We'll just have to agree to disagree :p

dredg=good

/topic

Seriously though CWA doesn't really sound progressive to me. Straight up modern rock with some progressive things in it.

No such thing as progressive pop. Brittany Spears could never make any of her songs progressive and have them still called pop.

Since we're on the topic of dredg, I personally think that Leitmotif kicks the living crap out of their other two albums. I'm probably alone on this, as most people seem to adore El Cielo, but I really dig Leitmotif. I really didn't appreciate the album until I learned a few of the songs from it on guitar. I took Engles' style for granted, but after learning Symbol Song and Movement I (numbers go here), I began to realize how unique of a style he has.

[QUOTE=Moses]Seriously though CWA doesn't really sound progressive to me. Straight up modern rock with some progressive things in it.

No such thing as progressive pop. Brittany Spears could never make any of her songs progressive and have them still called pop.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. What if she started using a more unique song structure, and had longer songs, but still overall the same general type of music?

And yes, I am arguing just for the sake of it. :D


/hasn't heard any Dredg

Well you only got El Cielo a little while ago.@ Jake

Pop= popular music
unique song structures= not popular

In fact:
unique= not popular

[QUOTE=Moses]Well you only got El Cielo a little while ago.@ Jake

Pop= popular music
unique song structures= not popular

In fact:
unique= not popular[/QUOTE]
Tr00f. :upset:


/looses the argument I never really supported

You can't seriously be calling all pop music monotoneous. Pop doesn't mean mainstream by the way. Indie-pop bands like The Arcade Fire and The Shins are definitley unique.

Never said monotoneous just not unique, because if you want to be popular you can't do somthing weird, atleast nobody has. Indie-pop isn't really pop anyway.

Lightbulb Sun is a pop album, yet at the same time, it is very progressive. If jazz metal can be done, then prog pop can be done.

Lightbulb Sun is not pop. It's rock to me.

Songs like How is your Life Today?, Where We Would Be,The Rest Will Flow , and Feel so Low make me think otherwise. Those songs are definitely pop, no doubt. Every song has very poppy moments, but then again, it is also a very progressive album.

That's why I'd consider it a prog pop album. :shrug:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Since we're on the topic of dredg, I personally think that Leitmotif kicks the living crap out of their other two albums. I'm probably alone on this, as most people seem to adore El Cielo, but I really dig Leitmotif. I really didn't appreciate the album until I learned a few of the songs from it on guitar. I took Engles' style for granted, but after learning Symbol Song and Movement I (numbers go here), I began to realize how unique of a style he has.[/QUOTE]

I agree, Leitmotif is my favorite.. The reason you mentioned being one of them... The main riff for Symbol Song is pure genius..
Another reason is that the album feels like a journey, moreso than any other cd I've heard.... The booklet enhanced this quite a bit

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]/hasn't heard any Dredg[/QUOTE]
3 albums of Dredg stat!

Talking about Dredg...

El cielo - Alternative
Catch without arms - Electronica

I saw it somewhere under that classification. hehe.

CD stores.

[QUOTE=Moses]3 albums of Dredg stat![/QUOTE]
Genre?

It beats the cd store that, even though they highly recommended CWOA, they compared it with Linkin Park.
I mean, even if you like Linkin Park, they have absolutely nothing in common

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Genre?[/QUOTE]

Ingenious-rock

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Ingenious-rock[/QUOTE]
Anybody feel like sending a sample? :D

Got AIM?

Msn only. :upset:

Can't help you then, sorry :\

I'm off to bed guys... Take care.

[QUOTE=Otherside]Can't help you then, sorry :\

I'm off to bed guys... Take care.[/QUOTE]
Bye. :upset:

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Msn only. :upset:[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna add you. You rock.

[QUOTE=toaster135]I'm gonna add you. You rock.[/QUOTE]
Cool. Thanks. :thumb:

I'll send a sample.

I heard nothing on Catch Without Arms that even hinted at progression, it was very disappointing.

sorry, but i'm just wondering, does dredg have anything to do with tool? :wave:

or can we just talk about any band in here?

:P

[QUOTE=Moses]I'll send a sample.[/QUOTE]
Thanks dude! That was quite the sample!

I'll listen after Enemies of Reality... :thumb:

Has anybody heard anything about the new album music/sound wise? Like will it sound like any of the previous albums? I haven't been keeping up to date.

carey's supposed to be using electric drums for some of the album. i dont know how i feel about that.

Danny said it was going to be heavier and more progressive then Lateralus.


/drools

That sounds nice, any leaks on an album or song title yet?

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]That sounds nice, any leaks on an album or song title yet?[/QUOTE]

You would like that wouldn't you? :(

[QUOTE=chongi]I heard nothing on Catch Without Arms that even hinted at progression, it was very disappointing.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what you mean by progression. If you mean progressive rock, you listened to the completely wrong album for that. If you meant making progress as a band and progressing from their old material, then I see where you're coming from.

I [i]don't[/i] think CWoA is a good introduction to the band, in any case.

I enjoy CWoA a lot, but, in retrospect, I really think they could have done something better, even with the songs they had. Rather than making songs like Zebraskin, Sang Real, and Jamais Vu pop songs, they should've Dredg-ed 'em up a bit more. :-/

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Danny said it was going to be heavier and more progressive then Lateralus.


/drools[/QUOTE]

I like the sound of that.

/double drools

eh, i really like catch without arms. moreso than el cielo.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]That sounds nice, any leaks on an album or song title yet?[/QUOTE]

Not yet, but there is that joke song from a couple weeks back, 81st Chakra. I thought it was hilarious. You should give it a listen :thumb:

81st Chakra is a master peice.

I remember seeing on a page that the new album is due May, i guess we'll have to wait until then.