haha what? if that scream doesnt sound like emtion then i have no idea what the hell emotion is.

[QUOTE=KillHumanRace]thanx for clearin that up cuzzz im so ****in sick of ***** bands like avendged sevenfold b called hardcore when there a mix of pop punk and metal, it gives a bad name to my bands like black flag, the dead kennedys, and bad religions old stuff (there poppy now)[/QUOTE]
bad religion never was hardcore

bad religion is misguided, bad punk. nothing more.

well ill give em some credit they have been playing for a very long time, oh yeah, and that song is very emotional, although the first 3 minutes is boring

the first 3 minutes kicks ****ing ***.

your joking, theres nothing there, like some little keyboarding with like 3 chords....

its beautiful. you must not like much post rock.

Yeah, I agree. It seems a little boring at first, but then you learn to appreciate it, and it serves as a really welcome warm-up to the song.

well yeah it does fit the song,and i do like it, but 3 minutes, CMON, at least the old underoath stuff like that had a buildup, a very tight buildup

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Uhh. "In the Nervous Light of Sunday" anybody? When Drew screams so hard his voice cracks. "All I ever asked/Was for a clean break." That part is so freakin' emotional I think I'm going to need new shorts. Listen to that one.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah! That part always gives me the chills.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Speaking of Underoath, I walk into Tower Records and see them at a listening station with [i]The Changing of Times[/i] in the spot where [i]They're Only Chasing Safety[/i] should be so I assume some disgruntled fan who thinks they sold out put all of the new CDs away and replaced them with the old ones and such. Then I started listening (I hadn't heard it at all yet) and it sounded like Taking Back Sunday sans the ovaries. I am very confused at this point because it sounds nothing like Underoath, which checks out though because people have said that. Then, after track 4, the CD ends. Either the CD is screwed or it wasn't them. Anybody wanna explain this at all? Or the sound of the new CD? Also, has anyone read AP's review of the CD. It's flattering. It likens the new CD to old school Grade, which I guess means I'd like it, but everyone says it sucks hard. Help me![/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's definitely the new album. It's in that same genre as Grade, but I wouldn't have made the same comparison. Grade were great. The new underoath is not.

sans the ovaries?

the 3rd ones ok, the first two are so amazing though, they are hard to find though, if you like thrice you'll probably like the new one

which cd, they are only chasing safety?, thats the tbs sounding one, the one before its tight, actually all of thes ones before it are tight

well i would recommend the first 2 to anyone

Man, I gotta stop doing this crap but oh well...

*downloaded new Converge album*

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Man, I gotta stop doing this crap but oh well...

*downloaded new Converge album*[/QUOTE]
you can download it already? i'm not going to but is it good?

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]It probably sucks.[/QUOTE]

Why do you say that?


And Buddy, can you send it to me?

Alright, I'm an emokid, but I grew up on local hardcore and metalcore. There is an obvious difference between the two styles. Hardcore is usually always fast and never breaks, even for solos, becuase most of the guitarists are straightedge and don't feel the need for elaborate solos. Metalcore has more double-bass style drumming, a very good example of good double-bass drum metalcore would be "Been Gon a Long Time" by Every Time I Die. They also use more lightening fret-work (being a guitarist myself) I know a good deal of hardcore is fast, but metalcore takes the blazing speed of metal and puts it in with hardcore underlyings. It is sort of hard to discern at times, but when you've been to enough shows, you can really tell the difference.

Yeah, what's your beef with Converge DFelon?

My download messed up, so I have the first 7 songs and about 96% of the 8th one. I really like it. It's a different sound for Converge but it's good stuff. They're a lot more gritty and a little bit more artsy, but at the same time the music's easier to get into. I wouldn't say it's better than [I]Jane Doe[/I], but it's still very good. Some people though really hate it, including this long time die-hard Converge fan I know, so I think a lot of people are going to be torn with this album.

[QUOTE=in jet eyes]Hardcore is usually always fast and never breaks, even for solos, becuase most of the guitarists are straightedge and don't feel the need for elaborate solos.[/QUOTE]

...What the [I]hell[/I] does being straight-edge have to do with not soloing?

hes just a ****ing mormon who likes fall out boy

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Yeah, what's your beef with Converge DFelon?

My download messed up, so I have the first 7 songs and about 96% of the 8th one. I really like it. It's a different sound for Converge but it's good stuff. They're a lot more gritty and a little bit more artsy, but at the same time the music's easier to get into. I wouldn't say it's better than [I]Jane Doe[/I], but it's still very good. Some people though really hate it, including this long time die-hard Converge fan I know, so I think a lot of people are going to be torn with this album.



...What the [I]hell[/I] does being straight-edge have to do with not soloing?[/QUOTE]

is the music still loud and does jacob bannon still scream nonstop?

It's still loud for the most part but like... the title track, "You Fail Me" is one of the most gritty and downright dirty songs I've ever heard. It's an epic too, followed by this really dark acoustic passage with murmuring over it (Kinda like the intro to "Flowers and Deadwire", but it's not a ballad or anything, so don't worry). On the first real song, "Last Light" he doesn't scream at all. He does this talk/yell thing reminscent of indie sorta kinda in the vein of mewithoutYou. That song really took me by surprise but I like it. The rest of the songs though are pretty loud, but I think it's more brooding and artistic than it is loud and in-your-face. It's not "brutal" like songs like "Fault and Fracture", "Concubine", "The Broken Vow", "Color Me Blood Red" and stuff like that. Then again, I only listened to it once, so I might change some of my opinions, but everything said here is my initial reaction.

Sounds good to me.

Jane Doe really was an excellent album.

yeah, i liked it

i only have jane doe and i didnt get it until saturday. now i want to get petitioning the empty sky(i think thats what its called). and i found a really cool cover they did of black flag's annihilate this week, it's awesome.

Good one GotKookie, I'm amazed.

"hes just a ****ing mormon who likes fall out boy"

A great one, that will keep me laughing for a while.
You are a ****ing genious and I want your body.


****ing idiot. You don't know you're ****ing face from your own ***.

What exactly, is a ****?

so your saying i dont know if im talking through my ***? thats called farting :)

"Jane Doe"
"The Saddest Day"
"Distance and Meaning"
"Hell to Pay"

You really have to hear the album [I]Jane Doe[/I] as a whole if you want to truly appreciate them... but give those songs a try.

Read the lyrics of Converge too
It is beautiful

Jane Doe is an awesome song. I have never been into them, but I really like that song.

Converge is one of the best band out there.
listen to the ablum from the begaing it is a crazy/emo/grind/techical ride

oh by the way the begaining of this forum kick *** it accurately describe the differnt kinds of hardcore/emo there is

Converge are Gods. I'm seeing them at Hellfest then twice in october w/ BTBAM. I'm so psyched!

Also I'm currently in line to download their new album "You Fail Me"

Hey Sk8Ska, do you think you could hook me up once you got it?

I say you download the album, then host it on a website so we can all have a listen.;)

Hahah If someone has the webspace I'll do it. Otherwise you'll have to get Soulseek and get it off me. I'm like 50 inline so it might take awhile. I'll post here once it's all done.

i wish i still had my site up and running so i could host you :(

Hurry Up! I'm gettin' antsy!