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One Groovin Clown 12-19-2005 10:44 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]DVD's tomorrow. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm going Christmas shopping tommorow, i'll see if i can either check them out or maybe even pick one up.

ThePatient 12-19-2005 11:36 PM

*has a fresh $20 bill in pocket*

Oh no... :(

Darkness 12-20-2005 05:14 PM

Alright, who bought? Details?

Kage 12-20-2005 05:16 PM

Not me. I was even Best Buy and walked right past them!

/victory

Futuro 12-20-2005 05:18 PM

Couldnt find em at best buy :(

Darkness 12-20-2005 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]Couldnt find em at best buy :([/QUOTE]
Coudln't find them at cd plus. :(

Dr. Jake Destructo 12-20-2005 09:27 PM

What the hell? I would have figured that at least a handful of people would already have the DVDs. :confused:

Wierd. Maybe we've been dooped. :eek:

Darkness 12-20-2005 09:31 PM

I'm getting them for christmas, I just wanted to check them out at the store... only time will tell...

mudvayne420 12-21-2005 12:24 PM

i got it yesterday And to say most of you will be dissapointed with the way its presented in which to me seems HALF-***. The commentary, is doubled, its trippy to hear, its pretty hard to understand what he's saying, but its pretty funny. It comes with pics of the vid, and some behind the scenes pics. It's alright but, it seems they HAD to release a DVD, but they didn't want to. I'm just glad i got the videos.

Kage 12-21-2005 12:43 PM

I didn't expect any more or less than pure dissapointment.

Why do I want funny commentary about the videos? Christ, this pisses me off. What a lackluster and sub-par product.

paganman7 12-21-2005 01:14 PM

Despite my best intentions, I bought them yesterday. The commentaries are absolutely worthless. Even if they were understandable, they had little, if anything, to do with the videos or the music. I appreciate that two has-beens should not be telling us what they think of Tool music, but their commentary was worthless; it was like having your dumbest, least eduacated friend over, getting him stoned, and then listening to him talk about a music video.

These things are crap.

omgwtfboogie 12-21-2005 03:23 PM

I'm so tired of everyone trashing the singles, so before I review:

First of all, they are DVD SINGLES. This means that they are one song with a few extra things thrown in. I'm tired of hearing, "OMGZ WHERE R DA NU SONGZ LAWL?!!`1" coming out of every damn Tool fan's mouth. It's a single, you get what you get. If you expected more, you're retarded. If you wanted both to be released on the same disc, once again...it's a single. (Although that is a more valid argument than the previous, and I see where you're coming from.)

Second...Lustmord is an AMBIENT artist. If you don't know what ambient music is, look it up and you'll see why the remixes turned out the way they did. I mean honestly. If you bitch about that you're missing pieces of information.. B. Lustmord remixed the songs using his style to manipulate them.

Okay, so now that I got that out of the way, I must say I love both of the videos. Now instead of turning on my computer to watch them, I can put them on the TV! Woot.

The commentaries are not what I expected them to be. Jello Biafra is a damn smart guy, but the relationship between Tool and him doesn't make much sense. I'd rather have a band member or someone like Alex Grey commentate. But hey...I can always turn the commentary off.

The remixes might just be something I personally like. I'm a fan of Lustmord's work, so him remixing Tool is pretty special to me. Good stuff.

The menus...well let's see another band put something together like that. Granted, they are just menus and all, but still. Artistic++

Of course, another thing about the DVD singles: the copies I have had a sticker on them claiming the release of the next Tool album will be in Spring 2006. We all know that, but it's always nice to hear.

All in all, worth the money. They're eight bucks, they have the videos, art, Lustmord Remixes, and commentary. Even if they only contained the videos, they would be well worth it.

:chug:

denboy 12-21-2005 03:29 PM

^^ was that post directed at anyone on these forums?

omgwtfboogie 12-21-2005 03:30 PM

I do not know. Has anyone here complained about that stuff? I know on other boards they sure have. People just can't grasp the concept of a single..

One Groovin Clown 12-21-2005 06:50 PM

i know what i'm getting for Christmas form my sister. Shes getting me the toolology dvd. I'm actually quite interested to see it. I had teh choice between: Toology, parabola single, or the schism single. I chose the dvd because i though that i might never have another chance to get it.

Darkness 12-21-2005 07:34 PM

I heard that DVD was complete crap... I would have gotten one of the singles. :p

BlindWriting 12-21-2005 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=One Groovin Clown]i know what i'm getting for Christmas form my sister. Shes getting me the toolology dvd. I'm actually quite interested to see it. I had teh choice between: Toology, parabola single, or the schism single. I chose the dvd because i though that i might never have another chance to get it.[/QUOTE]
The reviews for Toology on amazon.com says that it's easily one of the worst things ever released on DVD, laughably awful. The band had nothing to do with the making of it.

Dried Muffin Remnants 12-21-2005 08:19 PM

I am proud to say that I have not/will not purchase this... A live DVD on the other hand...

paganman7 12-21-2005 08:36 PM

[QUOTE]I'm tired of hearing, "OMGZ WHERE R DA NU SONGZ LAWL?!!`1" coming out of every damn Tool fan's mouth. It's a single, you get what you get. If you expected more, you're retarded.[/QUOTE]

Get off your soap box and take it easy with the condescension! These DVDs were crap.

Moses 12-21-2005 08:43 PM

Seriously that's really dissappointing. All this time and all they could do was give us these overpriced DVD singles? WTF MATE!!!

Darkness 12-21-2005 09:33 PM

8 bucks is overpriced? I think not, personally.

ThePatient 12-21-2005 09:41 PM

Why pay $8 when I can sit and watch the video on my computer, and commentate them myself. I care more about what I have to say then the guys they got to do them.

BlindWriting 12-21-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]Why pay $8 when I can sit and watch the video on my computer, and commentate them myself. I care more about what I have to say then the guys they got to do them.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I'm planning on borrowing both from a friend of mine who got each one already, so I'm definitely not wasting a dime.

Moses 12-21-2005 10:12 PM

My friend said they were like 10 bucks so, yeah.

Darkness 12-21-2005 10:13 PM

^That dude up there said 8. I'd probably still buy it for 10 though, I'd really like to have the DVD quality version of the Parabola video... <3

But thats just me.

Aaron_Of_Oz 12-22-2005 01:17 AM

tool are a very good band. maynard is a very good vocalist. i am looking foward to the new album too!

ShadowMan 12-22-2005 02:00 AM

Saw "DVD" and got excited the live one may finally be out.....
Is now disappointed.

paganman7 12-22-2005 03:34 PM

At Best Buy, Schism is $7.99 and Parabola is $9.99.

Magicaltroll 12-22-2005 04:01 PM

Where the hell is the November newsletter?

Killtacular 12-22-2005 04:23 PM

Concealed firmly within the depths of Blair's a[size=2]s[/size]s.

Shadius 12-22-2005 04:37 PM

I like how everyones pissed off because they illegally downloaded videos that wern't up for release yet. Those videos are amazing artwork; i'd say worth a few bucks/quid for each one isn't too much to ask. I'd like to own them in DVD quality.

Imagine what it was like the first time you saw the Schism/Parabola videos on your computer and you could watch them whenever you wanted. I'm sure most of you watched them a few times at least. Well, most Tool fans will get that, and in far superior quality. Most of whom might only have seen them on TV when they were released (If they were lucky) or maybe clips from the bands shows. Not everyone d/ls all the videos ripped from TV, and the band wouldn't expect you to, they crafted those videos and don't expect people to just steal all that art for free; so I see where they're coming from.

Having said that, from what I'm hearing about the commentaries; I wish they were better. I'll be getting mine shipped from america within the next few weeks, so we'll see. I'm also a little excited to hear the remixes of the songs in a different style.

Everyone was hoping for so much with these singles, thats why everyones saying they're utter crap. Everyone was like.. I bet theres a few more tracks on, or more special features, etc. *shrug*

I bet everyone complains when the live DVD comes out because it's the OK show, or something. That'd be hilarious.

You get what you pay for. The new album, on the other hand, that'll be something we can all enjoy.

paganman7 12-22-2005 06:25 PM

[QUOTE]Imagine what it was like the first time you saw the Schism/Parabola videos on your computer and you could watch them whenever you wanted. I'm sure most of you watched them a few times at least. Well, most Tool fans will get that, and in far superior quality.[/QUOTE]

This is the most cognitive, rational defense of the DVDs I've heard so far; well said mate. My main complaint is that I just paid $19.00 for two videos...let me say that again, I just paid $19.00 for two videos. Videos on iTunes cost $1.99 each, end of story. The commentaries are absolutely atrocious, incomprehensible nonsense.

I never had a complaint about the videos; the videos are fantastic. However, $19.00? Crikey!

Shadius 12-22-2005 06:29 PM

Really? If i'd lived in America I could have gotten both videos for $5.99 each off amazon (Free postage if i'd have put them along with some other stuff I wanted). 12 bucks is like.. what? 7 quid or something. That'd be worth it for me personally, especially considering I get the remixes as well. Any more, and I know what you mean.

They probably *should* have put both of them on the same DVD so we got something a bit more like a Salival II.

omgwtfboogie 12-22-2005 06:32 PM

I understand the whole "include them on one DVD" argument, but then how many bands include their singles on the same disc? None.

And don't give me some crap about singles collections, those don't count.

Shadius 12-22-2005 06:34 PM

Most bands don't release singles four years after an album's released, either.

To pick an example of a double single would be Muse's Dead Star/In your world double single.

paganman7 12-22-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE]Most bands don't release singles four years after an album's released, either.[/QUOTE]

Yahtzee! These DVDs are an attempt to assuage the impatience felt by most fans...they failed miserably.

Kage 12-22-2005 06:44 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]Why pay $8 when I can sit and watch the video on my computer, and commentate them myself. I care more about what I have to say then the guys they got to do them.[/QUOTE]
:lol: 123, man.

If you like the DVDs, then get out! You're not welcome here. This is a DVD-Singles-Bashing Zone.

Futuro 12-22-2005 07:44 PM

Well, I am glad I didnt buy them now. I just want a live DVD, and new music. :)

mudvayne420 12-22-2005 10:11 PM

who doesn't....well have you guys ever wondered they might be hinting something to us either about that crazy Alt. order, or the new album.....well when i listened to schism on this DVD i never noticed after the bridge that there were church sounding bells. i'm also starting to wonder if Their really is an alternative order......

Werny 12-22-2005 11:51 PM

[QUOTE=mudvayne420]who doesn't....well have you guys ever wondered they might be hinting something to us either about that crazy Alt. order, or the new album.....well when i listened to schism on this DVD i never noticed after the bridge that there were church sounding bells. i'm also starting to wonder if Their really is an alternative order......[/QUOTE]

Do you speak of the remix? Last time I checked there's definitely no church bells on the album version.

Get it? Church bells? Schism?


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