[QUOTE=The JoZ]Uh, Petrucci doesn't use one finger powerchords, he only uses standard tunings.

If both guitars are in low G#, their respective tunings are.

Myung: G#-C#-F#-B-E-A
Petrucci: G#-C#-F#-B-E-G#-C#

The main riff of the song should be, theoretically, played with a bunch of open C's...but they don't have any C strings with a low G# tuning...[/QUOTE]
he tuned down for home and other parts of SFAM, so why not this album?

So petrucci's not using a powerchord?

Even if he was that wouldn't be that tricky to play...his strech pwns mine and i could make that strech easy. Only 6 frets. i don't see why it has to be open C...

i thought Octavarium (O) had its strong points "these walls" is awesome, but i still prefer tot.
i guess bc of the guitar solos in tot were better imo
i'll keep listening to O and see if it will grow on me

Did Petrucci tune up or down for ToT? I always thought he tuned down for ToT, but if he tuned up, **** his guitar must have a good neck.

[QUOTE=vashts80]Did Petrucci tune up or down for ToT? I always thought he tuned down for ToT, but if he tuned up, **** his guitar must have a good neck.[/QUOTE]
He tunes down in ToT IMO. Listen the Endless sacrifice opening, the very first note - its D on sixth string

he detuned to c standard (all strings down 2 whole steps) for a lot of the songs. some songs he used a 7 string on, and Stream of Conciousness is in Eb.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]The main riff of the song should be, theoretically, played with a bunch of open C's...but they don't have any C strings with a low G# tuning...[/QUOTE]

But they have C strings with a low G tuning....now THAT is something to think about.... :D

Clearvision - Yes, they will be covering an album for the second set, ala MOP. However, hopefully it will be a classic prog album this year, like a Yes or Rush album. I love MOP but they need a new album for the official bootlegs, remember? :p Would love for them to do Drama (that's not too likely though) or Permanent Waves.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]But they have C strings with a low G tuning....now THAT is something to think about.... :D [/QUOTE]

I've already thought of that.

It is possible they could be in low G instead of G#, but it really only makes it easier on Petrucci, because Myung doesn't play the main riff with a low open C, but a...normal...open C.

Bleh, either way, I'm 99% sure it's a low G# being played.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]MWAHHAHAHAA!!

6 days, 3 gigs, 2 bands, one venue!

Hammersmith Apollo, London in October -

19th - Steve Vai
24th - Dream Theater
25th - Dream Theater with a classic album as the second set

*sploogesploogesploogesploogesplooge*[/QUOTE]

need to get to one of those

would they be adding more UK venues later on? 1 doesn't seem like many even for DT, and i was really hoping to see DT this time round

*is seeing Vai in wolverhampton on the 20th*

hey
ive grown up listenen to dream theater
and i personaly think they kick ***
anyone who thinks any of the DT musicians should leave
should go jump of a cliff or sumptin. the only thing i could agree with
is more BASS. way more. u can hear some bass in images and words but thats about all. the solo on learning to live at about 10:03 minutes into the song is cool.
if u listen close you can hear it and he has talent.
i think "pull me under" is my favorite song out of all of em

Does anyone else think that "These Walls" is too generic? It just doesn't seem to be that good to me.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]MWAHHAHAHAA!!

6 days, 3 gigs, 2 bands, one venue!

Hammersmith Apollo, London in October -

19th - Steve Vai
24th - Dream Theater
25th - Dream Theater with a classic album as the second set

*sploogesploogesploogesploogesplooge*[/QUOTE]
where and when can i get a ticket for the DT hammersmith show?

Great band
 

Dream Theater are some of the most talented people I've heard. I own Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory, Once In a LiveTime, and Octavarium. Those are the most impressive pieces of music I have ever heard. I wish they'd let John Myung show what he can though... it sucks that he doesn't get enough credit because he really is a good bassist.

Great band... they always seem to put something out that's worth listening to.

just wondering, how many bpm can john pertucci play?

I bet he can play at least 20 notes per second, I know someone who can play 16.

I just bought the Octavarium the other day and I have to say wow! :amaze: I'm so in love with the title track! Especially that little acoustic lick around 17:50. I'm still undecided on the rest of the songs, but that one song is enough for me to like this album. I'll have to listen to it a few more times before I decide on the other songs.

[QUOTE=Rotak]Dream Theater are some of the most talented people I've heard. I own Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory, Once In a LiveTime, and Octavarium. Those are the most impressive pieces of music I have ever heard. I wish they'd let John Myung show what he can though... it sucks that he doesn't get enough credit because he really is a good bassist.

[/QUOTE]

Listen to Octavarium again and pay attention to the bass throughout it. Myung is higher in the mix, and has several cool grooves throughout the album. Still not the focus of the music like Petrucci and Rudess, but this is definetly a good album for Myung.

I can't stop listening to "These Walls". It's a poppy song, but the chorus is so catchy and I absolutely love the ending, especially when JR throws in the strings. Just an awesome song all around.

When all the people like John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy are soloing, what does the singer do?

He goes backstage.

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]I bet he can play at least 20 notes per second, I know someone who can play 16.[/QUOTE]
In the "As I Am" solo, he plays something like 32 notes in a bar, which is probably around 24 notes a second. he also picks all the notes, with no hammer-ons or tapping, which is much more impressive. any joker and play 20 notes a second tapping with both hands.

i havent been to the store to by Octavarium yet, but i plan on buying it tomorrow. until then, i downloaded all the tracks on limewire, however, i dont think that any of them are labelled right. they all sounds like rad songs, but i think its wrong. i read somewhere that panic attack is their fastest song so far, yet its not like that on my computer, whereas the root of all evil is very fast. if anyone could give me a brief description of the songs, that would be awesome. thanks in advance.

Im thinking of going to see Dream Theater and Megadeth on the Gigantour this summer but I have a couple of questions before I buy any tickets. First of all, who is headlining? Im not really much of a Megadeth fan and Im not sure how long I would want to sit through **** I dont like to hear the REAL music. Secondly, do you think DT will be playing mostly stuff from Octavarium (which from what Ive heard so far is pretty ****in good) or do you think they will play more of their classics? If any of you have seen them on this tour already I would really love to hear what you thought of them.

DT usually play a good chunk of the album they're touring for, and throw in a few classics as well

I really wanna go to both the shows in London, its just a tricky place for me to get to which is annoying, and I'd have to stay somewhere overnight for the 2nd show.
The classic album cover should be interesting, buts its kind of hit or miss - if its an album you like it will be amazing, if its an album you don't like it may be a little boring

[QUOTE=royman2001]He goes backstage.[/QUOTE]

or he stands on stage shaking his maracas. i don't know why though, considering you can never even hear them. although i do have a video from the 6DOIT tour where he has his own little raised platform like Jordan, with some bongos and a table for his various percussion instruments. but he does usually go backstage during the longer instrumental sections.

There's only a handful of frontmen who can keep the crowd entertained during instrumental sections anyway (e.g. Bruce Dickinson, Freddie Mercury), and those bands dont have 10 minute plus instrumentals

I really like James LaBrie as a front man.
but I don't really think it's up to the frontman to keep the crowd going during instrumental sections, the instruments take care of that.
and if the instruments can't captured the attention of the crowd, there is something wrong with the songwritingstyle of the band.

I don't think anyone will get bored when DT plays stream of conciousness live ;)

Wow, I just realised that Dream Theater were playing London! Does anyone know if they will stick in a Manchester date, or are these shows all they are going to play in UK? I really want to see them again, but I'm not sure if I will be able to get time of school and if my friends will be able to get time off work/school to go away (we're from Edinburgh, expensive trip for 15/16 year olds).

I'm definately going though, even if I'm on my own. They better play Octavarium (the song) in it's entirity, which is now officially my favourite Dream Theater song ever.

I just booked my ticket for London on the 25th of October. That's the second night, where they play a classic album in it's entirety. :) It's all seating though, and as far as I know it's first-come-first-served, so I don't know where I'll be sitting.

[QUOTE=azathoth]Wow, I just realised that Dream Theater were playing London! Does anyone know if they will stick in a Manchester date, or are these shows all they are going to play in UK? [/QUOTE]
Mike has said that there will be a Manchester date, to be announced soon.