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Pinhead13 06-04-2006 08:30 PM

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_in_irregular_time_signatures[/url]


:)

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-04-2006 08:47 PM

I saw that list once. Not exactly close to complete.

I was at a friends house the other day, and he let me listen to this song he's been working on. It is really in no time signature at all, but all of the parts (guitar, bass, drums) match up. Essentially, it's random spurts of sound laiden with a lot of rests in between. :p It's still cool though. Very Fantomas-esque while maintaining the same style.

So..I guess it's not very Fantomas-esque, heh.

Duncster 06-04-2006 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Well, the different limb thing is just known as something along the lines of "independant drumming" or some **** like that. It's apparently really hard to do. I can see why.[/QUOTE]
yeah thats a polyrhythm
cant use grammar or punctuation because keyboard broke
and to jack destructo yeah three over four is a good easy one to tap out

Bfhurricane 06-04-2006 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]
but i believe main verse of MOP was written in 4/4 and 13/16.[/QUOTE]
Im pretty sure that entire song is in 4/4 though I could be mistaken. Bach liked to switch around in time signatures here and there. Dream Theater is the master of switching time signatures without you even knowing it. Between the Buried and Me... I couldnt even tell you what time signature their sh1t is in. I doubt they even have a time signature, it sounds like they play until theyre tired.

Moses 06-04-2006 10:05 PM

Sorry but TDEP, Meshuggah, Spastic Ink and Planet X are the top rhythm guys right now,

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-04-2006 10:20 PM

Spastic Ink, holy crap. They amaze to no end.

Moses 06-04-2006 10:28 PM

Bobby Jarzombek is a ****ing crazy drummer. I swear he should have gotten farther in the polls.

SubtleDagger 06-04-2006 10:37 PM

There's a powertab of Dillinger Escape Plan's "43% Burnt" if you'd like to see some odd time sig changes.

[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/dillinger_escape_plan/43_burnt_power_tab.htm[/url]

Tyler 06-04-2006 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]Bobby Jarzombek is a ****ing crazy drummer. I swear he should have gotten farther in the polls.[/QUOTE]
He is GROSSLY underrated, as is Ron at guitar. Those two are so ****ing original, and they're related. Not fair.

I can't wait for Ron Jarzombek's new project with Alex Webster and Derek Roddy

MRDuCran 06-05-2006 08:29 AM

[QUOTE=Moses]Sorry but TDEP, Meshuggah, Spastic Ink and Planet X are the top rhythm guys right now,[/QUOTE]

Fukk, I just downloaded "School", it's awesome.

Dancin' Man 06-05-2006 08:50 AM

DEP does a lot of changing. Those really rhythmic sections of theirs are usually seemingly random streches of time signatures switching.

MRDuCran 06-05-2006 09:06 AM

I downloaded that powertab of Dillinger Escape Plan's "43% Burnt", it was so horrible, I can't believe people play stuff like that.

Deth 06-05-2006 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=Killtacular]I did. 4/4. Good game.

The only Necrophagist song I can think of not in common time is Seven, which is in, surprisingly, 7/8.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I didn't look at the tab first. About half the song is in 4/4. It does change between 4/4, 5/4, 12/8 8/8 and 9/8 in parts though.

zabbit82 06-05-2006 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=Pinhead13][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_in_irregular_time_signatures[/url]


:)[/QUOTE]
Whoa! I didn't know Yes's "Heart Of The Sunrise" was partialy in 5/4. I didn't know what it was period.

thatscooliguess 06-05-2006 11:31 AM

i think money from pink floyd is pritty messed up as far as time sig goes.... to be honest ive heard a lot of weird timing before but i dont really know how to read it or anythng so......

nowitzki 06-05-2006 11:54 AM

Turn It On Again by Genesis is in 13/4 which is pretty odd considering its a pop song.

ghettoeddo 06-05-2006 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=thatscooliguess]i think money from pink floyd is pritty messed up as far as time sig goes.... to be honest ive heard a lot of weird timing before but i dont really know how to read it or anythng so......[/QUOTE]

it's in 7. well that's how i counted it.
i guess yo could do 4 then 3

mostafagalal 12-26-2009 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=Pinhead13;12507407][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_in_irregular_time_signatures[/url]


:)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was going to post that too. I created an account in this forum just to reply to this thread. If you want the weirdest time signatures, then it's progressive rock/metal that you're looking at here.

Dream Theater have a plethora of crazy time signatures and time signature changes in their songs. Their song "The Dance of Eternity" (from the album Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory) "contains mixtures of faster and slower beat groupings in 8, 7, 6, 5, and 4. It goes through 104 time signature changes in just over six minutes." [Quoted straight from Wikipedia] :smash: :lol:

lak89 12-26-2009 09:26 PM

Spiral Architect uses really odd time signatures

Aaron 12-26-2009 10:13 PM

Non-standard time signatures aren't weird. Can't you dudes count?

jebus FX 12-26-2009 10:20 PM

Meshuggah has the weirdest time signatures you people will ever listen.

Moon Flavor 12-26-2009 10:22 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17719672]Non-standard time signatures aren't weird. Can't you dudes count?[/QUOTE]

This.

I find myself writing stuff in 7 and 5 on accident just as much as I do 4 or 3. It's just the corporate laboratory-produced pop music that's been shoved down our throats our whole lives that makes anything other than 4/4 "weird"

edit: meshuggah doesn't have that weird of time signatures especially when compared to a lot of jazz and fusion... and when you count a lot of their songs they're usually just in 4/4 but have odd rhythms. Maybe some 9/8 or something sometimes but nothing spectacularly crazy

Aaron 12-26-2009 10:31 PM

The intervals will never be larger than division of 3. How is it hard to count to 3?

Moon Flavor 12-26-2009 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17719697]The intervals will never be larger than division of 3. How is it hard to count to 3?[/QUOTE]

For most Meshuggah fans...?

quite difficult

P13 12-26-2009 11:19 PM

my friend writes stuff in 17/16 sometimes, pisses the **** out of everyone trying to write parts to it

adb 12-27-2009 12:02 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;12508733]He is GROSSLY underrated, as is Ron at guitar. Those two are so ****ing original, and they're related. Not fair.

I can't wait for Ron Jarzombek's new project with Alex Webster and Derek Roddy[/QUOTE]

agree w/ 3 and a half year old Cocaine post

(*The Noonward Race*) 12-27-2009 12:10 AM

theres tons of music with no time signatures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1E962_xpAw

here is the mahavishnu orchestra
the first slow ominous part is in 7/8
but
the second part is [I]19/16 [/I]with intense playing at roughly 220~ bpm
[I]shreadddddddddddss[/I]

Carl Sagan 12-27-2009 12:21 AM

[quote]meshuggah doesn't have that weird of time signatures especially when compared to a lot of jazz and fusion... [/quote]

you know someone doesnt listen to jazz when they say stuff like this

(*The Noonward Race*) 12-27-2009 12:28 AM

^123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJCp9wsaj8

this is more "time signature complex :rolleyes:" than meshuggah..

Tyler 12-27-2009 12:46 AM

This was a pretty jazz-metal bump but I'm going to lock it now k.


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