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I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Fanboys horribly overrate Tool as well, but they're one of the best bands on the radio today. The time signatures they use are unbelievably complex, and the parts they write stand out, yet blend together. You can hear all the instruments, and the harmonies and rhythms they use are complicated.[/QUOTE]


I think they're so complex they just bore people. There's a max'd out point with anything. I think Tool exceeds that.

Sleepy 04-22-2006 05:15 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Tool fans are idiots. The folks who got a few to many swirlies in high school and loved mother too much.
They are worse than Metallica by leagues.

I disagree on the music. I think Tool is boring & bland. Maynards vocals are annoying & childish. His lyrics reek of immaturity & "thinking deep" which also translates to, "I don't know what I'm on about now".
Carey is a decent drummer but way overrated.[/QUOTE]

You're being far too analytical - sometimes simple rock music can be a good thing. I like Tool, but I'm by no means a massive fanboy.

Shattered_Future 04-22-2006 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I think they're so complex they just bore people. There's a max'd out point with anything. I think Tool exceeds that.[/QUOTE]

Nah, they've found the sweet point where it just works.

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=circlethedrain]TOOL deserves everybit of praise that they get, they write some of the best music out there today.

Now, Children of Bodom are overated, and I can say that beings that i'm a big fan, but their lyrics are horrid. The only things that makes it listenable are the instruments.[/QUOTE]


hey! News Flash dips[size=2]hi[/size]t!

That's the point of CoB. THe music. I can't think of anyone who ever declares them great because of their lyrics.

Get your facts right.

No. Tool doesn't derserve all their credit. Their credit mostly comes from idiot fanboys.

Sleepy 04-22-2006 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]hey! News Flash dips[size=2]hi[/size]t!

That's the point of CoB. THe music. I can't think of anyone who ever declares them great because of their lyrics.

Get your facts right.

No. Tool doesn't derserve all their credit. Their credit mostly comes from idiot fanboys.[/QUOTE]

Just because you don't care about them doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Sure, Bodom makes great music, but I have to agree circlethedrain on the fact that Alexi's lyrics are awful. Sometimes I've gone and listened to Kalmah simply because I wanted to hear something intelligent from the mouth of the speaker.

However, on Hatebreeder and Something Wild I didn't think the lyrics were that bad at all.

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]Just because you don't care about them doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Sure, Bodom makes great music, but I have to agree circlethedrain on the fact that Alexi's lyrics are awful. Sometimes I've gone and listened to Kalmah simply because I wanted to hear something intelligent from the mouth of the speaker.

However, on Hatebreeder and Something Wild I didn't think the lyrics were that bad at all.[/QUOTE]


once again... Keeping in mind lyrics aren't the focus of CoB.

circlethedrain 04-22-2006 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]hey! News Flash dips[size=2]hi[/size]t!

That's the point of CoB. THe music. I can't think of anyone who ever declares them great because of their lyrics.

Get your facts right.

No. Tool doesn't derserve all their credit. Their credit mostly comes from idiot fanboys.[/QUOTE]


For bands to be great they have to have both great music and great lyrics, they fall short of the staggering standards some fanboys set for them.

repcak 04-22-2006 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Tool fans are idiots. The folks who got a few to many swirlies in high school and loved mother too much.
They are worse than Metallica by leagues.

I disagree on the music. I think Tool is boring & bland. Maynards vocals are annoying & childish. His lyrics reek of immaturity & "thinking deep" which also translates to, "I don't know what I'm on about now".
Carey is a decent drummer but way overrated.[/QUOTE]
i think i have to e-kick your arse a second time :p

i disagree with everything you wrote;
if tool fans are idiots i have to be a 50% idiot... i like/love them, but i don't worship them.
Tool isn't boring for me... its very very interesting and Maynards vocals are one of my fav in music (Maynard and Mikael Aekerfeldt)
his lyrics are one of the greatest i ever heard...

gmoneyguy 04-22-2006 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=circlethedrain]For bands to be great they have to have both great music and great lyrics, they fall short of the staggering standards some fanboys set for them.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Look at Iron Maiden.

HAIL TRUE METAL 04-22-2006 05:27 PM

finished dead heart in a dead world. im gona go listen to FtR now, later!

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]i think i have to e-kick your arse a second time :p

i disagree with everything you wrote;
if tool fans are idiots i have to be a 50% idiot... i like/love them, but i don't worship them.
Tool isn't boring for me... its very very interesting and Maynards vovals are one of my fav in music (Maynard and Mikael Aekerfeldt)
his lyrics are one of the greatest i ever heard...[/QUOTE]


Umm. No. I said fanboys are the idiots.

The guy should write sci fi books, not lyrics.

circlethedrain 04-22-2006 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]Not really. Look at Iron Maiden.[/QUOTE]


I hate Iron Maiden.

repcak 04-22-2006 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=circlethedrain]For bands to be great they have to have both great music and great lyrics, they fall short of the staggering standards some fanboys set for them.[/QUOTE]
i agree with you 100%.

CoB has only a great music... but thats only 50% of music.
best example: NIN -> music and lyrics 100% :smash:

gmoneyguy 04-22-2006 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=circlethedrain]I hate Iron Maiden.[/QUOTE]
So.... The are consider one of the greatest metal bands of all time, wether you like them or night doesn't change that.

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]i agree with you 100%.

CoB has only a great music... but thats only 50% of music.
best example: NIN -> music and lyrics 100% :smash:[/QUOTE]


Now I'm gonna e-kick your arse on this one.

NIN great music? Please.... Lyrics yes. Music don't.

Sleepy 04-22-2006 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]i agree with you 100%.

CoB has only a great music... but thats only 50% of music.
best example: NIN -> music and lyrics 100% :smash:[/QUOTE]

I find NIN's lyrics unimpressing to say the least. The music is quite fun, though. :)

circlethedrain 04-22-2006 05:31 PM

Well, every vote counts, eh?


anyhoo, im gonna go play Oblivion, cya

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=circlethedrain]Well, every vote counts, eh?[/QUOTE]


lol. I guess.

Invicta_Veritas 04-22-2006 05:32 PM

NIN: Uninspiring music, pointless lyrics.
CoB: Beautiful music, pointless lyrics.

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:33 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All]NIN: Uninspiring music, pointless lyrics.
CoB: Beautiful music, pointless lyrics.[/QUOTE]


Yeah. NIN is like the Nirvana of metal. lol

gmoneyguy 04-22-2006 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All]NIN: Uninspiring music, pointless lyrics.
CoB:[B] Beautiful[/B] music, pointless lyrics.[/QUOTE]
I geuss your version is different then mine.

Invicta_Veritas 04-22-2006 05:35 PM

When I say beautiful, I mean really good, not "pretty".

Shattered_Future 04-22-2006 05:35 PM

NIN has some good stuff once in a while, most notably The Fragile.

repcak 04-22-2006 05:35 PM

am i glad that everone has different tastes... or everything has to like NIN. its one of my top 3 favourite bands out there...

i rate NIN and Tool and (maybe even) anathema higher than CoB.

repcak 04-22-2006 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Yeah. NIN is like the Nirvana of metal. lol[/QUOTE]
can someone ban this guy... his insulting a nin-fanboy

Shattered_Future 04-22-2006 05:36 PM

I rate tons higher than COB...

repcak, knock him out. :P

The Buttloaves 04-22-2006 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All]When I say beautiful, I mean really good, not "pretty".[/QUOTE]
Behemoth FTW \m/

I'm Charming 04-22-2006 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]can someone ban this guy... his insulting a nin-fanboy[/QUOTE]



but but but.... ^^^^^^^^^^ He's trolling me.

gmoneyguy 04-22-2006 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All]When I say beautiful, I mean really good, not "pretty".[/QUOTE]
ok... I was thinking, "what the hell is his taste in women like?"

Invicta_Veritas 04-22-2006 05:38 PM

[quote=Diabolus in Musica]ok... I was thinking, "what the hell is his taste in women like?"[/quote]
Oh man, that's funny..........


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