[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]Deathcore isn't really a genre. Most of the bands you mentioned could be categorized as brutal or technical metalcore. Tech metal, math metal, whatever you want to call it can sound as heavy as death metal.[/QUOTE]

Heavier in my opinion. Death metal loses a lot of heavieness through its excessive cheese, and the way some bands seem to attempt to be overly brutal. Obviously there are some awesome bands that pull it off, but for the most part a lot of death bands just serve as lullabies for me.

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]Heavier in my opinion. Death metal loses a lot of heavieness through its excessive cheese, and the way some bands seem to attempt to be overly brutal. Obviously there are some awesome bands that pull it off, but for the most part a lot of death bands just serve as lullabies for me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah death isn't my cup of tea, too much happening at once, just sounds like a jumble of noise sometimes

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]Yeah death isn't my cup of tea, too much happening at once, just sounds like a jumble of noise sometimes[/QUOTE]

I've found the only Death Metal band i can listen to is Nile...they have good structure to their music, and make it ungodly heavy without sacrificing the interest of the music.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I've found the only Death Metal band i can listen to is Nile...they have good structure to their music, and make it ungodly heavy without sacrificing the interest of the music.[/QUOTE]

I like some old Morbid Angel. I only like Nile's Egyptian stuff, the rest of it is just too hectic, and I can't stand the vocals.

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]Of course I can't cite a hardcore band that sounds like Trivium. I never said they were hardcore. But they undeniably have influences rooted in the hardcore/metalcore scene. Anyone who actually comes out and says that Trivium is a straight-up hardcore band is either deaf or mentally retarded, but to say that their music stems from some hardcore as an influence is a perfectly valid statement.[/QUOTE]

Where in f[FONT=Arial]uc[/FONT]ks name do you hear any influence from Hardcore in Trivium's music? I'm sorry but there just isn't any. If you are influenced by a band or genre you would obviously incorparate charecteristics of that genre or band's sound into your own. Trivium do not have any Hardcore in thier sound, therefore they have no Hardcore influence.

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]Heavier in my opinion. Death metal loses a lot of heavieness through its excessive cheese, and the way some bands seem to attempt to be overly brutal. Obviously there are some awesome bands that pull it off, but for the most part a lot of death bands just serve as lullabies for me.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to interupt, but could you name me a 'cheesy' death metal band?

[QUOTE=StandingStill]Sorry to interupt, but could you name me a 'cheesy' death metal band?[/QUOTE]

I find power metal to be cheesy, death metal can be over the top, sometimes the vox are "cheesy" only in that they sound so bad you can't believe they're not being used for comedic purposes.

thats not really cheesy though is it. Power metal is cheesy, death isnt.

The lyrics to alot of gore death or gore grind bands could be considered cheesy.

Well other genres aside.... let's just call Trivium metal. I heard someone say earlier in the thread that in an interview with Corey. he said Trivium's newer material would have less clean singing in the choruses and be more progressive metal. That should make for interesting although I do enjoy Trivium's choruses very much. As long as they don't make any more songs like "Dying in Your Arms" they should be fine

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]Well other genres aside.... let's just call Trivium metal. I heard someone say earlier in the thread that in an interview with Corey. he said Trivium's newer material would have less clean singing in the choruses and be more progressive metal. That should make for interesting although I do enjoy Trivium's choruses very much. As long as they don't make any more songs like "Dying in Your Arms" they should be fine[/QUOTE]

Aw...i liked the clean singing. :upset:

Progressive is good though...

i just downloaded two songs from ember to inferno, and i have to say they are quite good, the songs are Pillars Of Serpent and If I Could Collapse The Masses. If you go to lifeforce records website you can download them and a live video of them playing ember to inferno

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]Well other genres aside.... let's just call Trivium metal. I heard someone say earlier in the thread that in an interview with Corey. he said Trivium's newer material would have less clean singing in the choruses and be more progressive metal. That should make for interesting although I do enjoy Trivium's choruses very much. As long as they don't make any more songs like "Dying in Your Arms" they should be fine[/QUOTE]

i really liked dying in your arms, why dont you like it?

[QUOTE=tallicafan1]i really liked dying in your arms, why dont you like it?[/QUOTE]

Its not that I don't like it, it is a good song, the problem I have with it is it doesn't flow with the rest of Ascendancy. It is a 3:00 "pop" song amidst an album of 5+ minutes thrashing metal tracks. I'm just confused as to why they chose to include it.

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]Its not that I don't like it, it is a good song, the problem I have with it is it doesn't flow with the rest of Ascendancy. It is a 3:00 "pop" song amidst an album of 5+ minutes thrashing metal tracks. I'm just confused as to why they chose to include it.[/QUOTE]

I agree with the opinion on the pop idea of that song but does the time the song takes to be played all the way through matter because if you're going to judge on how long the song is then you would be saying that metallica's die die my darling would be a terrible song. Oh by the way Trivium are the best band around at the moment.

It's incredible how popular they are becoming so quickly. They just finished shooting a video for "A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation" down in Orlando. I can't wait to see it, but they had to use a shortened version of the song for the video. It still should be sick, I can't wait.

The Video For AGTTHOT is going to be straight up awesome. I've read about the idea of the whole video and it sounds like a keeper.

And with Dying In Your Arms, I really think it shows Triviums range as a band. It is by far the best "Radio Song" I've ever heard by a metal band.

[QUOTE=StandingStill]Sorry to interupt, but could you name me a 'cheesy' death metal band?[/QUOTE]

Well, I don't know if you include gore and grind bands under the banner of death metal too... if you do, almost all of them.

A prime example of a technical death metal/gore band is Necrophagist.

How can names like "mutilate the stillborn" or "fermented offal discharge" not strike you as cheesy.

Power metal is obviously cheesier, but death metal is pretty high up there. Gore themes just make me laugh.

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]Well, I don't know if you include gore and grind bands under the banner of death metal too... if you do, almost all of them.

A prime example of a technical death metal/gore band is Necrophagist.

How can names like "mutilate the stillborn" or "fermented offal discharge" not strike you as cheesy.

Power metal is obviously cheesier, but death metal is pretty high up there. Gore themes just make me laugh.[/QUOTE]

Think about it though...if you had a political power metal band, it wouldn't clash too well, would it?

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Think about it though...if you had a political power metal band, it wouldn't clash too well, would it?[/QUOTE]

Power metal is its own thing, just like death/gore metal. The gore metal stuff I think is stupid, but no one says ya gotta listen to it!

they may not be able to sing but who gives a **** about the singing anyway the guitars kick ***!!!

matt is an awesome singer what the hell are you talking about

could someone upload 'pull harder on the strings of your martyr' or whatever its called i've never heard trivium and my friend said i should hear some of their stuff.

[url]http://www.trivium.org/images/media/music/Trivium-PullHarderOnTheStringsOfYourMartyr.mp3[/url]

[url]http://www.roadrun.com/shared/downloads/Trivium/Trivium-LikeLightToTheFlies.mp3[/url]

hey they're pretty good, not as good as maiden though, but still pretty good

cheers :thumb:

Alright, y'alls, I'm bringing this up for two reasons:

1). This is the Trivium thread to end all Trivium threads, needless to say we don't want to see any more pointless Trivium threads popping up, eh? eh? Plus, Trivium discussion=teh secks. Just ask Kittens in Microwaves.

2). Cover band competition: If any of y'all honkey cracker bitches want to do a cover and submit it into the comp, let me know in this thread and we'll decide what song we want to do. I call dibs on 1st guitar slot. :D

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Cum on guys if trivium are metalcore than slayer are f****** death metal.
Dus any1 here know what they are talkin about?

[QUOTE=Thrashmother]Cum on guys if trivium are metalcore than slayer are f****** death metal.
Dus any1 here know what they are talkin about?[/QUOTE]

You certainly don't...

Trivium are pretty much metalcore, but more just plain metal...

Slayer are abotu as thrash as you can get.

Trivium are pretty cool, although i only have 2 songs..

I dont care about what genre they are, i like the music :thumb:

Heres a cover I did of Like Light to the Flies.

[URL=http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=360577&T=711]http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=360577&T=711[/URL]

I am a big fan of Trivium. I have been listening to them for a little less than a year now. I think that Ember to Inferno is much heavier than Ascendancy, but there are a few not so good songs on Ember to Inferno.

GuitarOne put them at #4 I think for the upcoming guitar heros or something like that.

There is also a live concert of them up at [url]http://www.fabchannel.com/[/url] . I have watched it a few times. Its pretty good :)

If I have time tonight, I will upload both Trivium Albums to YSI.

please do... i have if i could collapse the masses and pillars of serpents

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Trivium are more of a hybrid of thrash, slight death metal and a small amount of metalcore. And to the opeth matey who said Slayer are definitly thrash, i was bein ironic you f***wit!Of course slayer are thrash!

/bumped to get rid of the other trivium thread that was started earlier.

i'm starting to like them more now, i think i might buy Ascendancy this summer.

its good to see theres a trivium thread thats actually decent, nice work fellas (and to any ladies who might've contributed... hey, we can only hope!). Trivium are a great band, they're so 80's and 90's, while still being modern and relevant, i love it! i really cant tell if i like ascendancy or ETI better... i really dont know! and to all of u guys out there saying "pls upload the whole albums etc etc", its getting old now! i say if u really wanna support the band and realy enjoy them to their full extent, go and buy an album at the very least... i suggest u buy both!

'to burn the eye', 'ember to inferno' and possibly 'my hatred' and 'fugue' were the first songs to really stand out... 'to burn the eye' has just got the most infectious riffs, its got such a cool song layout, hard to explain. there's a verse, then there's the pre-pre chorus riff and pre-pre chorus, then theres the pre chorus (fantastic fast picking!) and then the chorus... boy im confusing myself now! sorry im just a little excited!

yup, trivium would probably have to be the discovery of 2005... so young (im a year older than matt heafy), so much potential, a big well known label behind them... i get shivers just thinking where they could go... both good and bad shivers!

I am just gunna bump this up and tell you all i am going to see them play live in august sometime at a local club.

Anybody already seen them or is planning on doing?

Trivium are amazing, great guitar work especially on the lead. Best band to come out for a long while and with some great riffs.

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]I am just gunna bump this up and tell you all i am going to see them play live in august sometime at a local club.

Anybody already seen them or is planning on doing?[/QUOTE]


Saw them twice, good live band.

[QUOTE=Carn]Saw them twice, good live band.[/QUOTE]

Yeah im goin with a few mates, its only like £10 or something, i cant wait. I'm gunna get battered in the pit but it will be worth it.

Can't wait to see Trivium on ozzfest in 2 weeks :)