maudlin of the wellllllll

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motW is the sickest.

****. north korea has the bomb.

eh. whatever...

eh. glad you can't vote...

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414161]****. north korea has the bomb.[/QUOTE]
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414189]eh. glad you can't vote...[/QUOTE]

dude. we could destroy north korea given the opportunity.

north korea is nothing to be afraid of. north korea is like the p'ussy nation that wants recognition in an era where there is none to be given


iran is the truely scary s'hit

Granted we could destroy them, but with one bomb they can kill thousands of innocent people. Even though we could destroy this whole f[size="2"]u[/size]cking planet, we aren't going to. We don't know if North Korea will use that one bomb to kill innocent people, that s[size="2"]h[/size]it is f[size="2"]u[/size]cking scary and if you think not get your head out your a[size="2"]s[/size]s and be scared.

Nothing personal against you Matt.

i don't think it could really come to that. i guarantee we have hundreds to thousands of CIA agents planning exactly how to prevent that from occuring.

the US policy has been preemptive strikes for the past fifty years, so i don't really worry about it coming to that, if it even neared that possibility we would take care of buisness before anything could happen.

it definitely sucks that there are dumba'sses with powerful weapons but theres a lot of dangerous stuff out there, and it's one of our governments main jobs to keep that stuff away from us as much as possible.

haha. high school education sucks these day. the cia doesn't plan military strikes.

do you even know what preemption means?

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414286]haha. high school education sucks these day. the cia doesn't plan military strikes.

[/QUOTE]

Dumba'ss read my post again

Almost done with this ****.

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that's a pretty well thought out list.

Economic sanctions and diplomacy are more important than militaristic measures

The only reason NK is messing with nuclear policy in the first place is because of their economy

[QUOTE=Matt?;13414293]Dumba'ss read my post again[/QUOTE]
i read your post. and i didn't think i had to lay everything out step by step for you. but i guess i do.

the cia probably has at best a handful of human assets in north korea, if even that many. they certainly do not have the ability to prevent north korea from using nuclear weapons. other than that, the cia mainly collects analyzes intelligence. the only way to really prevent north korea from ever using its nuclear weapons is by military strikes. hence my much shorter statement, "the cia doesn't plan military strikes."

and can you tell me what preemption means, because your use of it doesn't make much sense to me.

preemptive: 2. taken as a measure against something possible, anticipated, or feared; preventive; deterrent: a preemptive tactic against a ruthless business rival.


what i mean is if the CIA ever percieved even the smallest amount of threat that that bomb was gonna be launched, there would be extensive military and diplomatic actions by our government and army to prevent it.

look at iraq.

I have a feeling a big political debate is coming in this thread, and I'm gonna go ahead and say, "DON'T HAVE ONE!" Thanks.

[QUOTE=Matt?;13414372]preemptive: 2. taken as a measure against something possible, anticipated, or feared; preventive; deterrent: a preemptive tactic against a ruthless business rival.


what i mean is if the CIA ever percieved even the smallest amount of threat that that bomb was gonna be launched, there would be extensive military and diplomatic actions by our government and army to prevent it.

look at iraq.[/QUOTE]
hahahahhaha. ya, the cia was dead on about iraq.

and no, when you talk about preemption in a geopolitical context you can't simply copy a dictionary definition. it has come to be agreed in international law that preemptive strikes fall under the self-defense article of the united nations (i forget the exact number at the moment). under that, preemptive strikes can be taken against a nation readying to launch an offensive, usually this would involve a buildup of forces at border regions, putting military forces on alert, making threatening statements, and breaking off diplomatic relations. a good example is the 1967 war, and whether that legally met the qualifications necessary for preemption is still debated. most countries in the world claim the right to preemption under the un charter. so i really don't understand why you would state that its US policy as if that should for some reason allay fears over north korea.

furthermore, it really wouldn't be applicable for at least a decade, as north korea is at least that long away from being able to develop and deploy missiles that could reach the US. the fears over a nuclear north korea are much more complex than them simply attacking us. so preemption really has no relevance.

[QUOTE=whiteminority;13414461]I have a feeling a big political debate is coming in this thread, and I'm gonna go ahead and say, "DON'T HAVE ONE!" Thanks.[/QUOTE]
hahaha. too late.

take it to the political forum guys. let me stay here and pretend the only problems in the world is my heart breaking.

seriously don't bring it in here.

[QUOTE]hahahahhaha. ya, the cia was dead on about iraq[/QUOTE]
doesn't matter. precuations were made
[quote]
and no, when you talk about preemption in a geopolitical context you can't simply copy a dictionary definition. it has come to be agreed in international law that preemptive strikes fall under the self-defense article of the united nations (i forget the exact number at the moment). under that, preemptive strikes can be taken against a nation readying to launch an offensive, usually this would involve a buildup of forces at border regions, putting military forces on alert, making threatening statements, and breaking off diplomatic relations. a good example is the 1967 war, and whether that legally met the qualifications necessary for preemption is still debated. most countries in the world claim the right to preemption under the un charter. so i really don't understand why you would state that its US policy as if that should for some reason allay fears over north korea.[/quote]
you obviously have more education or knowledge in the political realm, but i've lived in this country long enough to know that if someone has weapons and is threatening to use them on someone else, we really don't tolerate that. we have been born in war and we will grow up through war. we don't just let people launch bombs at us or other countries. this is what our trillions of dollars go towards.

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furthermore, it really wouldn't be applicable for at least a decade, as north korea is at least that long away from being able to develop and deploy missiles that could reach the US. the fears over a nuclear north korea are much more complex than them simply attacking us. so preemption really has no relevance.[/QUOTE]

well than we have plenty more to fear for the next decade.

Oh politics, how silly of you to sneak into the Emo Community Thread.

I'm not gonna give my point of view on the subject because this isn't the politics forum.

Someone wanna YSI me the 2 Minus The Bear albums? Or some really good skram? I'm in the mood for skram I haven't heard.

-Gav

[QUOTE=Matt?;13414520]doesn't matter. precuations were made

you obviously have more education or knowledge in the political realm, but i've lived in this country long enough to know that if someone has weapons and is threatening to use them on someone else, we really don't tolerate that. we have been born in war and we will grow up through war. we don't just let people launch bombs at us or other countries. this is what our trillions of dollars go towards. [/QUOTE]
i really respect your faith in your country. don't get me wrong, i think its the greatest nation on earth, and the world is lucky to have us as the dominant power istead of the former soviets, the chinese, or the islamists. but in reality, your expectations haven't been borne out. the world is a much more complex place, where even America isn't powerful enough to always keep the it safe.
[QUOTE=Matt?;13414520]well than we have plenty more to fear for the next decade.[/QUOTE]
i don't understand this

[QUOTE=SunnyDayRealEstateAM;13414477]take it to the political forum guys. let me stay here and pretend the only problems in the world is my heart breaking.

seriously don't bring it in here.[/QUOTE]
YOU CAN'T MEND MY BROKEN HEART!!!!!

[QUOTE=Cobert]Oh politics, how silly of you to sneak into the Emo Community Thread.[/QUOTE]
It is a very naughty little politics, now you shoo on back to World Issues forum.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass;13414551]I'm not gonna give my point of view on the subject because this isn't the politics forum.

Someone wanna YSI me the 2 Minus The Bear albums? Or some really good skram? I'm in the mood for skram I haven't heard.

-Gav[/QUOTE]
so we can talk about video games, tv, movies, girls, ect. but not politics?

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414564]i really respect your faith in your country. don't get me wrong, i think its the greatest nation on earth, and the world is lucky to have us as the dominant power istead of the former soviets, [B][U]the chinese[/U][/B], or the islamists. but in reality, your expectations haven't been borne out. the world is a much more complex place, where even America isn't powerful enough to always keep the it safe.[/QUOTE]
Screw them chinks, they can't even drive because they can hardly see!

=oP

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414568]so we can talk about video games, tv, movies, girls, ect. but not politics?[/QUOTE]
Yes, because politics irks the sh[size="2"]i[/size]t out of people.

[QUOTE=whiteminority;13414579]Screw them chinks, they can't even drive because they can hardly see!

=oP[/QUOTE]
hahahha. racism. always funny.

[QUOTE=srt-4;13414568]so we can talk about video games, tv, movies, girls, ect. but not politics?[/QUOTE]

No, you can, obviously. I'm just not giving mine because it's not the politics forum and I came here to discuss emo and various random topics. :p

Feel free. I don't care. It's a community thread.

-Gav