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Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Medieval guitars?

You guys are talking about twin guitar harmonies?[/QUOTE]
Yes, the ones that sound medievalish.

Cain 03-22-2005 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=evil ernie]Medieval guitars?

You guys are talking about twin guitar harmonies?[/QUOTE]

The acoustics more than anything else. The chord structures and progressions on songs like Benighted and Advent are very Baroque-ly minor key to me.

Cain 03-22-2005 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]In Lamentations didn't Mike say that he was absolutely sick of that style of playing in the documentary? He said he liked Morningrise, but there was some parts he couldn't even stand to listen to because of the guitar style (meaning the medieval guitar :( )

I just want more Opeth! I'm not sure I would like it if they went back to that style,I mean its cool, but I like Deliverance style alot more (everything but Wreath). And I hope they stick to the jazzy type.... interludes? I don't know what to call them but you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]

What he meant was the twin guitar parts, the electrics more than the acoustics: and the utter lightness and darkness of the themes, when they switched. The acoustic guitar on Still Life, two albums later, is the medieval guitar that I want back. I saw none of it on ****ation, or Deliverance either with the exception of the bridge to "A Fair Judgement."

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]What he meant was the twin guitar parts, the electrics more than the acoustics: and the utter lightness and darkness of the themes, when they switched. The acoustic guitar on Still Life, two albums later, is the medieval guitar that I want back. I saw none of it on ****ation, or Deliverance either with the exception of the bridge to "A Fair Judgement."[/QUOTE]
Ohhh, I thought he meant the acoustics.
But still, I like the more death metalish side of Opeth. Albums like Blackwater Park and Deliverance. The older albums were good too, but I like the newer ones because they are way heavier :thumb:

anubae_obscura 03-22-2005 01:57 PM

I absolutely love OPETH! I cannot get enough...watch lamentations 2-3 times a week and keep their cds permanently in my player....they are the best!

the2stranger 03-22-2005 01:58 PM

^

Mikeal got sick of that, so I don't think we'll ever see twin guitar back.
it does keep Morningrise unique though :)

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 02:03 PM

[url]http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AAG2NH1CPS5811RWW3HE4E5JK[/url]

Theres Opeth- Orchid, if anyone doesn't have it.
I put it up on yousendit for some guy, and I decided to not let it go to waste, so there ya go :)
It also has the bonus track.

Kaiwaz 03-22-2005 05:39 PM

I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?

RouteOne 03-22-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]
Can you post it somehow?

Kage 03-22-2005 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I just learned how to play the Entire song "In Mist She Was Standing" rythm. I record all the higher parts in my 8 year old ZOOM pedal and play the lower or standard parts as I go along with the song. I still can't figure out how to play the acoustic riff before the outro though. It's really hard to get it to sound like it is, actually I don't think I [I]can [/I] get it to sound like that. It's a masterpiece. I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]

heh...I'd kill for a Martin acoustic. Nice job on learning the song, though. I have yet to tackle that one. I've been making my way through the Delieverance album for some reason.

EDIT: That's a cool feature on the Zoom pedal, too. It's perfect for learning/writing parts with two simultaneous guitar parts.

Magicaltroll 03-22-2005 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]heh...I'd kill for a Martin acoustic. Nice job on learning the song, though. I have yet to tackle that one. I've been making my way through the Delieverance album for some reason.

EDIT: That's a cool feature on the Zoom pedal, too. It's perfect for learning/writing parts with two simultaneous guitar parts.[/QUOTE]
I still haven't been learning much Opeth. I always get confused when playing it, I don't know if its because the tabs are wrong, or if its because I'm just stupid when it comes to that stuff...
But I know a good aount of their acoustic stuff :thumb:

evil ernie 03-23-2005 12:33 AM

Well.... thank you guys for clarifying the medieval guitar thing...though I don't believe the word is appropriate here. Maybe that's because when I say medieval, I mean Hammerfall or Freedom Call, which is obviously not what you meant.

Concerning the last acoustic part of In The Mist She Was Standing, I don't understand exactly what is hard to figure out, the part is quite slow and relativly simple, no ****ed up chords or anything, and both guitars are panned seperatly. If your concern is only the sound of that part, there's not much you can do about it more than screwing around for hours on your recording program to get as close as possible to their sound. Even if you had the exact guitar Mikael used on this album, even if you had the exact same recording equipement he used, you still would have a hard time nailing the exact tone you can ear on the album.

Oh and the outro of this song is soooooooo good.

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]^

Mikeal got sick of that, so I don't think we'll ever see twin guitar back.
it does keep Morningrise unique though :)[/QUOTE]

yes, we had to bid the twin guitar farewell. I just started to learn the Leper Affinity, and i think its the hardest opeth song ive ever attempted, though im starting to get it down

evil ernie 03-23-2005 01:50 AM

Yeah The Lepper Affinity is the hardest Opeth song to play in my opinion.

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 02:37 AM

i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster

Cardboard Headgear 03-23-2005 02:54 AM

[QUOTE=Flynn] I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?[/QUOTE]
Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 02:59 AM

yeah, definatly, the easiest song is probably the moor, and even then, that's quite hard

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 03:01 AM

i think benighted is easier than the moor

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 03:19 AM

haha, dunno, i always have trouble with benighted, my finger picking is far from up to scratch

opeth_oasis 03-23-2005 03:46 AM

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.


Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]

nothing in particular hard about it, some of the riffage is difficult to get down, but im getting there

the2stranger 03-23-2005 06:31 AM

still life is their most complex album + try and play all those riffs, and sing over them as well, very few are as gifted as Mikeal

ArcLite 03-23-2005 06:32 AM

Yeah, I can't imagine trying to sing and play those riffs at the same time. Must take a good deal of focus, even for ol' Mikey.

Deth 03-23-2005 10:40 AM

I just learned the drapery falls and bleak on bass. Fun little numbers to play. I can't find good tabs of their early stuff though.

Kafkastolemyslippers 03-23-2005 05:43 PM

I found a lot of their earlier stuff on powertabs.net I think.

I am starting to learn the Leper Affinity right now. That song is so evil sounding, it's amazing.

I have also started working through all of Morningrise on drums, but it may take some time before I learn everything. My drumming skills aren't exactly up to snuff.

XyleM 03-23-2005 08:17 PM

[QUOTE='magicaltroll834']http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AAG2NH1CPS5811RWW3HE4E5JK

Theres Opeth- Orchid, if anyone doesn't have it.
I put it up on yousendit for some guy, and I decided to not let it go to waste, so there ya go
It also has the bonus track.[/QUOTE]

Much love :thumb:

GTU-Tabz 03-23-2005 08:20 PM

yellow card rox, it's the best metal band i heard

Grey Incision 03-23-2005 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=GTU-Tabz]yellow card rox, it's the best metal band i heard[/QUOTE]

even though it was a troll, this thread just got ruined:(

Dude3 03-24-2005 12:21 AM

Does anybody know where I can find an official tab book for Blackwater Park? I searched all over, and I can't find one. Maybe they don't make them :upset:

I need to learn an Opeth song. I was thinking of trying The Leper Affinity. I've only learned the opening riff so far. I know parts of a few other songs off of that album too.

IvortheEngineDriver 03-24-2005 03:54 AM

You know, looking at all the different avatars of people posting in this thread, it really makes me smile, It makes me think of Opeth as one of "those" bands. Those bands that bridge gaps and open minds up to new things.

I know, we are all smart people here, but do you often see a band that is liked by people of all different genres (most notably Xylem's avatar, an Incubus fan liking Opeth...btw, I love Incubus)

I dont know if this post has any point, but man, I just love seeing Opeth appreciated by all, it makes me think great things :)

BTW, has anyone tried showing Opeth to school mates/friends? What's their responses usually? Do they reject the growling vocals at first? Do you show them ****ation or maybe their softer songs on other records (To Bid You Farewell and Benighted are great ones to show...as is Harvest...well all of them are good ;) )

Det_Nosnip 03-24-2005 11:27 AM

Usually, I end up having to say "Ok, yes, the growls are a little hard to handle at first, but KEEP LISTENING, ****IT!" :lol: I do a radio show once a week, and I keep end up playing "Godhead's Lament" on it. Probably not the most easily accessible of Opeth songs (it kicks in right away with Death metal fury), but those acoustic/clean vocal passages are some of the band's best. I've also played "Harvest" and some stuff from ****ation, and generally gotten pretty good receptions. They really seem to a band that you either love or hate, though.


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