You know, the last thing I wanted to do was discourage anyone from majoring in music because of the double bass.

Not all colleges are likethat though.. but they are probably few and far between. Which is why I SAID to check out the colleges and their options. And I also SAID that a good portion allow auditions on electric, so long as you understand that you will really be learning the double. And I SAID that most colleges have a few of their own Double's that you can use. That is what I SAID. :p

Now, onto the topic of why there is no electric bass major....

*sigh*

The two main forms of music are Classical and Jazz. Both are difficult. Both are equal (no fighting which one is harder.) Both take great dicipline... and while the two have some different aspects, they compliment each other. The well rounded well educated musician knows both.

All other music decends from these two genres.

Now... we know there is no "rock music" major. What would you learn from it? What would be core class elements? Theory I suppose, but it might be somewhat limited... Lessons... Music history...

Ok... now... you can get those things in either a Classical Major or a Jazz Major.

People who are mainly interested in playing the main stream forms of music aren't looking to go to college... college wont help them get "big." That piece of paper saying you graduated from rock school isn't going to make a record company sign you.. it's not going to get you gigs... ( :lol: Can you imagine going into a bar or club with your band's demo to submitt it and the guy wants to see your degree in rock?! )

I'm not trying to bash rock or whatnot. I'm giving you the reason why there isn't main stream music as a major.

As for the electric bass.. it is not a "traditional" instrument... which cannot be used in classical music (unless 21st century + ) and is used only in some subgenres of jazz...
Also, if you can play the double, you can play electric. Are there some stylistic elements missing? Yes... slap and pop... which is not too hard to learn. And even the double bass teachers at colleges can play electric, and I'm sure most wouldn't mind you forgoing a double lesson for an electric lesson. I know a few of my classmates did that.

I will say this... there is a benefit in majoring in Jazz over classical. (Mind you I did both.) At most colleges, the jazz major requires you to also have classical training. So... you get two lessons a week. One in Jazz, one in classical. THAT is technically an awesome deal... most people hate it and don't see the point.. but I can. There are certain aspects of classical that jazz can't teach you and vice versa.

LR

[QUOTE=Stuff]best. band. ever.
[/QUOTE]


I told you. I told you all!

I can't learn theory on my own, I've tried. I *so* need a class, and the local community college (where I now work, YAY) is offering one in the fall- but its at 1pm in the afternoon, during my shift. Why oh why couldn't it start at 230p????

Crap. Anybody know where/how I could find a decent bass teacher? I live in BFE Brainerd MN, fercryin'outloud! *sobs*

^^ Maybe you and theory where never meant to be (?).

Meh. I figure if I can bend my brain around hexadecimal, binary, IP addressing and variable length subnet masks, I can learn theory. I'm a multimedia learner though- I need sound and interaction with another human being and not just a book.

[i]Edited to add: w00t! 100 posts! :lol:[/i]

^^ Do you have AIM (Aol instant messenger)? xBassVirtuosox answers theory questions and all just because he has nothing better to do, so maybe you can learn with him

400 posts to 3,000 :(

3 more until 100 for me. :thumb:

I guess music is an option for me again, but only if it is cost effective for me, since cost is my main concern.

Check out [url]www.musiciansconnection.com[/url] That's where I found mine, but I'm not sure if many are listed there. I searched the internet for a private instructor and it took me about 2 months to find one. And it's a little expensive, but it's better than a class.





joe

Light Raven you are so insightful. I've read most of your articles and I think I just need to thank you for all your knowledge you take time to share with the bass forum. :)


*a[I]s[/I]s kiss*

[QUOTE=JoeDaddio]Check out [url]www.musiciansconnection.com[/url] That's where I found mine, but I'm not sure if many are listed there. I searched the internet for a private instructor and it took me about 2 months to find one. And it's a little expensive, but it's better than a class.





joe[/QUOTE]
Thanks Joe, I'll check that out. I appreciate it!

Any time. :thumb:


I can help out sometimes... when I'm not in a bitter mood. Which isn't often ;)



Now.. evreyone go to my poll and vote for your favorite Charles Mingus song!





joe

Casual Stuff and more.. Part 4
 

Well, here we are, part 4.

My second week from hell has essentially ended.. with me sitting here wondering where the hell is my BF (I haven't heard from him since Wed. and today is his birthday... ).

So to recap this week: My computer at work broke, leaving me without the music I need to finish the CDs for my songwriters class... in which the CDs are late, and I'm in deep **** because of it...

I continued to get yelled at for the things I was getting yelled at last week. (I mean come on... I got the point the first time)

Two employees were fired at work, which is half our retail staff. Which means, now I stopped getting yelled at... and asked to work more.. and cover major assage. Which is ok, cause I need the money. Because all of my private students except one dropped for the summer leaving me $300 short each month.

THEN.. my brother got fired on wednesday night... the ****ers... that job almost killed him.. working about 90-100 hours a week (there is only 168 hours a week.. and typically, you work about 40 hours a week in a full timejob..) He basically did all the hard work and then, when the store wasn't as productive as they hoped (after only being open for 4 months) they ditched him.

And the cleaning continued.. cause the realtor came today. Which turned out ok. :)

So.. what is everyone up to this weekend? I'm... you guessed it.. working. :(

Hm... well.. I'm going to leave this thread as a "getting to know you" thread. Answer the following questions :p

Name: (Doesn't have to be a full name for all you paranoid people)
Age:
Location:
Job/Occupation:
Instruments other than bass played:
Years playing bass, etc:
How many instruments do you have?:
What's cool about where you live?:
Do you have a car? : (Model, color, name?)
Do you have pets?:
What's in your room?:
Where do you see yourself in 5 years?

:D

LR

Andy Garcia (Not the actor :| )
17
Perris Ca
School / leeching off parents :p
Guitar , drums , triangle
since begginging of the year??
I live in the boonies so there no traffic or nothin, nice n quet all the time
I have a car, but no lic yet.... 1981 Chevy Corvette silver... so nice :p
No pets. :(
There uhhh a computer, a tv , some basses, a guitar... some cloths...??
I see myself turning wrenches under mercedes benz's in 5 years :naughty:

Name:Alpo
Age:16
Location:Kebtucky
Job/Occupation:Student/Work on a farm
Instruments other than bass played:A little drums
Years playing bass, etc:almost 1
How many instruments do you have?:2
What's cool about where you live?:Good hunting and fishing and partying
Do you have a car? :a 88 dodge omni... :sad:
Do you have pets?:yep...a dog and some fish
What's in your room?:Just normals day beside my Katana Collection
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? prolly dead

Name: Chris
Age: 15
Location: Richmond, VA
Job: Nothing as of now, i'm applying to Sam Ash.
Instruments other than bass played: Guitar and Tuba
Years Playing Bass: about a year and a half
How Many Instruments Do You have: 4
Whats Cool About Where You Live: we have about the 9th highest murder count in America, hicks get violent.
Do you have a car: saving up for an old Mustang.
Do you have pets: yes, a snake, dog, cat, and ferret.
Whats In Your Room: Bed, bass, amp, lots of pornography.
Where do you see yourself in 5 years: I want to go to medical school.

HA dog meat.. man you wouldnt be sad about that car if it was a Omni GLHS :naughty:

Name: Jake Ramsley
Age: 16
Location: Massachussetts
Job/Occupation: Nothing "official"
Instruments other than bass played:
Years playing bass, etc: About 6 years now.
How many instruments do you have?: 2 basses, 6 guitars (Brother's)
What's cool about where you live?: I hate this town. Being deemed the best bassist because I can play Higher Ground isn't too pleasant.
Do you have a car? : White Jetta, taken from my mom.
Do you have pets?: Yes, 1 cat is all that's left.
What's in your room?: Bed is the most exciting thing.
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Enlisted in the army.

im sorry to hear about your long week. id like to say i know where youre at but i doubt i do.


jon O. ;) and im 15
i do sound and light crew at an arts center in town, and anything involving physical labor i get payed for (right now im a drywaller)
sax and guitar
2 years on bass. 1.5 on guitar
i have 5 instruments and play 4 regularly
people are nice and we have space out here in KY
i dont drive yet but i have only two reasons anyhow (band practice and my gal)
i have a dog and 4 birds (2 died a month ago one from cancer and one from a biotic infection)
my room has my cds, bed, TV, and sentimental things that i cant replace. i dont pend much time in my room
in five years i see myself studying to be a pirate (lawyer) so i can get a house and provide for the women ive mentioned before.

[b]Name:[/b] Heather
[b]Age:[/b] 24
[b]Location:[/b] Philadelphia, PA, (USA)
[b]Job/Occupation:[/b] I teach... lots of things. Bass, Guitar, Double Bass, Piano, Theory, Songwriting, Musical Funtime and Little Mozarts (young children based programs).. I also do music retail, lesson cooridination, and I write the newsletter for work, including doing the graphics.. and soon I'll be doing their website. ...... I think I need a raise! :upset:

[b]Instruments other than bass played:[/b] Double Bass, Guitar, Piano, Flute, Voice

[b]Years playing bass, etc:[/b] 14 years (will be 15 in september) for DB, 10 years bass guitar, 6 years piano, guitar is self taught.. guess I started when I was 7.. but didn't get the cooridination until after playing the DB.

[b]How many instruments do you have?:[/b] hmmm... 5 guitars, 1 Bass Guitar, 1 Double Bass, 1 Flute, 1 Dijeridoo, 1 violin, 1 keyboard... I think that's it.

[b]What's cool about where you live?:[/b] In Philadelphia, because we live in rowhomes that are attached in blocks... when it's nice outside, we all sit out on our steps and talk with one another... and have impromptu parties.. watch the kids play football (I've got a dent in my car to prove it.. :upset:).. and we have block parties.. where we shut the street down to traffic.. remove all the cars, and have a massive party!

[b]Do you have a car? :[/b] (Model, color, name?) 2004 PT Cruiser, Color is Plum.. Name is The Purple People Eater. (My friend named it.. cause everytime she sees it, she starts singing "there was a one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater..." ... My brother wants me to have teeth painted around the grill... now why would I do something like that to make my car stand out to cops?!?! (I am a speeder... ).. license plate reads: LT RAVEN :p

[b]Do you have pets?:[/b]Oh god yes. We have 3 cats: Mr. Morgan, who's nickname is FatCat, because he weighs like 25 pounds. We Have Tootsie, who's nickname is "F[i]u[/i]cker The Cat" Cause he's really annoying. And We have Fine (pronounced Fee-nay) who's nickname is Bitch Cat, or Peenay (because everytime my dad pisses her off, she goes and pees in his laundry :lol: ) The we have a dog, Dakota.. I call him Boo (shortened from boo-boo nose.. he likes to play with the cats and well... sometimes they don't like being dragged around by their tails...).. australian shepard.. Best. Dog. Ever. Then I have a Rabbit.. Jazz.. he's a Giant Checker... 15 pounder. We just call him Jazz Bunny, or Spazzy Jazzy... Then there is the Turtle.. Beetlejuice. Nothing interesting about him...

[b]What's in your room?:[/b] Everything I own. There is not one square inch of my walls that isn't covered with something. I have hundreds of books, hundreds of pieces of music, hundreds of CDs... and no place to put them except in cool looking storage boxes and egg crate things.

[b]Where do you see yourself in 5 years?:[/b] Well, I hope to have gotten my masters in music therapy and practicing it somewhere.

Woo.. that was longer than I thought it would be :)

LightRaven

[B]Name:[/B] Danny/Daniel
[B]Age:[/B] 16 in a few days :D
[B]Location:[/B] Yuma, AZ
[B]Job/Occupation:[/B] None yet
[B]Instruments other than bass played:[/B] Percussion, guitar, keyboard (learning)
[B]Years playing bass, etc:[/B] I've played bass for about 2, drums for about 4.
[B]How many instruments do you have?:[/B] Washburn XB120 LH, Johnson P-Bass copyLH,
Agile Acoustic/Electric Guitar LH, and my Brice V2 6 string should be here Monday.
[B]What's cool about where you live?:[/B] Um......... Nothing. Its hot. No real music scene.
[B]Do you have a car? : (Model, color, name?)[/B] 1983 Yamaha XT 500 (motorcycle in case you don't know)
[B]Do you have pets?:[/B] 11 year old Chow-Chow, and an evil 6 month old golden retriever/black lab mix.
[B]What's in your room?:[/B] TV, Bass, guitar, books, bed, computer/desk, stereo, lotsa soda cans.
[B]Where do you see yourself in 5 years?[/B] San Diego, or L.A., with my band.

I'm in the same boat as you this weekend, LR- working at the Computer Help Desk at the hospital as we speak, and day shift Sat and Sun.

As for the getting to know you... Okay! I'll play. :D

[b]Name:[/b] Given: Michelle Lynn. But everyone calls me Shelly or Shel.
[b]Age:[/b] 32
[b]Location:[/b] North Central MN (aka Brainerd)
[b]Job/Occupation:[/b] 1) Computer Lab Assistant at local community college, and 2)Computer Help Desk at local hospital
[b]Instruments other than bass played:[/b] a little bit of piano, voice
[b]Years playing bass, etc:[/b] Bass: less than 1. Voice: entire life. :D
[b]How many instruments do you have?:[/b] one bass, one piano
[b]What's cool about where you live?:[/b] I live on a lake, and see bald eagles and ospreys and loons and snapping turtles and deer and fish and water lilies and sunsets and rainbows and moonrises and stars....
[b]Do you have a car?:[/b] 1994 Mitsubishi Diamante, green, leather interior, power EVERYTHING. I love my car.
[b]Do you have pets?:[/b] Three cats: Duran (13 yrs), Boots (12 yrs), and Pepper (18 yrs?).
[b]What's in your room?:[/b] My bed, dresser, mirror, bureau, night tables, some lamps, my clothes, a lot of jewelry and a cheesy little pine storage bench.
[b]Where do you see yourself in 5 years?[/b] Hopefully advanced enough to be comfortable in a band situation, but still living in Brainerd (I really like it, just ignore me when I complain about being in BFE nowhere!). Down to one job, and not living in my parents basement any more! (Don't ask, its a long story.)

Are you bored yet? :lol:

Name: Aaron Michaels
Age:14
Location: Frederick, MD
Job/Occupation:work for >>> [url]www.GreatBigStuff.com[/url]
Instruments other than bass played: guitar
Years playing bass, etc: 3
How many instruments do you have?: 4
What's cool about where you live?: uh......not really that much
Do you have a car? : i'll be getting my dad's old civic
Do you have pets?: a dog named bentley
What's in your room?: my acoustic guitar and stereo
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? in a successful band...i hope

that sucks heather, except for the extra money:p

I worked 64 hours one week, then next wee 14 hours in one day(with no break), then I left my job.

[u]Name:[/u] Rob
[u]Age:[/u] 16
[u]Location: [/u]Mexico
[u]Job/Occupation:[/u] student/musician
[u]Instruments other than bass played: [/u]guitar, drums(I dont have a drumset but I know how to play OK, I had lessons for a year)
[u]Years playing bass, etc: [/u]2years on bass, 2 weeks on electric guitar, 7years on acoustic guitar
[u]How many instruments do you have?:[/u] 4
[u]What's cool about where you live?:[/u] I live near to the coast
[u]Do you have a car? :[/u] Blue(at least it used to be blue) For Explorer 92
[u]Do you have pets?:[/u] well, there is a lizzard in my room and it eats my insects:p
[u]What's in your room?:[/u]a lizzard, computer, bass, guitars, diplomas, my bed.
[u]Where do you see yourself in 5 years?[/u] college, drinking beer, I dont know

Name: friends call me Traylor(last name)
Age: 19
Location: Roanoke, VA
Job/Occupation: Waiting tables
Instruments other than bass played: does beating on trashcans count?
Years playing bass, etc: 1
How many instruments do you have?: 1, yamaha rbx 260
What's cool about where you live?: nothing... except lots of partying, since it's the only thing to do
Do you have a car? : 96' Honda Accord, white, fully loaded with 6 disc cd changer... it's my baby
Do you have pets?: yes, the best dog in the world... he's lazy as **** just like me, so basically we chill together all day.. he's a basset hound by the way.
What's in your room?: my bed
Where do you see yourself in 5 years?: hopefully starting my own business.. but we all know how that goes...

Name: Jany Eno
Age:17
Location:Fredericksburg, va
Job/Occupation: :(
Instruments other than bass played: guitar
Years playing bass, etc: 1 year on bass 2 months on the guitar
How many instruments do you have?: 3
What's cool about where you live?: hmmm... can't think of anything right now..
Do you have a car? : hell no.. :( don't even have my learners
Do you have pets?: no :(
What's in your room?: my play things
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? working construction :(

Name: jeff
Age:17
Location: Bel Air, MD
Job/Occupation: nothing :(
Instruments other than bass played: nothing
Years playing bass, etc: 2.5
How many instruments do you have?: 3
What's cool about where you live?: hasim rahman is from here
Do you have a car? : no
Do you have pets?:yes, a yellow lab named Barney
What's in your room?: tv, comp, 2 basses, acoustic guitar, lots of cds, and even a bed
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? senior in college

[QUOTE=NOfentoozlerFX]Name: Aaron Michaels
Job/Occupation:work for >>> [url]www.GreatBigStuff.com[/url]
[/QUOTE]
man, that stuff is cool, do you take international orders? and is it expensive to ship to mexico?

Name: Gavin (call me Gav)
Age: 16
Location: Saugus, Mass (just outside of Boston)
Job/Occupation: Student, pyrotechnician, pyromaniac
Instruments other than bass played: guitar, piano (a little), recorder (heh)
Years playing bass, etc: 5 on bass, 4 on guitar, 2 on piano
How many instruments do you have?: 3 (bass, guitar, crappy piano)
What's cool about where you live?: I live in a development that's down the street from a mall...yeah, Saugus is really just one big *** highway (no joke, it is).
Do you have a car? : Yes, 2003 white Jeep Wrangler with every option.
Do you have pets?: Yep, a dog (Darriff, golden retriever, Darriff means "Golden Red" in Gaelic, my family is 100% Irish), two turtles (Leo and Raph), a horse (Oliver is the barn name, Capital Blues is the show name it's my sister's, she rides him), fish, and hermit crabs.
What's in your room?: a bed, windows, posters, pictures, movies, a tv, a turtle tank, a fish tank, rug, lots of other stuff i dont feel like naming
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? hopefully a freshman at Harvard, studying chemistry, pyrotechnics, and majoring in chem and minoring in bio

Wee!

So uh, yeah, what's up everyone?

-Gav

[b]Name:[/b] Adam Neely
[b]Age:[/b] 15
[b]Location:[/b] Maryland
[b]Job/Occupation:[/b] Student
[b]Instruments other than bass played:[/b] upright, piano, guitar, flute, recorder, drums, vibes and a wee bit of clarinet
[b]Years playing bass, etc:[/b] Three years on the bass, same with guitar, a year on upright, piano for about seven years, recorder/flute for about two.
[b]How many instruments do you have?:[/b] Two basses, a guitar, a yamaha upright piano, two cheapo soprano recorders, an alto recorder, and my grandfather's flute
[b]What's cool about where you live?:[/b] Its very near the capitol, which has some free event going on daily, which can be cool if you're chronically bored like I am.
[b]Do you have a car?:[/b] Nope. In fact, I only got my permit yesterday.
[b]Do you have pets?:[/b] Two cats, Tuna and Cleo
[b]What's in your room?:[/b] A bed, a desk with my computer and lots of books, a couple of random posters, framed jazz records and signed magazines from Victor Wooten and Christian McBride, guitar/bass stuff. Yeah, thats about it.
[b]Where do you see yourself in 5 years?[/b] Hopefully in college somewhere getting some sort of degree in music.

Yes...2 weeks of looking for a girls number is over I just got it...She gave me har nymber at a party where i was drunk but the next day i couldn't remember so I had do some looking...and now I have it...Just felt like sharing