hey..PwF seems to be taking care of things here just fine....expect (like last year) a clean thread on my birthday

Look who's checking in :).

who...me?

:) Yep. The father of the cymbal finder :p. Good to see you around here again.

Yeah playwithfire, I've been meaning to say nice job to you. It's not easy giving cymbal advice over and over again.

I got lazy and stopped.

:lol:

how do you think I feel :lol:

i'm back though...and ready for anything

(except for people looking for weird experimental sounds....i'll just say "noiseworks" to you...and NOTHING else)

Yeah man, everyone needs a break from time to time, except Jim apparently, I've taken breaks from the forum before :thumb:. You just come back feeling refreshed :p.

And thanks for the thumbs up Plan B.

like about the time you came back, i left :lol:

and the funny thing is, either way, we're always on MSN

Yeah I know man. MSN can be a lot more relaxing than MX though, chatting to friends instead of dealing with a million and one questions of "What's the difference between X and Y?" and "What's the best?!" or "How do I do this?" or "Should I do this?", etc. :p. It can be frustrating sometimes.

not so much frustrating....as it is repetitive.

Eventually I begin to call them one and the same ;). It's like "Why won't you kids listen? arrrgh! Or if you won't listen... search! search dammit! search! This is the 18th time today that I have explained the differences between the Iron Cobras... the Eliminators... and the DW 5000s... ARRRGH" :lol:.

Hey, I bought a cymbal pack on Ebay:

10" splash, 14" hihats, 16" crash, 20" ride - Solar cymbals

14" Hi-hats, 16" crash - zildjian... sorry I forget what series.

All used, but in very good condition.

Was this a good buy for $150 total?

O, and a cymbal holder...

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]Hey, I bought a cymbal pack on Ebay:

10" splash, 14" hihats, 16" crash, 20" ride - Solar cymbals

14" Hi-hats, 16" crash - zildjian... sorry I forget what series.

All used, but in very good condition.

Was this a good buy for $150 total?

O, and a cymbal holder...[/QUOTE]

solars suck....even if they were new.

Depends what the Zildjians were really, but I would guess ZBT or ZXT.

trillian is nice, i have aim and icq in one program (and msn and yim if i choose to sign up for those)

Okay, so I've got b8s, and an 18" vault crash right now. I'm looking to upgrade; I'm thinking along these lines:
14" HHX Stage Hats
17" AA Medium Thin Crash
21" AAX Stage Ride

For one, what do you think of my choices? Will they blend fine?
For two, how much difference does finish make? I was thinking that because I'm not going so much for the pingy/cutting side of the spectrum, I should go with Traditional finish. Will it make a difference in the sound of the cymbals, or am I crazy?

1) Yes
2) Brilliant finish tend to be slightly darker. I would personally choose Brilliant, but its up to you. Finish will make no difference to the degree of wash or ping (I presume).

Awesome, thanks. I don't understand though...brilliant finish=darker? Interesting...that may help my cymbals blend a bit better.
Any others with some input? It's muchly appreciated.

Oh, and by the way, I'm sort of in between the HHX Groove hats and Stage Hats. I like that the sound of the Groove hats, but they seem a little quiet, and I am looking for a bit more pedal "chick" power than what the groove hats seem to have. I AM however going off of the sabian recordings, so I'm not 100%.

Yeah, I always thought it would be the other way round too.

The difference between brilliant and traditional is basically inaudible, do don't worry about it.

Ah, okay. Anyone about the hats?

Groove hats rule, try them out in person.

I probably won't get the chance to try them out in person...'tis why this is so difficult. Thanks for the help, though.

brilliant = darker, although like PWF said, barely noticable....so more reason to buy Regular finish :)

^I was thinking Traditional :) .....I'm still so stuck between groove hats and stage hats....woe is me!

Traditional are the nicest man, no reason not to go with them :thumb:.

man..i hear ya on Groove vs stage....they both nice

buy both ;)

:lol: It's like me with New Beats vs. Mastersounds. I'm gonna buy the New Beats soon and have both :p.

Guys, how about this:


Groove mains right here -------------------------------- Stage X-Hats over here


Amazing!

Yes, yes. :):cool:.

How are K/Z 13" hi-hats? I am considering some for xmas to replace my terrible hats

Okay, I'm still stuck. I play a little more rock-style, so I was thinking stage, but then I also want a very versatile hat, which everyone says the groove hats are all about...god damn.

Leaning towards groove hats at the moment. I'll probably end up going with them.

definatly the grooves. the weight setup is all the same...the only think i can find different, is the lathed bells, and maybe a shallower hammer mark.

Awesome. I was curious about the weights, I was going to ask and that was pretty much going to make the decision. Groove hats it is.

Hey, I've got relatives in New Brunswick. Fredricton to be exact. It's gorgeous there. How cold has it gotten over there?

[QUOTE=ZildjianFrk89]Genere: Hardcore Punk

So I was thinking of getting a 16" Crash, 18" Crash, 20" Ride, 14" Hats, 18" China, and 12" Splash?

What kind of cymbals should I get?[/QUOTE]

Do you think a splash would fit well in that genre? Maybe you should get a 14" Crash instead, it'd better/louder for the accents you would use the splash for. Try 16" AAXplosion/A Custom Crash, 18" AA Medium Thin/A Med. Thin Crash, 21" A Sweet Ride (really works well in that genre) or a 19" Z Custom Thrash Ride, 14" A New/Quick Beats, AAX Stage Hats, HH Bright Hats, or 13" K/Z Dyno Beats ... 18" Oriental China Trash would probably be the best bet, possibly an AA Fast Chinese also.

Chine wise, Whats the sabian solor 18" or the B8 14" mini like?? I'm looking at the zildjian ZBT 18" aswell.

I'm looking for a sharp loud and distinct sound!

[QUOTE=Bowler]Chine wise, Whats the sabian solor 18" or the B8 14" mini like?? I'm looking at the zildjian ZBT 18" aswell.

I'm looking for a sharp loud and distinct sound![/QUOTE]

Solar - Rubbish. And I mean, rubbish. The Solar crash sounds more like a china.

ZBT - Never heard, the rest of the range isn't wonderful, but B8 metal and ZBT construction techniques probably lend themselves to loud and abrasive china cymbals.

B8 - bobby__johnny is always praising the B8Pro china, so I should imagine it's pretty good. Seems to be what youy're looking for.

Might want to also try out Wuhan/Stagg, dpending on whether you're in US or UK respectively.

If you can save enough cash, I'm a big fan of the HHX Chinese, but that's quite a step up financially.

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]Do you think a splash would fit well in that genre? Maybe you should get a 14" Crash instead, it'd better/louder for the accents you would use the splash for. Try 16" AAXplosion/A Custom Crash, 18" AA Medium Thin/A Med. Thin Crash, 21" A Sweet Ride (really works well in that genre) or a 19" Z Custom Thrash Ride, 14" A New/Quick Beats, AAX Stage Hats, HH Bright Hats, or 13" K/Z Dyno Beats ... 18" Oriental China Trash would probably be the best bet, possibly an AA Fast Chinese also.[/QUOTE]Of course a splash would fit well in that genre... they can fit anywhere man. A 12" A splash would suit him fine.

I think a smaller crash would fit alot better, or a mini (12-14") china.

Are you assuming hardcore punk means there's constantly 110 dB smashing around and you need some thick or huge cymbals to cut? A 12" splash can fit fine in metal, but all these companies put out garbage like AA Metal X, Z Custom etc, when you don't need splashes that thick, or a 14" one like the Z Customs.

He would also be able to use an A, or A Custom/AA/AAX in other genres as well.