"Tool is a rhythm based band, and me, being an armony and melody whore, couldn't appreciate it."

What?!??!

TOOL is full of melody!! Just becuase the first part of the grudge is a bit jarring, doesnt mean its heavy all the way trhrough and its not. The middle section has great, melody.

Allthough i do agree that the rythm element is alot stronger than most contemporar music, but that's just cos danny carey is a genious.

i agree that The Grudge is an amazing song. the way that Danny carries that song is just fantastic and Maynard's 23 second scream is mind boggling

[QUOTE=suspectofsubtlety]TOOL is full of melody!! Just becuase the first part of the grudge is a bit jarring, doesnt mean its heavy all the way trhrough and its not. The middle section has great, melody.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, I've listened to the album enough to realize that The Grudge is not the same all the way through; you didn't have to explain me that.

Try to hum a Tool song along with Adam Jones' riffs. Even Adam Jones himself admits that they're not something that can get stuck inside your head:

[url]http://archive.guitarplayer.com/archive/artists/tool.shtml[/url]

But I'm starting to enjoy the album more... it somehow manages to chill me out. I know, it is weird that I listen to progressive metal to chill out. I like the fact that the cd has a spiritual wholeness.

Tool's music has the kind of slow, long melodies in it that can sometimes take a while to trully appreciate. Something about their songs always has some kind of melody, whether it be the vocals, the guitar, the bass, whatever. Yet the rhythm of the band is definately their strong point, and the "texture" of the music.

[QUOTE=Phunphone]
Try to hum a Tool song along with Adam Jones' riffs. Even Adam Jones himself admits that they're not something that can get stuck inside your head:[/QUOTE]

The Lateralus riffs are always in my head. And the Schism bass. And the grudge theme. I think you are purposely trying to disagree.

yeah aenima too is always going through my head and schism

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]The Lateralus riffs are always in my head. And the Schism bass. And the grudge theme. I think you are purposely trying to disagree.[/QUOTE]

Nah, I really do find them hard to hum along to...and I forget most of'em quite easily. I'm not telling that NOTHING is melodic by Tool. There has to be. Without melody, you can't create music. Tool has a melody, and keeps it constant throughout a song. The songs progress without having a strong chance in melody. They are usually simple, and have rhythm/ tempo changes instead of direct melody changes. It's a nice way of progressing, but it doesn't strike me. After all, Adam Jones' guitarwork just don't inspire me. It's personal opinion.

Do I hate Tool? No. I somehow prefer APC.

Tool are one of the worlds greatest bands, no question

Good review

[QUOTE=Libertine`88]Tool are one of the worlds greatest bands, no question

Good review[/QUOTE]

Bad post.

Anyhoo, a teacher of mine saw Tool during the Lateralus tour in Binghampton, NY with Meshuggah. Apparently Thomas Haake played with Tool for a few songs. I want live footage so. so. so badly. AJIG, can you help?

I love Tool and I most definitely agree with your 5/5- very nice review :thumb:
This is, quite possibly, my favorite Tool CD.

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]Bad post.

Anyhoo, a teacher of mine saw Tool during the Lateralus tour in Binghampton, NY with Meshuggah. Apparently Thomas Haake played with Tool for a few songs. I want live footage so. so. so badly. AJIG, can you help?[/QUOTE]

I believe he played with them for "Triad" but I could be wrong...

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]Bad post.

Anyhoo, a teacher of mine saw Tool during the Lateralus tour in Binghampton, NY with Meshuggah. Apparently Thomas Haake played with Tool for a few songs. I want live footage so. so. so badly. AJIG, can you help?[/QUOTE]

Dammit, now i want live footage of that. i dont think there is any around though, and although there have been other great musicians on stage with tool, that still sounds like one of the better

Well, maybe not as good as Aloke

Aloke?


Educate me.

Aloke Dutta, Danny's tabla teacher.

Played with them on the Salival version of Push[color=white]i[/color]t.

Incidentally, for those who live in the vicinity of the LA clubs, has anyone ever seen Aloke perform on his own? Im always reading of these sessions he runs throughout LA. Although im guessing that there are no LA mxers reading this

I love the wah pedal work on parabola. If it wasnt for that, i dont know how id feel about that song

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Aloke Dutta, Danny's tabla teacher.

Played with them on the Salival version of Push[color=white]i[/color]t.[/QUOTE]


I love that song so much


Good review, can't help but give a perfect score for a perfect album :thumb:


My songs would def. have to be The Grudge, Parabol/Parabola, and Lateralus.

[QUOTE=manuscriptreplica]There's far too many 5/5 ratings in this thread, 3/5 at best, Aenima is way better[/QUOTE]

Dictionary reference term for Subjective.

1.

a) Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external
world: a subjective decision.

b) Particular to a given person; personal: subjective experience.

[QUOTE=incubliss]Dictionary reference term for Subjective.

1.

a) Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external
world: a subjective decision.

b) Particular to a given person; personal: subjective experience.[/QUOTE]



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* it has a 5/5 it had better be mindblowingly good. A must own... even outside of the genre. Something that could change the opinion of someone who didnt like the genre.
* A 4/5 would be Exceptional within the Genre. Something good for introducing someone to the genre but probably wouldnt change their mind about it.
* 3/5 would be something someone who likes the genre should probably pick up.
* 2/5 would be something someone who is diehard for the genre should at least know about.
* 1/5 terrible, terrible stuff..
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Since Bartender labelled it in the Rock/metal genre, this CD is certainly not mindblowingly good, a must own, and it certainly wouldn't change someone's opinion on rock/metal if they hated it