[QUOTE=clearvision]What vocals are more your thing then? The high vocals? Claudio from coheed and cambria, omar from the mars volta? Harsher vocals?[/QUOTE]

Nah, I don't like high vocals either, mostly. :lol:

I like neutral vocals, not too whiny, not too high, you know, normal people. I like Harsh vocals as well.


[QUOTE]nu metal?


explain?


i hear refrences, but no backing[/QUOTE]

Well, like I said, to me they sound like those bands, with longer tracks. The simple riffs, repetitive structure of the song, 'whiny' vocals, just the overall sound. I don't know if I would call them just Nu-metal, but they do have lots of similarities.

I wouldn't really call the riffs simple.. Well.. they are simple, but the way the simple riffs from the bass, and guitar interact, is more complex

Maybe, but I just don't see the appeal of it.

[QUOTE]Maybe, but I just don't see the appeal of it.[/QUOTE]heh....i just noticed you post better than most regulars on here. :-/

There riffs are pretty basic, but im in love with danny carey.


/opens up closet to danny carey shrine <3

*sigh* someday danny.....someday.

It's not really about the riffs, it's about the whole musical texture. The bass and drums sort out the rhythm to the song, the vocal line provides the melody, and the guitar just reinforces the vocals maybe adding a countermelody once in a while.

[QUOTE=faith+1]i dont call them progressive, but thats me.[/QUOTE]

i will call tool progressive-[B]metal[/B]

can we NOT try to influence this guy anymore


PLEASE

[QUOTE]i will call tool progressive-metal[/QUOTE]

Pravada, and Freewill are progressive metal. Tool on the other hand is modern rock.

[QUOTE= wikipedia]If fringe progressive metal acts are to be included, Tool would be the most popular group in the genre. Tool exploded to prominence in the mid 90s with the release of their third album, Ænima, and have since gone on to become one of the most popular rock acts in the world. Their eclectic mix of heavy metal, rhythmic drumming, complex structures and deep lyrics has prompted many people to classify them as a progressive metal band although their music differs substantially from traditional progressive acts (see Diversity section, below). However, Tool's next release, 2001's Lateralus solidified the band's standing in the Progressive Metal scene with its complex structure and highly conceptual nature, although some purists contend that Tool is more akin to Industrial music rather than traditional Progressive metal.[/QUOTE] im more of the "purist". they are not progressive metal at all to me.

[QUOTE]It's not really about the riffs, it's about the whole musical texture. The bass and drums sort out the rhythm to the song, the vocal line provides the melody, and the guitar just reinforces the vocals maybe adding a countermelody once in a while.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I guess it is, but since I don't like the vocals much, It's hard for me to get into it, hence leaving long and simple structure with no melody ---> bores me. :) If only I liked the vocals, it would have been way different.


[QUOTE]can we NOT try to influence this guy anymore


PLEASE[/QUOTE]

Can't handle the criticism, fanboy? :p

[QUOTE]heh....i just noticed you post better than most regulars on here. :-/

There riffs are pretty basic, but im in love with danny carey.


/opens up closet to danny carey shrine <3

*sigh* someday danny.....someday.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the drums were pretty cool. :)


[QUOTE]i will call tool progressive-metal[/QUOTE]

Naaah, Faith is right, they're more modern rock.

To me, Tool is alternative prog rock. There are prog genres outside of metal people.

I would say Tool was a dark, heavy, but artistic rock band throughout the Opiate/Undertow years, and added some slight prog influences during the Aenima days. Lateralus I could classify as progressive.

for me tool is still more metal than rock, but thats only my opinion...

and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool?

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I would say Tool was a dark, heavy, but artistic rock band throughout the Opiate/Undertow years, and added some slight prog influences during the Aenima days. Lateralus I could classify as progressive.[/QUOTE]

yeah, thats a good definition... i can live with 'dark, heavy rock'

[QUOTE]and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool?[/QUOTE] no, thats because tool do it better than most modern rock bands. just because someone is better and more intresting, doesnt mean that we should start another genre.

Porcupine Tree is pretty much the same genre, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=faith+1]no, thats because tool do it better than most modern rock bands. just because someone is better and more intresting, doesnt mean that we should start another genre.[/QUOTE]


Ludacris is alot like tool .....................PsyKE!!!!


no for real the most similer band is prolly ............hmmm none really

there like pink floyd mixed with a dude playing a tabla mixed with i dunno.....

Similair bands...

Kyuss, 30 seconds to mars, A perfect circle, Chevlle, cog

[QUOTE=faith+1]I would like to hear it if you dont mind :) (i think they suck too so dont worry)[/QUOTE]

why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck

[QUOTE=lucky luciano]why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck[/QUOTE]

It's a little joke he has going on, I don't quite get it though, sadly :(

[QUOTE=lucky luciano]why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck[/QUOTE]

Tool does suck, this thread is just a front for our underground drug ring.

really

I've always considered Tool Prog Metal, because they were the first progressive band I got into before I realized the acutal depth of the genre, so I just stick with that because that's what they've always been to me.

[QUOTE] and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool?[/QUOTE]

There aren't really that many bands that are similair to Tool, but here are some bands that most Tool fans seem to like:

Porcupine Tree
Dredg
Pink Floyd
Opeth
Cog
Rush
A Perfect Circle(duh)

About categorizing Tool- Based on their overall sound, I'd say they're a prog rock band. I mean, sure, they have their less complex songs, like Stinkfist, and everything from Opiate, but for the most part, each song is a lot more complex when compared to your typical soup of rock bands. Let's take 46&2, for example. Aside from brining up the mathematical aspect of the song, there are tons of riffs involved in the song, and multiple variations of the chorus and verse riffs that resurface throughout the song. There are a lot of Tool songs like this, where they have an intro, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, then a basically entirely different mult- minute song in between, chorus verse, outro. Lateralus is similair to this, Ticks and Leeches is(I'm not even counting the segue in the middle) and a few more. This style of song structure makes for an extremely progressive sound.

Oh, and did I mention Third Eye? The most free-form song ever made? :p

[QUOTE=clearvision]Similair bands...

Kyuss, 30 seconds to mars, A perfect circle, Chevlle, cog[/QUOTE]

kyuss doesn't sound like tool ... its stoner rock :)

[quote=otherside]Tool does suck, this thread is just a front for our underground drug ring.[/quote]

****, now you've told them; police will come, arrest us, and this thread will be closed :upset:

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Porcupine Tree is pretty much the same genre, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Porcupine Tree is modern rock?

[QUOTE=Kage]I've always considered Tool Prog Metal, because they were the first progressive band I got into before I realized the acutal depth of the genre, so I just stick with that because that's what they've always been to me.[/QUOTE]

yeah, at least kage is on my side :p

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Well, I didn't like it. The album started off pretty good, Stinkfist is an okay song, apart from the vocals, that's something that annoyed me throughout the entire album, the vocals are so bland, whiny even. I don't really know why you call them progressive, especially with maynard's vocals, they sounds like another post-grungy nu-metal band, I'm not saying that to piss you guys off. Well, maybe a little. :lol:

But seriously, they do sound like a lot of those bands, I forget all their names, the ones who have videos on Launch, only Tool's songs are longer. All of the songs just go on and on, with the exception of Stinkfist, which is about the right length.

The album wasn't particularly terrible or anything, but the fact that it was so long, I mean 9 minutes or even 13 minutes for a song that barely even shows a lot of change. Sure, there were some moments where I would think 'Hmm, nice riff' or sometimes I would enjoy part of the song. The drums were pretty nice, I guess.

Best songs : Stinkfist and especially Intermission, at least that song had some energy.

That reminds me, what's with all the useless tracks? They only add to the boredom.

Overall, I would give it a 2/5 or so, maybe 1.5/5 for beign so da[I]m[/I]n long.



[size=7]RUN![/size][/QUOTE]

thats great that you actually listened to the whole album but I really don't care to hear what you thought of it cause it doesn't sound like you know **** about music. I guess you shouldve listened to lateralus if you wanted to hear some complex songs, but they probably wouldve been to long for you.

[QUOTE=lucky luciano]thats great that you actually listened to the whole album but I really don't care to hear what you thought of it cause it doesn't sound like you know **** about music. I guess you shouldve listened to lateralus if you wanted to hear some complex songs, but they probably wouldve been to long for you.[/QUOTE]

I know more about music than you, motherfu[I]c[/I]ker.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]I know more about music than you, motherfu[I]c[/I]ker.[/QUOTE]
While that's true, to say that Third Eye has little change is just plain foolish.

Your comment on Porcupine Tree was also pretty foolish.

thats great im glad you think so super[I]queer[/I] but all i hear are stupid things from you.