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I'm Charming 04-27-2006 03:42 PM

^^^ Musicial Theory fanboy alert^^^

haha. I've been practicing Lord Abortion. It's pretty easy and very fun to play. I didn't even know I could trem pick chords that fast (I just kept raising the speed and I was playing it faster than the song hahahha)

gmoneyguy 04-27-2006 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]^^^ Musicial Theory fanboy alert^^^[/QUOTE]
Damn straight, If wasn't I would probably fail out of school.

repcak 04-27-2006 04:58 PM

thank you Mitch; good to know that i'm not the only one, who is getting sick of licks, when playing them all the time.

to the swamphell song: the funny thing is, that when i play it with the wrong technique but fast i can play it without mistake... but when i try to play it with the right technique i can't ... if fast or slow, i make the same mistake.

to motivate yourself with guitar-videos: its the same i do too! take a break and then listen to a good song or video and then practise again ... 100% motivated. the strange thing is, that this didn't helped me the last week. i got sick of guitar in general... i even tried not to listen to metal :eek: i think the best thing is to make a break... don't touch the guitar for a week... yesterday i played a little bit and today i enjoyed playing guitar (a little bit).

Shattered_Future 04-27-2006 05:19 PM

Music Theory is my best course in school as well...

Yea, do something more fun if you find your practicing getting boring. I usually do half an hour of the stuff my teacher gives me, and I do my own stuff for half an hour or so...

I'm Charming 04-27-2006 05:22 PM

I never get tired of the same riffs.

Since I play what I love. :thumb:

GenuineImitation 04-27-2006 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I never get tired of the same riffs.

Since I play what I love. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


I like your new username.

MRDuCran 04-27-2006 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]thank you Mitch; good to know that i'm not the only one, who is getting sick of licks, when playing them all the time.

to the swamphell song: the funny thing is, that when i play it with the wrong technique but fast i can play it without mistake... but when i try to play it with the right technique i can't ... if fast or slow, i make the same mistake.

to motivate yourself with guitar-videos: its the same i do too! take a break and then listen to a good song or video and then practise again ... 100% motivated. the strange thing is, that this didn't helped me the last week. i got sick of guitar in general... i even tried not to listen to metal :eek: i think the best thing is to make a break... don't touch the guitar for a week... yesterday i played a little bit and today i enjoyed playing guitar (a little bit).[/QUOTE]

I think everyone must get sick of playing at some point in their musical lives, especially if it's like us, trying to get to a stupidly high level of playing but practising everything soo slow, it can get depressing.

The to Swaphell thing, it's probably because you don't know it well enough yet, as I said. It's weird how it works but you can play some things faster than you can slow. You'll have more accuracy but less consistency so getting it perfect slowly is essential.

I've been taking a break, not because I'm bored of guitar, just because I'm a lazy bastard during holidays.

gmoneyguy 04-27-2006 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]The to Swaphell thing, it's probably because you don't know it well enough yet, as I said. It's weird how it works but you can play some things faster than you can slow. You'll have more accuracy but less consistency so getting it perfect slowly is essential.
[/QUOTE]
Quoted for truth.

repcak 04-28-2006 06:42 AM

i once again analysed my fingermoves and i think one of the problems, why i make this mistake is that my pinky and ringfinger (4 and 3) are too weak, though they shouldnt, cause i use them often - but in this fingerpattern the moves seem to be a little uncontrolled and weak.
so i think i have to strength them through some pinky and ringfinger exercises :D

thanks

kurrpt 04-28-2006 06:49 AM

thats the common misconception repcak...


people believe their ring and pinky are "weak", so they do finger trills over and over on those two fingers. The problem is, they are compensating for coordination problems by repeating a task a million times. It really instill bad technique.

The thing to do is try to be mindful of those two digits at all times (focus). It sounds easy, or over simplified, but its really the truth. If you havent already figured out, fretting a note takes VERY little energy, therefore its practically negligable that you have a LOT of muscle in your fingers. The trick is to repeat the task over and over, and train your muscle memory to be perfect, while maintaining that level of precision.

repcak 04-28-2006 07:50 AM

hm... i won't make thrills. hm... the problem i have is maybe not the strength (sorry that i expressed myself wrong) but its the coordination between my ringfinger and pinky, when i have to use them one after another

i would do those exercises i think:
-----------------
---------------
---------------
-----------3-4
------3-4-----
-3-4----------etc.
or/and
---------3-5
-----3-5----
-3-5--------etc.

the swamphell song is:
----------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------[B][U]16[/U][/B]--------14
-16-13----------------16-15--------[B][U]15[/U][/B]---16-15-----
--------13----------13--------16-13------------------
-----------14---14------------------------------------
--------------[B][U]16[/U][/B]---------------------------------------

the marked notes are the notes i always make a mistake....the end of the sweeping
----16
15---
is the main problem... and you use the ringfinger and pinky.

kurrpt 04-28-2006 08:00 AM

you definitely have the right idea...


what REALLY helps me, is to sit down, close my eyes, and concentrate my hardest on those 2 fingers. Ill actually be able to feel the wood/fret wire under those 2 fingers and maintain a VERY small heighth above the fretboard.

You also need to learn the relationships with your other fingers. Something like

43424142 works pretty nice, but you dont wanna get into a habbit of doing the same lick over and over. Mixing it up definitely goes a long way

repcak 04-28-2006 08:06 AM

yeah, mixing it up is a good idea... the reason i'm frustrated since last week :p

what i do as a warm up is: 1234, 1324, 1423.

... and closing my eyes and concentrate on my moves is a really good idea... have to try this out. thanks :thumb:

blue3 04-28-2006 08:08 AM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I never get tired of the same riffs.

Since I play what I love. :thumb:[/QUOTE]you also love receiving butt secks

kurrpt 04-28-2006 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]yeah, mixing it up is a good idea... the reason i'm frustrated since last week :p

what i do as a warm up is: 1234, 1324, 1423.

... and closing my eyes and concentrate on my moves is a really good idea... have to try this out. thanks :thumb:[/QUOTE]



im such a technique whore, and i havent been playing that long at all. Its all fresh in my mind to, so its usually no trouble at all

MRDuCran 04-28-2006 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=blue3]you also love receiving butt secks[/QUOTE]

lol you and your random anal penetrational posts.

gmoneyguy 04-28-2006 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]im such a technique whore, and i havent been playing that long at all. Its all fresh in my mind to, so its usually no trouble at all[/QUOTE]
Which is a good thing, once you move into more advance music being able to play with correct techinique will make learning the music much easier and less frustrating.

kurrpt 04-28-2006 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]Which is a good thing, once you move into more advance music being able to play with correct techinique will make learning the music much easier and less frustrating.[/QUOTE]



thats really the distinction ive tried to make. I realized some time ago that in order to play in a live situation and do it with any kind of professionalism, that a level of proficiency and accuracy would have to be attained. You could argue that i spend too much time on this endeavor, but its really helping me to get a handle on guitar overall

HAIL TRUE METAL 04-28-2006 12:55 PM

is there an article in guitar world with alexi? i thinik i saw somewhere that said that

repcak 04-28-2006 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]Which is a good thing, once you move into more advance music being able to play with correct techinique will make learning the music much easier and less frustrating.[/QUOTE]
thats what i'm looking forward ... i hope in some years i will look back and will say: "it was worth it, practising so much" :D

MRDuCran 04-28-2006 01:16 PM

[QUOTE=HAIL TRUE METAL]is there an article in guitar world with alexi? i thinik i saw somewhere that said that[/QUOTE]

I beleive the most recent one was April, but then again, Alexi isn't really one to play everything perfectly everytime live is he.

gmoneyguy 04-28-2006 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]thats what i'm looking forward ... i hope in some years i will look back and will say: "it was worth it, practising so much" :D[/QUOTE]
THe progress is gradual, but its noticeable. When I started classical guitar I didn't it was helping that much, but I jammed out with a friend who I hadn't seen in awhile and he commented on how much I had improved on guitar.

kurrpt 04-28-2006 02:26 PM

devil music...

you have to be my current favorite poster




<3 <3 :naughty:

repcak 04-28-2006 02:49 PM

the only improvement i see on the metronome :p

i now played for one hour and realized that i increased speed on most licks i was playing up to 20bpm!!
the one run you posted xxpages ago, Mitch, i was able to play at 60bpm clean, now i 'm suddenly up to 85bpm.
a sweep arpeggio i can play now at 100bpm, last week 80bpm :D

now i have a new goal: in 2months (summer)i plan to buy a new guitar + record stuff. i have 2months time to learn swamphell at 110bpm, then i will record it :thumb:

kurrpt 04-28-2006 02:51 PM

see how quickly your mood changes :D



the BEST thing ive learned is to stop caring about the BPM #, and more about your task at hand

I'm Charming 04-28-2006 02:56 PM

I'm rather sloppy or perfect. Depends on how I feel when I'm playing.

Sometimes I'll jam and try to keep it tight n perfect.

Sometimes, I'll just be hella sloppy.

When I'm learning stuff. I start at a crawl and work the speed up over a few hours.

HAIL TRUE METAL 04-28-2006 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I beleive the most recent one was April, but then again, Alexi isn't really one to play everything perfectly everytime live is he.[/QUOTE]
thats true. i saw a video on youtube when they performed sixpounder and he messed up a little on the solos

I'm Charming 04-28-2006 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=HAIL TRUE METAL]thats true. i saw a video on youtube when they performed sixpounder and he messed up a little on the solos[/QUOTE]


He played those fine at my show.

It was really sweet during the Bodom Beach Terror/ Bodom After Midnight preformance,,,

Alexi was doing the Bodom Beach Terror solo and he was holding his guitar at this really odd angle. haha. It was funny.

MRDuCran 04-28-2006 08:25 PM

Alexi has that new pose where he throws his guitar over his knee and props his foot up on the monitor, he must practise like that at home or something 'cause that's a fukkin weird angle to play at.

HAIL TRUE METAL 04-28-2006 09:44 PM

i got a vid of alexi messing up on swinging his guitar. is there a way i can upload it to the forums?


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