Thanks for the help what size would you reccomend for the crash? I was thinking 16 inches...Also I hate to sound like a brand whore but is there anything like the K Custom Fast Crash in the Sabian line? Or vice versa with anything in the Zildjian line like the AA ride? Also I forgot to mention I play mostly Classic Rock/Punk rockish stuff with a little bit of jazz thrown in there. Do you think these cymbals will suit the genres I tend to play?

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Is there such thing as a "trashy" ride? Maybe try small copper plates around the edges? You could always look for a Sabian O-Zone ride (if they exist).[/QUOTE]

if i hear correctly, the Hand Hammered Jazz Ride has a bit of trash to it....not much, but a tid bit

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Is there such thing as a "trashy" ride? Maybe try small copper plates around the edges? You could always look for a Sabian O-Zone ride (if they exist).[/QUOTE]

You could try the K Custom Dry Complex rides, they are supposed to be a bit trashy

Good call.

[QUOTE=Rilez]Thanks for the help what size would you reccomend for the crash? I was thinking 16 inches...Also I hate to sound like a brand whore but is there anything like the K Custom Fast Crash in the Sabian line? Or vice versa with anything in the Zildjian line like the AA ride? Also I forgot to mention I play mostly Classic Rock/Punk rockish stuff with a little bit of jazz thrown in there. Do you think these cymbals will suit the genres I tend to play?[/QUOTE]

20" A Medium Ride for Zildjian ... I'm not sure if there's a crash like that for Sabian. Does it really matter? A cymbal is a cymbal, and if it sounds good play it.

you could use a Hand Hammered Thin Crash

JoJo Mayer has a sig. "Fierce Ride" thats supposed to be slightl trashy... like his sig. crashes.

yeah, forgot about that one...that thing roars.

awesome thanks guys

What would you guys concider the strongest cymbals out there?

strongest as in?.....

durable, i'm a hard hitter :P

if your breaking anything over a medium weight, you should seek help from a teacher.

i am going to talk with my teacher bout this, however i still want to know :P

it really subjective

Paiste RUDE, Zildjia Z Custom, and AA Metal-X would be designed for the heavy hitters, but dont exactly sound pleasant for the ears

Look for Rock weights, they are usally medium-heavy and still sound good, unlike Z Custom "manhole lids".

I personally find Mediums plenty heavy, you don't need anything heavier.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I personally find Mediums plenty heavy, you don't need anything heavier.[/QUOTE]

sure dont.....leave the heavyness to the rides.

[QUOTE]What would you guys concider the strongest cymbals out there?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much the heaviest ones will be the strongest, assuming they are made well.

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]sure dont.....leave the heavyness to the rides.[/QUOTE]

unless you use rides as crashes...

i do crash on my ride sometimes but not really hard.
i'm gonna buy a new crash, an 18". Which one would you guys recommend (i'm a pop/rock/alt rock drummer and already have 16" paiste 802 crash and i am a hard-hitter): Zildjian K dark, Sabian AA or a Ufip Class Series.

Sabian AA Medium Crashes are really nice.

yeah man, i can vouch for those.

And I can agree with them as well. 18" Medium all the way!

gonna get one of those too :lol:

a perfect match to my 16"

a small splash smaller then 12" but not 12" and also made by zildjian z custom. the sound im looking for is sharp and snappy but im not quite shore what size

[QUOTE=blujelly]a small splash smaller then 12" but not 12" and also made by zildjian z custom. the sound im looking for is sharp and snappy but im not quite shore what size[/QUOTE]

ummmmm 10'

[QUOTE=blujelly]a small splash smaller then 12" but not 12" and also made by zildjian z custom. the sound im looking for is sharp and snappy but im not quite shore what size[/QUOTE]

There is only one Z Custom splash (12"), and it's awful.

[QUOTE=blabla]i do crash on my ride sometimes but not really hard.
i'm gonna buy a new crash, an 18". Which one would you guys recommend (i'm a pop/rock/alt rock drummer and already have 16" paiste 802 crash and i am a hard-hitter): Zildjian K dark, Sabian AA or a Ufip Class Series.[/QUOTE]


get the aa

Sabian equivelent to the Ping Ride?