the only good part of ABR is their drummer

and guitars
and basses
and vox

yeah boy

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;17184396]haha you call me out every time i mention that i like abr
good thing we have that yellow fever in common[/QUOTE]

Yerp, I luv dem asian bitches. :]

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;17184361]Haha, ABR sucks you newbs.[/QUOTE]

Awesome live band. Can only really listen to the song Speech Impediment on album anymore.

*hits china for 20 seconds* while doing boo da bop on double bass pedals

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;17184388]ABR have seriously written some of the most generic and boring metalcore songs I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]

ABR* is the best at generic metalcore.

It's not [I]good[/I], but it's [I]fun[/I].

*(you could make a case for Conducting From The Grave maybe, because CFTG is less generic but they're also less fun)

No, best generic metalcore has to be Prayer For Cleansing.

bring da mother****in' ruckus

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17184724]No, best generic metalcore has to be Prayer For Cleansing.[/QUOTE]

yeah but only because they basically created generic metalcore

[QUOTE=Luc214;17184776]bring da mother****in' ruckus[/QUOTE]

man I hope their new shits good!!

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17184782]yeah but only because they basically created generic metalcore[/QUOTE]

Truth.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17184724]No, best generic metalcore has to be Prayer For Cleansing.[/QUOTE]

If they released their albums last year, they would be considered mediocre.

HahAHahHAHAhahAHahHAHAHahahhahAHAHAloLOLOlalHAHahahahALOlo@@!!

A more epic failure has never been witnessed.

Their stuff on myspace did nothing for me.

What did I miss?

Amazing songwriting idk.

[QUOTE=mathjic;17184795]man I hope their new shits good!![/QUOTE]

you say that as if it's a remote possibility

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17184887]Amazing songwriting idk.[/QUOTE]

I must have missed that behind the boring tremelo bits and predictable breakdowns.

[img]http://facepalm.org/img.php[/img]
[QUOTE=Luc214;17184888]you say that as if it's a remote possibility[/QUOTE]
Worst. Vocalist. In. Deathcore.

It refreshes each time you look at the page.

But yeah, Prayer For Cleansing's riffs > Bridge To Solaces and August Burns Reds, if we're gonna talk about clone bands being good and bash PFC.

Yeah, breakdowns are predictable in placement, as they are on every single old metalcore album. Bad tremolo parts don't exist with this band.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17184903]It refreshes each time you look at the page.[/quote]

Yeh, realized that slowly >_>

[QUOTE]But yeah, Prayer For Cleansing's riffs > Bridge To Solaces and August Burns Reds, if we're gonna talk about clone bands being good and bash PFC.[/QUOTE]

Bridge To Solace is a fairly different band, and I would disagree about the quality of the writing. BTS does better hardcore bits when they do hardcore and better metal riffs when they do metal.

[quote]Yeah, breakdowns are predictable in placement, as they are on every single old metalcore album. Bad tremolo parts don't exist with this band.[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about placement so much as rhythm. August Burns Red is much strongly rhythmically, which is why they're so much fun and PFC is mediocre. The breakdowns are also faster, which makes up for any tedium from rhythmically uninteresting breakdowns.

PFC were probably great and amazing for their day, but they don't particularly stand out when put against today's groups.

Bridge To Solace has one good album. Prayer For Cleansing's one album and their EP are much better imo, much less one directional songwriting.

As for the breakdowns, yeah, the rhythms are more simplistic because its old metalcore. Listen to old Poison The Well, or freaking 7A7P ffs.

And I'm pretty sure PFC started the whole MDM riff over top of a breakdown thing.

To me they definitely stand out above all of the bands that ripped them off.

BTS's first two albums are very good, and are fairly differerent from one another. Their most recent album doesn't really differentiate itself from their previous efforts, though. Like most hardcore, the tracks can blend together, though.

The fact that it's old metalcore doesn't excuse it, even though I like PTW and would like 7A7P if they had better production.

Nope, the metalcore Beatles PFC are not.

If weak production is a deciding factor for you, I'm done. This has gotten even more retarded.

Protip: Bridge To Solace isn't hardcore.

Yeah, the audio quality of music is important to me. Retarded, neh?

Bridge To Solace is a mix between hardcore and metal. Metalcore is probably a more accurate title for them than most bands with the label.

They don't really have that many hardcore parts though.

Like, yeah, they're a pretty good metalcore band, but calling them hardcore is a bit of a stretch.

It's like calling Conducting From The Grave metalcore.

First album is 75/25 hardcore. Second album is probably the opposite, if not a bit more in the center.

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace;17184928]Yeah, the audio quality of music is important to me. Retarded, neh?[/QUOTE]
quality of music =/= quality of production

Whoa, I hate most metalcore and even I'm starting to dig [I]Luce[/I]

Hey, 666DiMe666. Are you still up for a good plundering of buttholes after we plunder some cruise ships?