I've lost my Who mojo :upset:

Not me. I saw them last night. It was bitchin'.

[QUOTE=User Name;13749629]Not me. I saw them last night. It was bitchin'.[/QUOTE]

They're supposed to be getting even better by now. They were freaking amazing a month and a half ago in Calgary, imagine how good that tour is now.

[QUOTE=User Name;13749629]Not me. I saw them last night. It was bitchin'.[/QUOTE]

What'd you think of the new material they played? When I saw them I thought it was all great; I'm anxious to see what other people think.


I still haven't picked up [I]Endless Wire[/I] yet because I'm a tool.

I am now in love with Black Widow's Eyes and Man in a Purple Dress. Those are some killer songs.

Black Widow's Eyes is an awesome song. Among my favorites from the new album. Mike Post Theme is most likely my fave. Two Thousand Years, Its Not Enough, the extended We Got A Hit and Endless Wire, all are aces in my book...

I actually don't liek Mike Post Theme too much. It doesn't have enough balls to it, to be honest. Roger does a fantastic job, but it needed a heavier electric guitar part to it, the light acoustic doesn't cut it.

yeah. pete went heavy with the acoustic stuff on the album. i think MPT has some slamming bass and drums, though. and i love the chorus of "ba-ba-ba-bah's. or whatever it is they're saying. and yeah, Roger carries the whole thing, you are right.

'froggys i know you are a drummer. and drums is one of the things sadly missing from this record. a bit more gusto on the Wire & Glass songs perhaps, but meh. i read that not only was Zak unavailable for the album (stupid Oasis) but that Pete actually plays drums on 12 cuts! ok, we all know Pete plays drums he's a decent multi-instrumentalist. but he is no DRUMMER. As in Moon/Jones/Starkey/Huntington (Huntington being the Wire & Glass EP drummer). and whatever anyone thinks of Jones (i know you hate him for The Who) drums were still prominent on the albums he made with them. on the new album they're just kind of non-existent. i gotta bit of a problem with that.

anyway guys i'm starting to feel good about posting in this thread again. i still have some reservations about this new thing Rog & Pete have going after all is said and done with the new record, and especially after i saw the show. which was good, but for me something was missing that was there even a few years ago. i don't know if its worth delving into and posting about or if i should just keep discussing the new stuff and going forward as a fan with this band. its just the old Who seem very much gone now. a memory. dust in the wind. and that makes me sad :(

anyway, i'm away on business until Thursday. i'll post back up upon my return. take care, everyone.

:wave:

Who thread!

cant believe i have missed it. big fan!


(Quadrophenia should be a houshold name all over the world.. its simply a lesson in Rock'n'roll!)

i agree with the Quad thing. its my favorite album ever and yeah, it should be required listening in high school or something. math and english have nothing on it. 11,000 posts and you didn't know we were here? for shame, my good man!

well welcome to The Who thread. its a good place to be on the internets :)

One of the best for sure.

Yeah the album was heavily acoustic oriented. Now the acoustic based songs I like, such as Black Widow's Eyes and Purple Dress and all the others. Its just MPT is not an acoustic song in its arrangement, it doesn't sound too good with just an acoustic, it needs an electric in there. Especially during the "We're not strong enough..." bombastic Punk and Godfather style part, it just needed that electrifiedness to it.

As for the drumming, Zak does one song (can't remember, I'm at college right now burning time between classes), but I think Pete did a pretty decent job. One thing I didn't like is how he used a drum machine during Tea & Theatre, it just doesn't sound right, and doesn't really fit in with the song (when its just the two doing it live, I think its perfect), plus its a fricken drum machine.

Unlike you JxD, I wasn't a fan of The Who while John was still alive, so I personally don't know the magic of them being around (or seeing the three of them). Which is probably why I thought it was the greatest concert I had ever seen, because I wasn't around the live the magic and know what it was like before. Now I do feel the same way about The Beatles though, I was a huge fan when George was alive. If, for some odd reason Paul and Ringo got together, I would feel weird about it.

[QUOTE=JXD;13763177]i agree with the Quad thing. its my favorite album ever and yeah, it should be required listening in high school or something. math and english have nothing on it. 11,000 posts and you didn't know we were here? for shame, my good man!

well welcome to The Who thread. its a good place to be on the internets :)[/QUOTE]

:upset: i know, i guess i have noticed it around, just never joined it, and i wasnt online for a year :p

(and that year turned me on to John's playing, and from there in to The Who's music...)

[QUOTE=rockinbass17;13753797]What'd you think of the new material they played? When I saw them I thought it was all great; I'm anxious to see what other people think.


I still haven't picked up [I]Endless Wire[/I] yet because I'm a tool.[/QUOTE]

I thought the new material was pretty awesome. They did a really good job mixing old stuff with the new ablum. From memory, they did Fragments, Black Widow's Eyes, Man In The Purple Dress, Mike Post, and all of Wire and Glass.

They also played about three songs from Tommy, which was cool. Daltrey went through a stack of tambourines during Sparks.

They didn't play any of Quadrophenia, which I was really hoping to see (also my favorite album ever), but it was still one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Oh what a shame, at Hyde Park they played Love Reign O'er Me

But I was hoping for Doctor Jimmy :D

The Punk And The Godfather is always nice, too.

No Quad either at my show, but the Tommy encore was epic.

no Quad in favor of the new stuff. fine with me. didn't care much for the Tommy segment. never have....

[QUOTE=JXD;13781865]no Quad in favor of the new stuff. fine with me. didn't care much for the Tommy segment. never have....[/QUOTE]

yes, I know :evil:

Though they could have gotten away with Anyhow Anway Anywhere, I've never liked that song, probably my least favorite of the show.

I would have really liked to hear 4 or 5 songs from quad.

Man, the vocals on the live dvd that comes with the new who album or so bad. When I saw The Who, they sounded great. What's the deal?

Yeah, Pete didn't really impress me on the dvd either.

Is anyone who saw them gonna buy a copy of the show? I was thinking about it.

yeah they were better on the US tour then the European tour, which is the DVD that comes with Endless Wire. The DVD that I bought of my show is pretty good, and really shows the difference between actually being at the concert and watching it at home. I was in a practical orgasm at the concert, while watching the DVD is "yeah, its good, and awesome."

Well, of course nothing compares to being there at the live show. Man, I still get excited thinking about how incredible it was.

Here is a video of Pete playing 'Bye, bye Love' with some other bloke during last weekends 'Attic show'. You need flash player.

[url]http://picasaweb.google.com/iamozzie/AtticJamChicagoDec/photo#5006816279627767794[/url]

I stoped watching the DVD from Endless Wire.

I wasn't impressed at all.

[QUOTE=fwqhgads;13798653]I stoped watching the DVD from Endless Wire.

I wasn't impressed at all.[/QUOTE]

yeah it wasn't very good. I almost laughed when Roger started the bridge to WGFA like 8 bars early. :lol:

Sweet. Somebody posted up the Woodstock bootleg of a bunch of songs that I've never seen before from that show (and bits that we've seen on TKAA, but from a different angle). Not that great (seeing as they were all tripping) but its a great epic show.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDdgkHYpoQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GwKsCkEZxU&mode=related&search=[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN2m_3G6R6s&mode=related&search=[/url]

thanks for those, 'frroggys.

so far as the DVD, i remember a time not so long ago when The Who were incapable of putting on a listless show such as the one on the DVD. or even if its just the DVD production that is bad the band would come through, just like in all those piss poor bootlegs we watch. they are amazing. no more. now they have "on" nights and "off" nights. before, even an off night would put most other bands to shame. and i'm talking just four or so years ago. no longer. i like Endless Wire, I appreciate the tour, but part of me wishes now they wouldn't have done any of it.

man i don't now how to describe it. i love The Who, but part of me is sad and disappointed about the way they are ending it. or maybe its just the fact that its the end and it shows. i don't know? Rog has gotten so [i]old[/i]. in just a few years. whole different performer, can't swing the mic because of shoulder surgery, Pete has aged as well, his leaping not so high anymore, his guitar not as explosive. they are creaking, the band plays along, and thats The Who. or is it?

please, someone set me straight :(

If anything, Pete is more explosive then he's have been in awhile. I watch stuff from 10-15 years ago (the Quad and Tommy tours) and he's hardly as explosive as he is now.

But I agree with Roger.

I still think they kick ***, but after this they'll degrade to the point of mediocrity. This should be it (then again, that was said in 1982 ;) )

Yeah I just got Tommy.

Tommy is the most amazing album. Don't ever get the soundtrack to the movie, just get the album.

I saw The Who on the tour 3 days after Entwistle died a couple of years ago. They played MSG to a sold out audience and Pino Palladino did a fantastic job, even with struggling through My Generation. Mad props to Ringo's son for his drumming, but truly there is only one Keith Moon. They played all the classic greats. The only songs they played off Quad were Love Reign o'er Me and 5:15 which was fine with me but I would have loved to hear more.

The most impressive thing to me and to everyone I was with who saw them was how tight they were, as well how they seemed to epitomize that anthem rock band that was almost meant to play huge arenas. Songs like Baba O'Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again had everyone with goosebumps, and songs like The Kids are Alright and I Can See For Miles blew everyone out of their seats in crazy singalongs. The only bad songs were Eminence Front, but they did Athena too and it was surprisingly amazing. I was upset they didn't play Join Together.

Was it a poor performance of Eminence Front, or do you just not like the song?

I love Eminence Front.

Roger's voice has actually aged very well. Whenever he performs "Real Good Looking Boy" his vocals are great.

I also love Eminence Front.

they leave a lot of good stuff out of the sets. have for years. not such a big deal with all the new material they include now. unusual even for younger bands, but much else in the set remains the same. they could throw a curve ball in from time to time, but don't. and they have the musicians to do it. but meh...

i saw them at the Hollywood Bowl last month and unfortunately the set list was even tighter because they had lost their longtime keyboard player to an illness in his family. so a tech or two stood in. we got the hits, and the new stuff, Tommy encore. which i am tired of hearing and sounded a little tired on that night.

meh, 'froggys, pete is good still. but i tire of his newfound histrionics with all the excessive hammering and what not. i understand his sound has changed because of his hearing and he is still energetic, but he's also just going through the paces sometimes. understandable as he has been doing this a long time. but for me this end period has just seemed anti-climatic for a band like The Who. i'll get over it. i just feel like i'm starting with the band all over again and i don't know quite what to make of it. or them.

at thanksgiving my brother in laws father was in town. nice guy. mellow, warm, generous. tall, lean, balding, graying, 60 years old. ready for retirement in a few years. we put on a Beatles album and he started to bob his head a little, got into the music. i can see that. but the way he was standing there in his black jeans and shoes for an instant reminded me of Pete. and i tried to imagine him with a guitar strapped on, leaping in the air, windmilling. and i just couldn't get the picture. didn't seem right, didn't really fit. i kind of see pete the same, now. something doesn't quite fit. god bless him, but like i said i hope this is truly the end of "the leaping years" and The Who for pete. time to move on. they have given us much since the return in 1999. but this is it, IMO. and with John gone, as good as Pino is, on stage they suffer for it in sound and energy. i was looking at some stuff with John from 2000 on thewhotour.com and man, he was not to be replaced. he brought so much. meh....i am sad, but i'll work it out.

New album is worst Pete Townshend record ever, however fact is still that Pete is now clearly more inspired about playing live than previous 2000 tours.... that's because of the new songs.... 2000 tour was meaningles bland
tour and Pete has far more energy now than then. Another sad fact is also that Pino sounds far superior than John did because of that disgusting overprocessed sound John ended up using (why on earth he did that !!).

And why the heck people still expect Pete to leap/windmill now, totally pathetic and ridiculous, would much rather see him stop that complately and just play... same with Roger's mic stuff.


But then again, I think Pete should have done solo record/tour, might have been actually GOOD record....

[QUOTE=JXD;13817144]thanks for those, 'frroggys.

so far as the DVD, i remember a time not so long ago when The Who were incapable of putting on a listless show such as the one on the DVD. or even if its just the DVD production that is bad the band would come through, just like in all those piss poor bootlegs we watch. they are amazing. no more. now they have "on" nights and "off" nights. before, even an off night would put most other bands to shame. and i'm talking just four or so years ago. no longer. i like Endless Wire, I appreciate the tour, but part of me wishes now they wouldn't have done any of it.

man i don't now how to describe it. i love The Who, but part of me is sad and disappointed about the way they are ending it. or maybe its just the fact that its the end and it shows. i don't know? Rog has gotten so [i]old[/i]. in just a few years. whole different performer, can't swing the mic because of shoulder surgery, Pete has aged as well, his leaping not so high anymore, his guitar not as explosive. they are creaking, the band plays along, and thats The Who. or is it?

please, someone set me straight :([/QUOTE]

Pete's windmilling is like the coolest thing about him. If he drops that, then.....****.

hey guys my desktop is fuc.kin' awesome :)

[url]http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6485/wttsz8.jpg[/url]

woah, now that ****ing rocks. :thumb:

i thought it was pretty freakin great myself. its like art. captures the moment perfectly. man The Who ARE beautiful. i think i'm getting my Who mojo back. :)

here's a clean copy for you and anyone who wants it. looks like Woodstock:

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