[QUOTE=GiB_PlAyEr123]Metallica > AC/DC AC/DC = Gay Metallica = Greatest Band Ever[/QUOTE]

DON'T be STYOOPID!

First of all, AC/DC are perfectly heterrosexual as far as I know. Metallica are good, but Greatest Band Ever? Hrrmmm......... I'm guessing you've never heard of Dream Theater? :naughty: :D

[QUOTE=thebigyin]DON'T be STYOOPID!

First of all, AC/DC are perfectly heterrosexual as far as I know. Metallica are good, but Greatest Band Ever? Hrrmmm......... I'm guessing you've never heard of Dream Theater? :naughty: :D[/QUOTE]
Dream Theater aren't the "greatest band ever" (but still a good one). There is no "greatest band ever" as far as I'm concerned.

sorry Bros. I meant to say "Metallica: a year* and a half in the life of"

I haven't seen it because its like 40 bucks and I don't want to spend that much.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]sorry Bros. I meant to say "Metallica: a year* and a half in the life of"[/QUOTE]
You can edit your posts. Just click the edit button at the bottom of your post :).

[QUOTE=dark gunslinger]yea man ride the lightinging is hard but i can't get master of puppets which f**king sucks! :mad: i can't ****ing get![/QUOTE]

Puppets I mostly got, but live. I can't do the whammy part yet. RTL isn't bad if you've got the fingers to do it, it's quite a stretch for the tapping

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Dream Theater aren't the "greatest band ever" (but still a good one). There is no "greatest band ever" as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'd have to agree. There is no possibility of a "Greatest Band Ever" because people's tastes vary so much.

I was kidding, by the way :lol: but DT are one of my fav bands.

To me, they are on a par with Metallica, but obviously for very different reasons.

So...nobody has heard of this DVD i speak of?? "METALLICA: a year and half in the life of" And by the way, MetallicA is definitely better than Dream Theater. I mean c'mon they influenced Dream Theater! METALLICA are imo, the greatest heavy metal band ever. The fact is the redifined the genre and took it to a whole nother level w/ heavier, faster riffs, vocal grit and versatility...and more stability than most bands can compare to....and to all you Megadeth fans out there(not say i'm not a fan) name one tune by Mustaine that rocks as hard and fast as Battery!..yeah exactly.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]So...nobody has heard of this DVD i speak of?? "METALLICA: a year and half in the life of" And by the way, MetallicA is definitely better than Dream Theater. I mean c'mon they influenced Dream Theater! METALLICA are imo, the greatest heavy metal band ever. The fact is the redifined the genre and took it to a whole nother level w/ heavier, faster riffs, vocal grit and versatility...and more stability than most bands can compare to....and to all you Megadeth fans out there(not say i'm not a fan) name one tune by Mustaine that rocks as hard and fast as Battery!..yeah exactly.[/QUOTE]
Oh my...You're seriously asking for it.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]....and to all you Megadeth fans out there(not say i'm not a fan) name one tune by Mustaine that rocks as hard and fast as Battery!..yeah exactly.[/QUOTE]
Holy Wars.
Kick The Chair.
Take No Prisoners.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]So...nobody has heard of this DVD i speak of?? "METALLICA: a year and half in the life of" And by the way, MetallicA is definitely better than Dream Theater. I mean c'mon they influenced Dream Theater! METALLICA are imo, the greatest heavy metal band ever. The fact is the redifined the genre and took it to a whole nother level w/ heavier, faster riffs, vocal grit and versatility...and more stability than most bands can compare to....and to all you Megadeth fans out there(not say i'm not a fan) name one tune by Mustaine that rocks as hard and fast as Battery!..yeah exactly.[/QUOTE]

I'd have to agree with Digital Love on that one :rolleyes:

Metallica is NOT definitely better than Dream Theater. In fact, let's just turn that around a bit, and the truth will be told: Metallica is DEFINITELY NOT better than Dram Theater. I'd like to see Lars keep up with Portnoy's playing. Kirk and Robert are fast; James is great at what he does (solid rhythm playing), but that's about it. Metallica is a great band, but technically, they can't touch Dream Theater. The DT level of ability (playing AND songwriting-wise) is just way above 'Tallica.

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]Holy Wars.
Kick The Chair.
Take No Prisoners.[/QUOTE]
Add Mechanix and My Last Words, Good Mourning/Black Friday and Tornado of Souls to that list as well. Those songs can beat out any Metallica song IMO.

I also think Dream Theater is better than Metallica. There songs are far more interesting, and adventuresome. Try and find an album by Metallica that can flow together as well as Scenes from a Memory, or any album that is a s unique, strange and adventuresome as Images and Words. Of course, this is my opinion.

Battery isn't even Metallica's best, hardest, or fastest song. Megadeth and Dream Theater also have tones of songs that are as fast and hard as battery. Yes Metallica influenced a lot of bands, but they were also influenced a lot by guys like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and etc. The genre is rock. The subgenre they redefined and set a level of headbanging and heavy metal for bands like dream theater to take over one day.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Battery isn't even Metallica's best, hardest, or fastest song. Megadeth and Dream Theater also have tones of songs that are as fast and hard as battery. Yes Metallica influenced a lot of bands, but they were also influenced a lot by guys like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and etc. The genre is rock. The subgenre they redefined and set a level of headbanging and heavy metal for bands like dream theater to take over one day.[/QUOTE]

OK, but Dream Theater aren't Heavy Metal, they're Progressive Metal :p

[QUOTE=thebigyin]OK, but Dream Theater aren't Heavy Metal, they're Progressive Metal :p[/QUOTE]
if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

NP: Metallica - One, S&M version. i prefer it to the studio version, it just seems better with the orchestra backing it.

[QUOTE=sack-man]if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.
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As I am Semi-Thrash? Hardly.

Ok folks, ur right in that Holy wars, is a gr8 song..and Mustaine as written several others that hold up to most metal of the day, but i don't see how any of them match the pure ferocity and fire that Hetfield unleashes w/ Battery. And i never said it was their best. I do think its up there, cause so much "speed metal is just speed and noise w/ not a lotta coherence. I, along w/ many fans consider MOP their best song(and album). The way it hits 3 different keys, the mid-solo w/ harmony being one of the most recognizable melodic solos in metal. and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even. And to EddieVanHalen739, Dream Theater is an awesome group of musicians all of whom are basically virtuosos at what they do, i'm aware of that, but i know a lotta people that just find em too technical. I mean when u focus that much about ever single note and tone its just too technical...that not Metal....i mean the stuff Metallica was crankin out on Kill em all and RTL w/ all the attitude. Thats METAL. and which ever one of u mentioned Hendrix and Zeppelin everyone already knows they own it all..period....but thoses guys are classic..were talkin 60, and 70s.....Classic Rock, not Heavy Metal.....as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best. Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86] and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.[/QUOTE]
Shredding Solo - Anything off of [I]Killing Is My Business[/I].

Marty doesn't need to shred when he can pull off sweep arpeggios at 160 BPM. Ever heard 'Hangar 18'? There's 11 solos in that song that are all amazing.

Megadeth is a much more talented band instrument wise but with song writing its all down to opinion.

[QUOTE=sack-man]if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

NP: Metallica - One, S&M version. i prefer it to the studio version, it just seems better with the orchestra backing it.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't quite say it was "semi-thrash"...... I've got Train of Thought already. Also, When Dream And Day Unite, Images and Words, Awake, Falling Into Infinity, Scenes From A Memory, Six Degree of Inner Turbulence, Octavarium.....

hang on, that's all their studio albums :p

[QUOTE=Digital Love]As I am Semi-Thrash? Hardly.[/QUOTE]

Just read that^. Would have made my last post much easier if I'd read it earlier, eh? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86 ]and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.[/QUOTE]
How about any of their solos on Rust In Peace? Also, if you listen to Friedman's solo album Dragon's Kiss, you realise that Friedman owns Kirk.

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.

james is very good

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]
Dream Theater is an awesome group of musicians all of whom are basically virtuosos at what they do, i'm aware of that, but i know a lotta people that just find em too technical. I mean when u focus that much about ever single note and tone its just too technical...that not Metal....i mean the stuff Metallica was crankin out on Kill em all and RTL w/ all the attitude. Thats METAL.

.......as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best.

Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but SINCE WHEN WAS METAL NOT TECHNICAL?! :rolleyes:

Yeah, in my opinion Metallica IS the best HEAVY METAL band, but Dream Theater ain't HEAVY metal, it's PROG metal. As I said earlier.

And finally, OK, Cliff was brilliant..... but I still reckon that Myung is better. Either way, you can't say that Cliff was "the best bassist". Since when were you given the authority to decide on the World's Top Bassist?

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I like Metallica, I'm just sticking up for one of the greatest under rated bands of all time. And how can you judge a band when you are obviosly ignorant about them. I mean that they can play their instruments better, they have more technical riffs, and their solos are incredible as far as metal goes. And I said instruments not vocal chords, and the fact that you said James has a better voice is completely subjective.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.[/QUOTE]
I can't really be bothered getting into this argument, but; Technically Dream Theater blow Metallica out of the water on every aspect. It's not debatable, it's simple fact. If you can't see that then there's no point in arguing.
Also, The amount of records solds depicts a band's poularity, not their technical skill.

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86] and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.[/QUOTE]

There are plenty. Actually, it's nice that Kirk really ISN'T a shredder. It means more talent and soul.

[QUOTE]and which ever one of u mentioned Hendrix and Zeppelin everyone already knows they own it all..period....but thoses guys are classic..were talkin 60, and 70s.....Classic Rock, not Heavy Metal.....as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best. Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.[/QUOTE]

I'm joe, nice to meet you. Do some research buddy. Jimi Hendrix is Kirk's influence. If you haven't seen any live Metallica videos, you wouldn't know that. Led Zeppelin influenced EVERY guitarist (in some way) that is currently in rock or metal. And what sense does your last line make? It's just completely random. Yes I don't like DT as much as Metallica, but you're last line doesn't really hold together anything you're trying to say

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.[/QUOTE]
Try Herman Li and Sam Totman of Dragonforce as the best guitarist duo. Seriously, they compliment each others styles far better than Hetfield and Hammet can, while pulling off far cooler solos than Hammet. It's also two guitarists soloing, instead of just one. Megadeth even does this, which is far more interesting than just oen guitarist soling. Seriously, Heman Li and Sam totman do the same solo at the same time, and do awsome trade offs. Even the riffs to the songs show how well they play together. Download the songs "My Spirit Will Go On," "Blackfire" "Where Dragons Rule" and "Black Winter Night" for a taste of what they can do.

[QUOTE=Digital Love]I can't really be bothered getting into this argument, but; Technically Dream Theater blow Metallica out of the water on every aspect. It's not debatable, it's simple fact. If you can't see that then there's no point in arguing.
Also, The amount of records solds depicts a band's poularity, not their technical skill.[/QUOTE]

'Zackly

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Try Herman Li and Sam Totman of Dragonforce as the best guitarist duo. Seriously, they compliment each others styles far better than Hetfield and Hammet can, while pulling off far cooler solos than Hammet. It's also two guitarists soloing, instead of just one. Megadeth even does this, which is far more interesting than just oen guitarist soling. Seriously, Heman Li and Sam totman do the same solo at the same time, and do awsome trade offs. Even the riffs to the songs show how well they play together. Download the songs "My Spirit Will Go On," "Blackfire" and "Black Winter Night" for a taste of what they can do.[/QUOTE]

HELL YEAH!!! Goin' to see the 'Force at Edinburgh Liquid Room in September, and could not agree more.

Although, the 'Tallica duo are pretty **** good as well, I'll give them that.

My opinion: Mustaine&Friedman > Hetfield&Hammett. Way greater.


[size=5]Just listen to Hangar 18![/size]

Ok, i'd liek to start off by sayin yes I've heard Dragonforce..and yes they are kicka**. They prolly solo off eachother better than any band i've ever heard. and gocaps, ur right about Kirk. Thats probabaly why i liek him more than Mustaine. The fact that he writes solos like either of the first 2 from Sanitarium, intro to Fade to Black, Unforgiven, he just plays w/ more emotion and style than alotta other guys. and yes of course i know hes huge Hendrix fan i've seen most of Live Sh*t Binge and Purge and i have Cliff 'em all. Talk about songwriting skilld being subjective, Kirk and James
just have a knack for writing songs and riffs that sound huge! Ever since Kill em all if u think about it. ya know like the breakdown to clean part in Phantom Lord?.....and then like over half of RTL. They just have a bigger sound than most othwer bands/guitarists. That is why they RULE. Style. Tons of guys can shredd, even good shredd. Talk about Hangar 18 havin 11 solos. I've heard the aong atleast 100 times...and i can't hum any of em. Its not about quanity, quality people. U give Hammett room for 1 or 2, thats all u need.

Hm. About Cliff being the best... He was good, chuffin' good, I'll give him that. And as a bassist, yes, he influenced me, not just as a musician, but also as a person. So in that respect, yes he was good. He was also 24 when he died. That's a lot of unfulfilled potential... But who's to say he wouldn't have left after the Puppets tour and not bothered with bass ever again. So for that reason, the fact that he *could* have been great doesn't stand up. Yes, Myung is better. But Sheehan beats both of them. Sheehan can shred the hell out of Burton, and his speed, shred and tapping etc is far better than Myung's. Just don't listen to his band Mr. Big. They suck :lol:

:smash:

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86 ] ya know like the breakdown to clean part in Phantom Lord?.....[/QUOTE]
It's funny, Dave Mustaine wrote that song.

Been a while since I've been here, have I missed anything?

Ok, i've heard the name...and i swear i know this..but who is Sheehan again? and what band is he known for?.....Also, u guys know what I'm talkin about w/ Kirk and James sick ability to write huge meaningful riffs??. ..Sure the BlacK Album isn't as hardcore as all the stuff before but like every song on it is meant to be done live and sounds huge in every respect of the word. Yeeeeaah!

[QUOTE=metal guitar]It's funny, Dave Mustaine wrote that song.[/QUOTE]
Owned.

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Hm. About Cliff being the best... He was good, chuffin' good, I'll give him that. And as a bassist, yes, he influenced me, not just as a musician, but also as a person. So in that respect, yes he was good. He was also 24 when he died. That's a lot of unfulfilled potential... But who's to say he wouldn't have left after the Puppets tour and not bothered with bass ever again. So for that reason, the fact that he *could* have been great doesn't stand up. Yes, Myung is better. But Sheehan beats both of them. Sheehan can shred the hell out of Burton, and his speed, shred and tapping etc is far better than Myung's. Just don't listen to his band Mr. Big. They suck :lol:

:smash:[/QUOTE]

Quoted for truth :thumb:

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.[/QUOTE]
:amaze:


I just listened to my old ...And Justice For All album, and it's darn good! In fact I think it's my favorite Metallica record. More epic songs, a very awesome progeressive feel throughout, and perhaps the peak of Hetfield's vocals and guitar, maybe Hammett's, and most definitley Ulrich's drumming. (even thought he was never great to begin with.) Although, people say that Lars can't even play Dyer's Eve live? The only downfall to the album is lack of Burton's influence and playing (yes he was quite skilled as a metal bassist) and that they had Newsted's bass turned way down.

I think my favorite Metallica song is To Live Is To Die. It is awesome and quite significant as far as the bands history goes.

[QUOTE=perriwinkle]My opinion: Mustaine&Friedman > Hetfield&Hammett. Way greater.


[size=5]Just listen to Hangar 18![/size][/QUOTE]

heard it, nothing that special

yes, to live is to die is amazing