Yes. The ratio is relative to the threshold you set.

I'm a bit confused as to attack and release though.

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17235187]Haha not trolling, but this wasn't directed at me was it?:confused:[/QUOTE]

Making fun of myself if anything.

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17235207]Yes. The ratio is relative to the threshold you set.

I'm a bit confused as to attack and release though.[/QUOTE]

Essentially, the attack and release are how radically the compression begins on the wave cluster and ends. A fast attack will be more radical than a slow one on impacting the wave, for example.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17235192]basic explanation of compression:

the most important aspect is the "ratio." Most commonly compressors are defaulted to a ratio of 2:1. What this means is that for every two decibels of raw volume, the actual recorded wave's volume in the software is increased by one. Essentially, a ratio of 2:1 cuts the input volume in half. [B]Not only does it cut the loud aspects out, though - but it also raises the volume of the quiet aspects[/B]. So the more radical the compression ratio, the more radical the increase/decrease of the different aspects.

For aggressive rap like you do, I recommend the following settings (which you can manipulate fully in sonar)

Ratio inf:1 with a hard knee, and depending on the raw wave, maybe a gain cut of -2 dB.[/QUOTE]

so it is kind of like a equalization? would you compress before a Eq tool is applied?



*this post is for entertainment purposes only

does the world wide interweb have this for someone who lacks a certain commodity to attain such a program?

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17235207]Yes. The ratio is relative to the threshold you set.

I'm a bit confused as to attack and release though.[/QUOTE]

Oh you totally have to check out this handout I got from school.

It's a technique for compressing basically anything.

You set the compression ratio to max, set the release to the minimum, the attack to minimum, and the threshold to sensitive(i.e. half way).

You then precede to set the attack, leave it, then the release, then the ratio, then the threshold. And adjusting the output as you go to getting the same level as you go.

It really does work. And at first you have to go from one extreme to another on the dials to even hear a difference, but then you find sweet spots that sound really good.

I can't find it on the webz. If you're interested I could scan it, it's only like 2 pages.

[QUOTE=Gattsu347;17235221]so it is kind of like a equalization? would you compress before a Eq tool is applied?



*this post is for entertainment purposes only

does the world wide interweb have this for someone who lacks a certain commodity to attain such a program?[/QUOTE]
Nah it's nothing like eq, although it usually alters tone.

And yes you compress before you do basically everything else I'm pretty sure.

[quote=Raayl;17235214]Essentially, the attack and release are how radically the compression begins on the wave cluster and ends. A fast attack will be more radical than a slow one on impacting the wave, for example.[/quote]

So if I set the attack to 500ms or something insane, the compression wouldn't even take effect fully until half a second later?

That makes sense.

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17235234]So if I set the attack to 500ms or something insane, the compression wouldn't even take effect fully until half a second later?

That makes sense.[/QUOTE]

mmhrmm.

[quote=Joelbassman;17235224]Oh you totally have to check out this handout I got from school.

It's a technique for compressing basically anything.

You set the compression ratio to max, set the release to the minimum, the attack to minimum, and the threshold to sensitive(i.e. half way).

You then precede to set the attack, leave it, then the release, then the ratio, then the threshold. And adjusting the output as you go to getting the same level as you go.

It really does work. And at first you have to go from one extreme to another on the dials to even hear a difference, but then you find sweet spots that sound really good.

I can't find it on the webz. If you're interested I could scan it, it's only like 2 pages.[/quote]

Yeah man, that'd be cool if you could send it to my email: funkmetalbass at cheatcc dot com

I think I really need to work on my right-hand attack (although I have a feeling my attack is pretty consistent and it's just my pickup height that needs adjusting) because my low E-strings and B-strings sound incredibly squashed.

super mario bros. calls me. i read about compression tomarrow

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17235239]Yeah man, that'd be cool if you could send it to my email: funkmetalbass at cheatcc dot com

I think I really need to work on my right-hand attack (although I have a feeling my attack is pretty consistent and it's just my pickup height that needs adjusting) because my low E-strings and B-strings sound incredibly squashed.[/QUOTE]
I'll send it on over tomorrow :)

I needa work on keeping my attack even higher speeds :\

[quote=Joelbassman;17235252]I'll send it on over tomorrow :)

I needa work on keeping my attack even higher speeds :\[/quote]

As do I, especially when I gallop. eGad.

Galloping for the lulz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqS9x7sBZA&feature=related

I want one. So I can draw two year old quality faces and wobble a table like liquid.

Got my diploma yesterday.

Whoopie?

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236333]Got my diploma yesterday.

Whoopie?[/QUOTE]

Sweet.

Now what?

Work for a year (or maybe half a year, depending on how quickly I get bored), and then back to school.

Last final tomorrow. w00t!

Then class again on June 2. :upset:

It's a rock music history class, so it shouldn't be too bad, except the hours (6:14pm - 9:45pm, MW) are a bit lame.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236337]Work for a year (or maybe half a year, depending on how quickly I get bored), and then back to school.[/QUOTE]

Damn, that sounds awful.

I love learning, but I doubt I could do that much school.

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;17236375]Damn, that sounds awful.

I love learning, but I doubt I could do that much school.[/QUOTE]

Nah, not awful. It's what I want to do. I'm not even going to seriously look for a job until after my MA.

Unless something happens during my time off to drastically change my desires, I've got probably several more years of school left (assuming my masters is the bare minimum). Might go for a PhD, even.

[quote=BenJammin;17236379]Nah, not awful. It's what I want to do. I'm not even going to seriously look for a job until after my MA.

Unless something happens during my time off to drastically change my desires, I've got probably several more years of school left (assuming my masters is the bare minimum). Might go for a PhD, even.[/quote]

I'm the same way. You just get caught up in what you are learning and it progresses from there. I'm about 5-6 years away from my masters if I quit my job and go to school full time. PhD is where it's at. But then again, you don't find jobs outside of schools if you only have a math masters.

My brother has been at school for journalism. He got straight A's this year, apparently. Nothing below an A-, some A's, some A+'s. Damn he's good. I believe he has one more year to go... until he graduates top of his class, most likely.

I need to step up my grades. I didn't realize that the Master's Program was performance-based and you have to have a decent GPA + a good GRE score to even get in. :upset:

Money doesn't buy everything.

Shall I do my Masters.

Hrm.

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17236405]I need to step up my grades. I didn't realize that the Master's Program was performance-based and you have to have a decent GPA + a good GRE score to even get in. :upset:

Money doesn't buy everything.[/QUOTE]

No, it doesn't. Although anyone and their dog can get into an undergraduate program, graduate studies don't usually admit idiots. Not saying you're an idiot, but the high bar is there for a reason.

I graduated with my honours in English, as well as distinction (for having an average in my English courses over 3.7 in the last two years), so that is going to help me out when I go apply next year.

So, bass and drums are now done for 5/10 songs on the new album. All is sounding quite good. I can't wait to get some guitar on there already.

[quote=BenJammin;17236408]No, it doesn't. Although anyone and their dog can get into an undergraduate program, graduate studies don't usually admit idiots. Not saying you're an idiot, but the high bar is there for a reason.

I graduated with my honours in English, as well as distinction (for having an average in my English courses over 3.7 in the last two years), so that is going to help me out when I go apply next year.[/quote]

I thought, credits are credits and my GPA was unimportant until I got into the graduate and doctoral levels.

I'm going to have to step up these next two or 3 years and pull straight A's to look decent.

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17236427][B]I thought, credits are credits and my GPA was unimportant until I got into the graduate and doctoral levels.
[/B]
I'm going to have to step up these next two or 3 years and pull straight A's to look decent.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...no. :lol:

Otherwise, what would distinguish between the A+ students, and the C students? That's a huge margin of difference, on many levels. ;)

It's not all exclusively based on marks, but a lot of it is.

[quote=BenJammin;17236429]Yeah...no. :lol:

Otherwise, what would distinguish between the A+ students, and the C students? That's a huge margin of difference, on many levels. ;)

It's not all exclusively based on marks, but a lot of it is.[/quote]

It all goes back to my lack of knowledge regarding the Master's Program. I didn't realize you had to be accepted into it; I thought it was just a continuation of upper division classes that anybody with the mental capacity to pass the classes could take.

It's okay, I'm fairly certain my GRE scores will be decent. I mean, how bad can that test be?

Unless you're specifically enrolled in a program which is a combined undergraduate and graduate degree, yeah, you have to apply and be accepted into an institution to do graduate studies.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236408]No, it doesn't. Although anyone and their dog can get into an undergraduate program, graduate studies don't usually admit idiots. Not saying you're an idiot, but the high bar is there for a reason.

I graduated with my honours in English, as well as distinction (for having an average in my English courses over 3.7 in the last two years), so that is going to [B]help me out when I go apply next year[/B].[/QUOTE]

Too lazy to read.

What master's are you applying to?

[QUOTE=DaveSavesTheDay;17236568]Too lazy to read.

What master's are you applying to?[/QUOTE]

What program, or what universities? If the latter, I have no idea.

Program-wise, I want to do something very modern. Modern literature, or technology/cultural studies. Something relevant, haha.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236575]What program, or what universities? If the latter, I have no idea.

Program-wise, I want to do something very modern. Modern literature, or technology/cultural studies. Something relevant, haha.[/QUOTE]

Bah, I couldn't stand 1 year of university, let alone another 2 on top of my undergrad.

In other news, I write my RCMP aptitude exam tomorrow night. I'm hella nervous.

[QUOTE=DaveSavesTheDay;17236621]Bah, I couldn't stand 1 year of university, let alone another 2 on top of my undergrad.

In other news, I write my RCMP aptitude exam tomorrow night. I'm hella nervous.[/QUOTE]

Eh, you'll be fine. I've got a couple of buddies who've gone through the whole process, and say it's not fine as long as you're in shape, and have nothing to hide.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236629]Eh, you'll be fine. I've got a couple of buddies who've gone through the whole process, and say it's not fine as long as you're in shape, and have nothing to hide.[/QUOTE]

Dang, so I'd have to tell them about my drug trafficking, exotic animal trade and the fact that I was actually born Davina, a Russian female?

[QUOTE=DaveSavesTheDay;17236676]Dang, so I'd have to tell them about my drug trafficking, exotic animal trade and the fact that I was actually born Davina, a Russian female?[/QUOTE]

Correct. :p

They'll ask if you you've ever engaged in bestiality, though.

Seriously.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236681]Correct. :p

They'll ask if you you've ever engaged in bestiality, though.

Seriously.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I read through some of the questions. Some of them are truly bizarre.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17233796]lmao everyone is a professional film critic i forgot about that[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say professional but I have spent 5 non-consecutive years studying film, television as well as creative writing and film reviewing.

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17237035]I wouldn't say professional but I have spent 5 non-consecutive years studying film, television as well as creative writing and film reviewing.[/QUOTE]

thats actually pretty cool i didnt know that

i am not a critic-hater like most "artists" or "film makers" are so werd.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17236379]Nah, not awful. It's what I want to do. I'm not even going to seriously look for a job until after my MA.

Unless something happens during my time off to drastically change my desires, I've got probably several more years of school left (assuming my masters is the bare minimum). Might go for a PhD, even.[/QUOTE]

Serious question Ben, what IS it you actually want to do? I'm doing a creative writing degree in lieu of journalism because it covers a much broader range of writing [I]including[/I] journalism and also has literature components and stylistics/writing theory units. Main reason being because it's what I'm best at, ideally wanting to just freelance around doing odds and ends whilst working a day job in something I love like animals/pet/aquarium industry. Oh, and because it gives me skills I need to write half-decent fiction.

But you're doing some kind of English Lit. course right? Are you aiming do be a linguistics/stylistics writer or something?

[QUOTE=Raayl;17237041]thats actually pretty cool i didnt know that

i am not a critic-hater like most "artists" or "film makers" are so werd.[/QUOTE]

I'm not surprised dude, you don't know anything about me :eek:

I wouldn't call myself a critic at all, I know how to write film analysis' and critiques and reviews, but it's not really what I want to do. I toyed with the idea of studying film too, but I was infinitely better at pre-production and film theory than actually making anything; so my current studies help me with screen writing and such as well.

I'm not a critic hater, but you have to take everything with a grain of salt, especially old pricks like Roger Ebert, he has all the experience in the world but after a while I think he just forgot that not all films are pieces of artwork and are intended for pure entertainment. Just like anything, pop music, pop lit, cigarettes, whatever. There's always a division between "serious" films (even with over the top plots and ideas) and films that are still "good" but aren't intended to be taken seriously; the whole poking fun at yourself notion.

Like B-Grades, and so-bad-it's-good, but to a lesser degree. I like films that are just pure entertainment sometimes, like Cloverfield or Quarantine, the whole first person thing, no plot, just go go go.