So are you all loving the new album or what?

Do you think it will do as well as Mezmerize?

I really like the new album. I havn't really though whether it will do better than mesmerize, but I suspect not. Hypnotize the single hasn't had the same impact that BYOB had.

Probably not. The hype seems to be down now for hypnotize.

[QUOTE=Kyle]I really like the new album. I havn't really though whether it will do better than mesmerize, but I suspect not. Hypnotize the single hasn't had the same impact that BYOB had.[/QUOTE]


When BYOB came out here nobody was really into it. Then it went crazy
when they rolled through town. I think it will do fine. but probably not as
well as mez

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]But what if you want to use a low C?[/QUOTE]
Or an A2? Or a D1? You see what I mean, you can just keep wanting to go lower and lower and lower but then you're not playing guitar anymore. Just get a bass or something. Idk, this is a pretty useless debate actually, and I apologize. My point is just that the instrument has limits and the art lies in finding interesting ways to get around those, not just forcing the instrument lower or whatever.

[QUOTE=mutant!]Or an A2? Or a D1? You see what I mean, you can just keep wanting to go lower and lower and lower but then you're not playing guitar anymore. Just get a bass or something. Idk, this is a pretty useless debate actually, and I apologize. My point is just that the instrument has limits and the art lies in finding interesting ways to get around those, not just forcing the instrument lower or whatever.[/QUOTE]
....unless you want a lower sound. I just dn't see the problem with tuning lower if you can acquire a sound which you really like. It has worked for Daron throughout his career so why change it. When Slash changed his tuning down for Velvet Revolver the results wern't good.

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Slash only tuned down for two songs, and that was because Dave Kushner wrote the riffs.[/QUOTE]*Hides from SOP's superior G'n'R related knowledge.

Slayer's "Metal Storm/Face the Slayer" is one of the few songs of theirs in standard tuning, but it's just as heavy as anything else they play, and I like it a lot more too :)

Anyway, I listened to Hypnotize and was quite pleased with it. Needs a few more listens to see where I'll rank it among the rest of their albums, but my stupid CD player keeps stopping all the time for no reason :mad::mad::mad:


I need an iPod.

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm, but it also allows the instruments to go deeper than they could before, which adds to systems darker tone

try playing a system song drop tuned, then normally and you will see what i mean[/QUOTE]

Well, they'll have they're dropped tuned guitars for older songs. I think it will be quite intersting. Besides they have strayed away from a heavier sound. I was saying to my friends when we were listening to it, they should do an album like the interlude from U-Fig(the lighter, middle-eastern sounding part). That would be really cool.

Well so far Hypnotize beats Mezmerise. Vicinity of Obscenity brings back memories of s/t.

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]In a Guitar World, Daron said that the next album, will most likely be in normal tuning.:thumb:[/QUOTE]

:confused:

That sounds like BS, You got some sort of link to the article to confirm this?

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]mutant, I think you're still missing the point.[/QUOTE]
Probably, yes.

To Kyle: if you want a lower sound, let the bass do it. No matter how much you downtune the guitar, the bass is still carrying the low end, isn't it? So rather let the bass play more. Say for example you're playing a D power chord in drop D - you could just as well be in standard tuning, only playing the A and the upper D, and let the bass play the low D and the A above it to support the bottom end. You're still playing a D power chord, but you're letting the lower instrument handle the lower notes. Make sense? Most of my argument is based on the jazz school of thought: that the bass carries the harmonies and the guitar is only there to fill out the middle and upper range.

[U]In conclusion[/U] (ie I don't want to discuss this further because evidently no-one agrees with me): My point is that every instrument should play where it was built to play. Let the bass handle the low-end stuff; give him an overdrive pedal and you should be fine. The guitar is only there to support.

[B]I'm finished[/B], if the rest of you want to keep debating, go for it. I won't.

[QUOTE]It's whiny, annoying, really gets under your skin, and sounds like Tom DeLonge on Blink's first CD.[/QUOTE]

i said this a couple of months ago about mezmerize and some system fans tore the **** out of me telling me i was full of ****. good to see someone agrees

i realise hypnotize is quite religious

My computer won't recognize the CD side of the dual disc and I'm getting extremely pissed. Whatever, I'll just have to do some line-in recording with my mp3 player.

Oh, and I'm on the fence with my opinion of the CD at the moment.

I just bought Hypnotize yesterday and so far I'm really lovin' it.
It was already said but that "banana terrcotta pie" song is awesome!

So do I start listening to mezmerise and then listen to hypnotize. Or do I do it the other way around? Someone thinks that the 2 soldier sides go together.

I heard they go together too...

If you have both Cds on iTunes, because it fades in the next song, then maybe it will sound like the one song?

[QUOTE=DuncMaster V2]I heard they go together too...

If you have both Cds on iTunes, because it fades in the next song, then maybe it will sound like the one song?[/QUOTE]
Soldier Side on Mesmerise is basically the last minute of Soldier Side on Hypnotise.

Does anyone but me think the DVD thing that's on the Dualdisk for Hypnotise that you can get is completely horrible?

[QUOTE=Skit]:confused:

That sounds like BS, You got some sort of link to the article to confirm this?[/QUOTE]
Like I said in was in a guitar world. I'll try to scan and put it in here.

[QUOTE=cigaro88]i realise hypnotize is quite religious[/QUOTE]
I don't believe so, and I'm a christian. Maybe I'm worng though. I have been wrong in the past.

[QUOTE=mutant!]
IMO: drop-tuning is pretentious and a cheap way to sound metal-y. True musicianship is shown when you can:

1) sound heavy without distortion;
2) play metal in standard tuning; and
3) adapt to the instrument instead of adapting the instrument to yourself.

/prepares [I]+5 shield of flame resistance[/I][/QUOTE]


That doesn't really apply to SOAD. They play a lot of complicated riffs, with and without distortion. Sometimes it will seem "pretentious and cheap", like in BYOB, whereas in other songs, you really can't even tell, like Radio/Video. I think its just part of there sound, and the guitars tuned down sound good with Serj's voice. Would you say tuning up is cheating as well? Or getting into open tunings? I wouldn't. It all matters how it is used.

I've really stopped arguing, but valid point: I would consider tuning up, or any other tuning for the sake of convenience, cheating. EXCEPT open tunings for slide guitar. That is the [I]only[/I] exception [size=1]I can think of right now[/size].

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]Like I said in was in a guitar world. I'll try to scan and put it in here.


I don't believe so, and I'm a christian. Maybe I'm worng though. I have been wrong in the past.[/QUOTE]
I dont think its reglious. I am pretty sure that if cigaro (the user) is referring to soldier side, that soldier side is about being sent to war.

Viscenity of Obscenity rocked my world. SOAD have some good concepts, but they cant seem to get away from easy written cliche riffs (and sometimes lyrics) most of the time.

Just listened to the whole cd, I have to say Vicinity of Obscurity is just a sweet song, ace! I like the cd, I can see myself buying a copy.

[QUOTE=fuzzyhair]I dont think its reglious. I am pretty sure that if cigaro (the user) is referring to soldier side, that soldier side is about being sent to war.[/QUOTE]

I know I said I didn't think it was christian.

I'm probably gonna go out this weekend and buy both albums and have a SOAD
Party. I've been meaning to buy mezmerize sense it came out. I just havn't gotten around to it

I have had Hypnotize since it was released and I love the album. I pretty much love all their albums whenever I am in the mood to listen to them, sadly which isn't much, but they are all great.

I don't know the song titles for any of the tracks because I haven't paid attention to them much in my cd player. I like track 2,3,4,11. I need to hear the others again but yeah, those stuck out.

i think hypnotize is excellent. definitely a good step of a new style of music cuz i think it sounds like an in between of S/T and Mezmerize. i wouldnt really say the cds very religious just because they sing about God. i think its cool that they do tho. we need more bands singing about God rather than 666 and whatnot.

[QUOTE=+zero+]i think hypnotize is excellent. definitely a good step of a new style of music cuz i think it sounds like an in between of S/T and Mezmerize. i wouldnt really say the cds very religious just because they sing about God. i think its cool that they do tho. [b]we need more bands singing about God rather than 666 and whatnot.[/b][/QUOTE]

there's a whole genre of music for that. I don't think a band "should" sing about anything in particular; they should just write about whatever's important to them (unless it's cliched and nobody wants to hear about it anymore, that crap needs to stop).