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Det_Nosnip 10-11-2006 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=pate;13420755]I have it. It's pretty cool.

I think I'm going to mess around in GuitarPro, converting Opeth songs into orchestra arrangements. :p[/QUOTE]

Join the club. :D

denboy 10-11-2006 05:26 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;13420507]I used Finale's default sound library. Which VST do you have?[/QUOTE]

Edirol HQ Orchestral VST

Eliminator 10-11-2006 06:17 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;13418707]I know! I'm telling you, get a string orchestra together, a conductor with some balls, and have at it...here are some tunes that I think would work great:

Demon of the Fall
Lepar Affinity
Bleak
Deliverance
Windowpane
To Rid the Disease
The Drapery Falls
Godhead's Lament
The Moor (maybe...these two might depend too much on the "folkiness" aspect)

A few soft songs on there, but it's the heavy part of Opeth that IMO is the most interesting in terms of transcribing to classical instrumentation.[/QUOTE]

An orchestral arrangement of "The Leper Affinity" would be awesome if done right.

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-11-2006 10:33 AM

Knifeboy - I'm not quite sure how VST's work..Do you run that in Cool Edit or what? I've downloaded a few and tried to run them in Audacity to no avail. I've also tried to use a VST host which also didn't work.

:confused:

TojesDolan 10-11-2006 11:31 AM

Guitar Pro is good for my musical needs at the moment.

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-11-2006 02:54 PM

GP4 is good for getting down ideas and sharing compositions, but I am down right sick of tabbing all my songs out in it. It makes me feel obligated to write the song exactly as it will be played. I'm not a perfectionist by any means, so it really isn't me coming through the music.

Then again I don't have any quality recording equipment, so it'll have to do for now. :p

pate 10-11-2006 02:59 PM

I love it. I don't get to play guitar much anymore, so I use it for writing.

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-11-2006 03:05 PM

What kind of stuff do you write, Pate? I've only heard the song your entered in the swords and sorcery comp, so I've always been under the impression that you write black metal.

Shadows 10-11-2006 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13421430]An orchestral arrangement of "The Leper Affinity" would be awesome if done right.[/QUOTE]
Ew, that songs would sound horrible in an arrangement.

TojesDolan 10-11-2006 03:21 PM

Who knows it might turn out well. :eek:

On a related note, I write a lot of everything, currently focusing on pop-rock, with sudden taints of Led-Zeppelin-esque riffs to make it interesting. I hate how most pop-rock and mainstream rock nowadays has simplified waaay to much, and I like the arrangements in classic rock guitar playin, so there you go.

pate 10-11-2006 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13423050]What kind of stuff do you write, Pate? I've only heard the song your entered in the swords and sorcery comp, so I've always been under the impression that you write black metal.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I write all kinds of stuff. Blues, acoustic, traditional metal, death metal, doom metal, thrash metal, black metal. I seriously cannot go five minutes without coming up with a cool (at the time) idea.

denboy 10-11-2006 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;13421956]Knifeboy - I'm not quite sure how VST's work..Do you run that in Cool Edit or what? I've downloaded a few and tried to run them in Audacity to no avail. I've also tried to use a VST host which also didn't work.

:confused:[/QUOTE]

Audicity and cool edit doesn't really offer much support for VST's, I use fruityloops for VSTs..
The "demo" version of renoise : [url]http://www.renoise.com/download.php[/url] is a good freely available alternative though.. Only downside is, you can't export your work to a sound file in the demo.. But that's not much of a problem , since you can just play it, and record the output with another program

Eliminator 10-11-2006 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen;13423067]Ew, that songs would sound horrible in an arrangement.[/QUOTE]

stop being wrong

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-12-2006 12:17 AM

i have fl, knifeboy

can you record in fl though

denboy 10-12-2006 05:04 AM

Yeah, you can, but I don't know how.. Hehehe. I just use it for sequencing

Det_Nosnip 10-12-2006 02:02 PM

If I can find a way of making it work in Finale, that would be sweet. From a compositional standpoint, I find sequencing somewhat pointless. Although fun to play with, there's really no need for them, and they make a poor substitute if you're actually trying to write parts for the given instruments, as the mechanics of a piano are completely different than those of...say, a distorted guitar, or a violin. Programmed instruments can be very limited, especially in terms of feel, but trying to record polyphonic music of that degree takes "pain in the ***" to new levels. :p

pate 10-12-2006 02:59 PM

I'm over halfway done with my (s[SIZE=2]hitty[/SIZE]) orchestral Bleak. It needs some work, but I'll upload it when I'm done.

Shattered_Future 10-12-2006 03:59 PM

I cannot STAND programming keyboard lines that I can't play. There's no bloody dynamics at all, and it usually comes out rather mechanical sounding, coupled with the only semidecency of the soundclips.

Det_Nosnip 10-12-2006 04:42 PM

True, but it gets the ideas out there and provides a template to use when you finally decide to hire/find people to play everything.

Finale is capable of incorporating dynamic changes, by the way. It simply takes more time....you have to actually write in all of the accentuations, etc...although, in some respect, this is actually a good thing, as it trains your mind to become more precise in transcriptions.

Det_Nosnip 10-12-2006 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Knifeboy;13421355]Edirol HQ Orchestral VST[/QUOTE]

Sounds tasty...yeah, I'll take it, if you don't mind. My e-mail address is [email]twpinson@yahoo.com[/email]

sonicst0rm 10-12-2006 04:57 PM

if you wanna make the music have more feel, you have to put it thru filters and automate a lot of it throughout the song... Ususally you get a base down and then run it through all of the stuff until it sounds good. Can be a pain sometimes. I used to be into music producing but it was just a hobby

If you have a velocity sensitive keyboard you can attach the dynamics to pretty much any control, it helps sometimes with what you're trying to do.

Cubase, Ableton and FL will all probably work for those orchestral VST instruments. there's a lot of packs so you can sample them as well, but i've never really tried symphonic stuff like that so I don't know what's good that's out there.

Shattered_Future 10-12-2006 05:07 PM

Garageband does a decent job with what I want to do at the moment though. I want to get Logic Pro 7 sooner or later, even though I don't have a grand to spare. :mad:

Det_Nosnip 10-13-2006 02:19 AM

[url]http://www.emule.com[/url]

If you don't feel bad about stealing, you can get anything from Emule.

denboy 10-13-2006 04:41 AM

The file is sent

Crysiss 10-13-2006 08:59 AM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;13429415]Garageband does a decent job with what I want to do at the moment though. I want to get Logic Pro 7 sooner or later, even though I don't have a grand to spare. :mad:[/QUOTE]


You wouldnt steal it?

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-13-2006 01:50 PM

When will Garageband become PC compatible? :mad:

ayeron 10-13-2006 01:57 PM

@Dr. Jake Destructo, I don't think it will ever happen

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-13-2006 02:11 PM

I know, but I can only hope...Is there any PC-compatible program with the versatily and ease of use that can paralell Garageband?

Shattered_Future 10-13-2006 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=Crysiss;13432952]You wouldnt steal it?[/QUOTE]

Course I would, aside from the fact that it's impossible to find Mac centric software to steal.

EDIT: Ted, am I doing something wrong with this site? Where do I find stuff?

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-13-2006 03:19 PM

Yeah, I feel stupid for not being able to navigate a site with 3 links. :p


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