Standing army don't mean sh[size="2"]i[/size]t man. You need to feed discontent among the populace. Chris's idea is sounding better the more he elaborates and the more I think about it.

[QUOTE=whiteminority;13425685]Standing army don't mean sh[size="2"]i[/size]t man. You need to feed discontent among the populace. Chris's idea is sounding better the more he elaborates and the more I think about it.[/QUOTE]
NK's people for the most part would rather leave their country than fix it

just remember

kim jong il is like a semi propaganda expert. he's no stalin but he's pretty good.

he has film aspirations. i would like to watch his stuff

dude look at the propaganda that flows through this nation everyday, what we need to do is hire beer advertisers to the CIA.

We don't get propoganda as much as capitalism

Capitalism is good for the economy but it has its fair share of problems

Still better than communism

yeah but we can look through the propaganda if we really feel like it

everything is here for us. i kind of doubt that information is as easily available for the N Koreans.

and don't even compare our propaganda to soviet russian propaganda.

later dudes. gonna go trim my neck beard

Ugh I have a neckbeard too it grows back like every three days

I have to shave every other day, or else I get a perve stache.

I know, youre all thinking 'dude, grow a bear, it always looks raddddd', except that that wouldnt work unless i would have a sanchez creepy immigrant stache for a few months first, before the full monty would cover my cheeks.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13425916]Ugh I have a neckbeard too it grows back like every three days[/QUOTE]
21 years old and you only shave every three days? Do you have any pubes yet or they still on their way too.

Ha, I'm 20, it gets bad after three days because I let it. Technically I need to shave every day to look non shadowy but I dont

I'm booooored.

Got anything else I can make fun of you about?

I like Dashboard Confessional

Haha

[QUOTE=cbmartinez;13425614]Cause Reagan was an idiot. And couldn't cover his tracks well enough. It's plausible. Plus, we screwed ourselves over in the end because now we are blamin Iran for ****.[/QUOTE]
domestic political backlash aside, the plan still didn't work. in addition, it was funding an already established opposition. so i doubt it could work in north korea, where one doesn't even exist. but even if it could, there would be two things to consider. one is the possible consequences of overthrowing a government in possession of nuclear weapons. how could we ensure that kim jong il wouldn't use his nukes in a last act of retaliation? and two, there is little chance that china would sit by while the north korean government was overthrown by a US backed opposition.

honestly, i have no clue what should be done about this. they've tried all practical options short of military action. clinton tried appeasing. that didn't work. bush tried taking a hard line, that didn't work. then bush tried diplomacy. none of it worked. it seems like no matter what, north korea was going to get nuclear weapons and they won't give them up unless we take them. but military action could definitely cause some trouble. so hopefully all those people in the government that are smarter and more knowledgable than me can figure out what to do.

let's quit the sh[I]i[/I]t no one cares about.

and by that i mean the useless regurging of facts we hear on the news/read in books about this conflict.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;13426763]let's quit the sh[I]i[/I]t no one cares about.

and by that i mean the useless regurging of facts we hear on the news/read in books about this conflict.[/QUOTE]
i don't see that. i see people analyzing the situation for themselves, forming their own opinions, and discussing them.

fags

i'm a little dissapointed with the new red sparowes. still really good, but after a few listens i don't think its as good as the last one.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13426805]i'm a little dissapointed with the new red sparowes. still really good, but after a few listens i don't think its as good as the last one.[/QUOTE]

"We Stood Transfixed..." is my favorite song from them. I like the new CD.

So gav, wut's the deal with the wrist?

[QUOTE=spammymcspamspam;13426802]fags[/QUOTE]
Oh s[SIZE="2"]hi[/SIZE]t you're right, let me suck your dick.

I love drinking!

[QUOTE=BloodThirstyGuillotine;13426839]"We Stood Transfixed..." is my favorite song from them. I like the new CD.[/QUOTE]
ya, thats a good one, i think i'm liking "a message of avarice..." a little better though. but to me their new stuff sounds me explosions in the sky-ish and less like their old sound. nothing on the new one stacks up to the first three tracks off the last one to me. but maybe my opinion will change with a few more listens.

[QUOTE=spammymcspamspam;13426802]fags[/QUOTE]

Nice.

What's up?

-Gav

[QUOTE=srt-4;13426805]i'm a little dissapointed with the new red sparowes. still really good, but after a few listens i don't think its as good as the last one.[/QUOTE]

weird.

i think it's a lot better.

espeically since it doesn't have those annoying "noise" sections.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;13427865]weird.

i think it's a lot better.

espeically since it doesn't have those annoying "noise" sections.[/QUOTE]
ya, i didn't like those. i think track 4 would have been better without all that. the second half of at the soundless dawn was definitely weaker in my opinion.

i guess now that i'm thinking about it, this one is better as a whole. but i don't think anything on it tops the first couple tracks on the old one. those first two tracks just had such a big, layered, unique sound. i don't think they really recaptured that. most of the stuff i like best on the new one is that more minimalistic eits type sound, rather than the big soundscapes i liked most on the other one.

but i still really like every red heart and would take it over just about anything else in the genre. and maybe in a couple more listens i'll change my mind.

Srt, you're very educated. I talked about my plan or whatever with my friends and stuff and I came to the same conclusion. It would be too hard to pull off considering the reign of terror that Kim has over his people. And South Korea can't do **** either.

It's a shame that we really spoiled the whole no questions asked assassination thing back when we had pre-eminance by taking out people that hurt our economic interests (ie: the Shah of Iran). Because that could really work well for us now.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez;13428862]Srt, you're very educated. I talked about my plan or whatever with my friends and stuff and I came to the same conclusion. It would be too hard to pull off considering the reign of terror that Kim has over his people. And South Korea can't do **** either.

It's a shame that we really spoiled the whole no questions asked assassination thing back when we had pre-eminance by taking out people that hurt our economic interests (ie: the Shah of Iran). Because that could really work well for us now.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the compliment.

the shah was our guy. we were keeping him in power. khomeini overthrew him in a coup that was based in no small part on opposition to the shah's connection to the US. the iran-contra affair was actually funding revolution in nicaragua against the sandinistas. iran came into play because we were selling weapons to khomeini's government in iran in exchange for him using his influence to get hostages freed that had been taken in lebanon. which he never did. but the money from selling those weapons was then used to fund insurgent groups in nicaragua, the main group being the contras.

the thing that really did in assassinations carried out by the US was the church committee. which was basically a senate commission that uncovered a ton of cia secrets. as a result, strict limitations were placed on the agency, such as the proscription of assissination of foreign leaders.

you're knowledgable too, most people that weren't alive at the time haven't even heard of the shah.

Am I thinking of Mohammad Mossadegh then?

ya, hes who we took down for the shah

And I knew that the Iran-Contra affair was different than the installation of the Shah. Didn't mean to make it look like I thought they were the same.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13429020]ya, hes who we took down for the shah[/QUOTE]

Word, my mistake. Didn't we take out someone in some Central or South American country too?