It's considered [i]the[/i] definitive Holocaust d0cumentary. 85% of it is historical photographs and film. The Nazis were meticulous record keepers, so when the Allies liberated the camps, they found volumes of photographs and film stock used to d0cument the goings-on of the concetration camps for the sake of efficiency and progress.

The only modern footage used is long dolly shots of the scene of Auschwitz as of 1958, lying in ruins.

The images, though... Words fail me. I'm dead serious.[/QUOTE]
Looking at actual footage of the Holocaust is very difficult. I remember my eight grade trip several years ago, we went to Washington DC. Towards the end we went to the Holocaust Museum, and...wow. Some of it made me scared out of my mind and other parts made me want to throw up. all I really remember is wanting to get out of there as soon as possible.

The sickening part is the fact that we are capable of doing that to one another.

[QUOTE=Toaster]The sickening part is the fact that we are capable of doing that to one another.[/QUOTE]
And that it actually happened.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]I think I've seen that before. I watched a film like you described when I did Year 12 Modern History at school. I didn't find out the name of it, but it similar to what you describe.

It had a lot of video the Allies filmed while liberating some of the smaller camps from what I remember.[/QUOTE]

Different movie. The shots of the Allied soldiers in Night and Fog lasts only about a minute and a half. Most of it is devoted to revealing in gruesome detail the workings of the camp from the moment its gates opened to the final days of the war.

Yeah I googled Night And Fog and I would have watched something else.

but still... :-\

[url]http://70.85.81.229/2897/89/upload/p1851686.jpg[/url]
made it for another forum, convinient nonetheless

Grrrrr, I can't believe I have to write a 10 page style writing analysis on the worst book ever written by a human being. Worse yet, I didn't even read the entire book, so it's time to do a little BSing.

T-8 posts and counting

Kind of late, but yeah, it's one giant song that's broken up into four movements, as Shattered_Future said. The first movement in particular is outstanding.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Grrrrr, I can't believe I have to write a 10 page style writing analysis on the worst book ever written by a human being. Worse yet, I didn't even read the entire book, so it's time to do a little BSing.

T-8 posts and counting[/QUOTE]

T-whore.

:p Congrats. Maybe if I posted a little bit more, I would be there too, haha...

Just got back from band practice, and my rythym guitarist, Dean, who acts like a giant douche at times, decided to record all of the rythms, including my parts on the EP. I heard all the tracks, and he plays my parts incredibly wrong. He played an entire song I wrote wrong as hell too. And I'm pissed off about it, so I'm going to go in and do a little rerecording this week behind his back, hah...by the way, the reason he's decided to do all my parts except for leads is because another local band is doing an album and for some reason he thinks we're in a race right now to get it out before them, which is stupid, because a) it's not a fricken' competition and b) haste leads to sloppiness. ...and we tried out a lead vocalist today. Cool guy, great voice. Think he's a keeper.

Trev, you disappoint me. Don't do the right thing, go in there and start cracking some skulls!

I wish my post count was lower. :(

T-7 posts and counting

You should tell him that you'd like to do them over. At least your parts. I guess that for equality in the band and all that jazz.

ITT: We'll experience 10,000 posts by ShadowsFallen. :eek:

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Trev, you disappoint me. Don't do the right thing, go in there and start cracking some skulls!

I wish my post count was lower. :(

T-7 posts and counting[/QUOTE]

Man, I tell ya..I mean, the song he recorded that I myself wrote, I wouldn't have a problem with him recording that if I were there to tell him he was doing something wrong and here's how you play it, ya know? But obviously he is headstrong, so I gotta do things the hard way. I don't care if I spend the whole day Wednsday rerecording that, I am going to do it and it will not sound like crap once I'm done with it. I'm tired of Dean playing everything so simple and lazily...

[QUOTE] Originally Posted By [B]Ben[/B] After saying this, I feel the need to listen to manly death metal while having sex with my girlfriend.[/QUOTE]

hehe sex

[QUOTE] Orignally Posted By [B]Steerpike[/B]
I'll spare you the details, suffice to say that many of the people starved to death, wasted away. They died with their eyes wide open. Most of the time, it was difficult to tell apart the Jews from the Gypsys. They all looked like the same skeletons.

The Nazis kept all the personal effects in warehouses. An entire warehouse housed a mountain of women's hair. It was woven into rolls of fabric.

The hospital at the camp was anything but. Most of the images the director used were of the empty rooms. Dying prisoners were turned into guinea pigs for doctors hired by chemical companies. Surgeons used patients, alive or dead, for experimental dissections. Bandages were nothing but paper, a superficial thing to placate those who brought their dying friends in.

A dolly shot through what was left of the crematorium showed the gas chamber. You could see gouges in the concrete where prisoners tried desperately to claw their way out to escape.

In a way, it's kind of cathartic getting this out of my system. But still, I've never been hit this hard by a movie before.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is horrible I esepically agree with Toasters and Moses comments on that we are capable of doing that and it actaully happened.

The worst is the story of my grandmother she never told me but I remeber my Dad telling me about it. She got off the train at a death camp and she was split from her family. Thats the last she every saw of them, just like that. They were taken away, her father, mother etc. They only kept her alive I think because she could speak like 9 languages and was a nurse. Yet that didn't spare her from having her legs impaled on meat hooks and cigrattes burnt on her.

I am not Jewish myself, but I still get highly offended by the Jew jokes and the nazi stuff esepically in the BM thread.

[QUOTE=ICB]T-whore.

:p Congrats. Maybe if I posted a little bit more, I would be there too, haha...

Just got back from band practice, and my rythym guitarist, Dean, who acts like a giant douche at times, decided to record all of the rythms, including my parts on the EP. I heard all the tracks, and he plays my parts incredibly wrong. He played an entire song I wrote wrong as hell too. And I'm pissed off about it, so I'm going to go in and do a little rerecording this week behind his back, hah...by the way, the reason he's decided to do all my parts except for leads is because another local band is doing an album and for some reason he thinks we're in a race right now to get it out before them, which is stupid, because a) it's not a fricken' competition and b) haste leads to sloppiness. ...and we tried out a lead vocalist today. Cool guy, great voice. Think he's a keeper.[/QUOTE]
That's extremely lame :-\

[QUOTE=ICB]T-whore.

:p Congrats. Maybe if I posted a little bit more, I would be there too, haha...

Just got back from band practice, and my rythym guitarist, Dean, who acts like a giant douche at times, decided to record all of the rythms, including my parts on the EP. I heard all the tracks, and he plays my parts incredibly wrong. He played an entire song I wrote wrong as hell too. And I'm pissed off about it, so I'm going to go in and do a little rerecording this week behind his back, hah...by the way, the reason he's decided to do all my parts except for leads is because another local band is doing an album and for some reason he thinks we're in a race right now to get it out before them, which is stupid, because a) it's not a fricken' competition and b) haste leads to sloppiness. ...and we tried out a lead vocalist today. Cool guy, great voice. Think he's a keeper.[/QUOTE]
What a 'tard. Record his parts wrong. Go on, vengeance :p

I forsee a hiatus in the future due to "creative differences."

[QUOTE=Toaster]The sickening part is the fact that we are capable of doing that to one another.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Also, I'm thinking that it wasnt Hitler himself who did all this but people who carried his orders. If they had ALL decided that what they were ordered to do was paranoid and quit nothing would have happened. What makes people change so much at times of war?

I doubt you'll have the patience to read but it's worth trying: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment[/url]

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I wish my post count was lower[/QUOTE]

If you REALLY leave you'll be an unthankfull bastard and you'll be eternally hated. Period.

So...who watched the Oscars? I actually want to see Brokeback Mountain. Has anyone seen it? I just want to know how graphic and long the sex scenes are. I don't want to be uncomfortable for a long-*** time.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]So...who watched the Oscars? I actually want to see Brokeback Mountain. Has anyone seen it? I just want to know how graphic and long the sex scenes are. I don't want to be uncomfortable for a long-*** time.[/QUOTE]

I have seen it and think it's over rated. I even got bored at some point :-p

Anyway, as for the sex scenes there are 4 of them showing these guys in bed I think but only the first one is a bit...you know. They dont last very long and are not almost graphic at all.

[QUOTE=Jom]Kind of late, but yeah, it's one giant song that's broken up into four movements, as Shattered_Future said. The first movement in particular is outstanding.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha nice avatar man.

LETS GET A PARTY STARTED LETS GET A PARTY STARTED

She Is Beautiful She Is Beautiful

/owned by caps filter :-/

[QUOTE=Stoic]
I doubt you'll have the patience to read but it's worth trying: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment[/url] [/QUOTE]

Along similar lines, Zimbardo's experiment;

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment[/url]

[QUOTE=Deconstruction]
Anyone like the Patton Kaada album?[/QUOTE]

I do.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Along similar lines, Zimbardo's experiment;

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment[/url]
[/QUOTE]

Thank you, I didnt know about this one :)

Trev, your Rhythm player is a homo.

The new singer sounds like a good plan though...

I just got home from school,
How are you all doing round here?

NP-Demoniac-Demoniac spell.

The usual Monday feeling, tired as fook thanks to swimming.

My shoulder hurts :( I think it's from the computer.

[QUOTE=Happy]The usual Monday feeling, tired as fook thanks to swimming.

My shoulder hurts :( I think it's from the computer.[/QUOTE]
Well, you gave the other possible reason up for lent, so it must be :p

NP-Motorhead-Bomber (live)

Yeah, my wrist was hurting today and I was like "wtf I don't have a reason for this".

Out of 5 of us, 1 has already failed.