so The Who kick a.ss, amirite...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgVoDHOCfio[/url]

lol

yeah, Bargain and WGFA are the best tracks of Who's NExt, not counting the Deluxe Edition (where Naked Eye and Water are pretty damn good).

EDIT: due wtf is up with that cymbal angle? That drummer is pathetic.

Anybody have a youtube account to link them to a tr00 version?

i don't have an account. i don't think? :confused:

more My Generation covers:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxzYDq2PCpY&mode=related&search=[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxzYDq2PCpY&mode=related&search=[/url]

i think i actually prefer the second one more....

Keith Moon, actor :eek:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2xpT0w4pcQ[/url]

and wtf is Ringo up to in this thing?

also question for seafroggys: i hear some Buddy Rich style influence in Keith's playing? Big band/swing stuff, i mean?

one man Rock Opera:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNbOcYCes6s[/url]

this is pretty amusing/good. i actually watched it twice....

I've heard sources that Keith Moon was hugely inspired to play by Louie Belleson, another top notch and great big band/swing drummer. Louie was also the first player to popularize double bass drums, and both Moon and Ginger were inspired by him to apply it to their own setups.

Yeah, his over the top fills and playing could be more jazz influenced then any other style of music at the time. Look at the rest of the rock/pop world at this time. This is pre-Paice, Bonham, Peart, etc.

ic. thanks for the info...

more Moon "acting":

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjIgj0MITw[/url]

:smash:

[QUOTE=JXD;13480018] If you know The Who you know most of their records since Tommy were all different from one another yet ultimately still The Who.[/QUOTE]

I feel like this should include their three albums before Tommy as well, they were very different records (although I guess A Quick One and Sell Out have some similarities) but all them made the Who the band they were.

Yes you are correct. I often forget to mention the early ones. And I don't listen to them often enough anymore. Although I listened to a Quick One a couple weeks ago. Which isn't reviewed for sputnik yet so I might do a real simple one for it today.

The new one sounds like The Who if they had never went away and stuff, IMO. From what I can hear and if you know what I mean? Pete has a song where his vocal is so strange. It sounds like he just relaxed and let his voice fall into a very deep tenor. And the expanded mini opera sounds like, well, a mini opera now that the other three or four songs have been added. At least from what I can gather from poorly streamed 30 second clips :-\

I think that I'll wait for the album to be released before I listen to the recorded "Wire & Glass." I would just like to hear it in its entirety during my first listen. I have high hopes for it- when I heard what they played of it live I was really impressed. Of course, it was live, but still I was surprised of how good it was.

I also plan on waiting.

[QUOTE=robo2448;13486705]I also plan on waiting.[/QUOTE]

that's what they all say, until you get them drunk :naughty:

Ah

I couldn't help myself. I've started downloading a bunch of shows to burn to DVD. I'm watching one right now..

>_>

welll, I'm might as well post some pics from the gig. (this is in backwards order)

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010564.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010541.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010540.jpg[/IMG]

that's just about 1/3 of the encore pics :cool:

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[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010538.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010520.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010517.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010515.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010514.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010513.jpg[/IMG]

about 1/2 the rest

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010510.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010509.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010508.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010507.jpg[/IMG]

the opening act and the getting there

Did you have Rose Hill Drive as an opening act? I thought they weren't too bad.

yeah, I liked them actually.

:wave:

[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²;13491550]Ah

I couldn't help myself. I've started downloading a bunch of shows to burn to DVD. I'm watching one right now..

>_>[/QUOTE]
I need to get myself DVD a burner. I think I will look into that. I would love to do that stuff. I'm running out of space on both my HD's (especially C: ) so I can't really download loads of large content to store Somethings gotta give....
[QUOTE=Seafroggys;13492196]welll, I'm might as well post some pics from the gig. (this is in backwards order)

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010564.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010563.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010556.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010553.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010552.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010551.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010546.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010541.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010540.jpg[/IMG]

that's just about 1/3 of the encore pics :cool:

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010539.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010538.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010514.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010513.jpg[/IMG]

about 1/2 the rest

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[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/The%20Who/P1010507.jpg[/IMG]

the opening act and the getting there[/QUOTE]
those were great. if i could i'd rep you for all the effort but i can't since i recently have already. :-/

the show looks good. i hope the crowd is good. an older audience can often times be quite mellow. at least that is my experience going to see older artists. and some can be downright irritating, seemingly forgetting what a R&R gig is supposed to be about as they call the babysitters on their cell phones and keep running to the concession stands for another beer during "boring songs". we'll see....

[QUOTE=JXD;13485749]so The Who kick a.ss, amirite...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgVoDHOCfio[/url]

lol[/QUOTE]omfg they rock

Nice pictures. Everyone around me seemed to be way older. Yay old people fest.

Yeah thats often times a thorn in my side when going to gigs by older artisits. Does this happen to all of us when we age? Hope not. Often times the crowd dosen't shout, scream, jump, or anything. No real excitement, I guess you couold say. Sort of understandable. But at least suit up and show up for the night...

...and then I've had the opposite problem (i've been to a lot of gigs) of the older folks trying to relive the glory of their f'd up youth for a couple of hours by getting too drunk or stupidly "wild" and disrupting the entire show with their moronic antics. I'm 26 so i'm sort of at an in between age. And the younger people can be stupid, too. But at least they are supposed to be. And more often then not they are really excited to be there and experience it right. So that's usually cool. Kids with their parents are usually cool to be around, as all parties seem to have a good time.

I'm going alone so I have my plans. I have an aisle seat. So if I get seated next to morons at least they will be to the right of me only and I won't be stuck between idiots. Plus I'm arriving a bit late because Nov 5th is my brother in laws birthday and we are getting together in the afternoon to celebrate with lunch, drinks, etc. So i'm literally racing to the Hollywood Bowl from Pasadena in the evening, rushing in, and taking my seat. Most likely just in time for The Who. And since I'm going alone moving down front may be an option, too. So that will be fun.

But I want no disruptions! This is THE WHO. Last time around. And I will not tolerate foolishness around me! :smash:


EDIT: yeah, those youtube vids are great. funny stuff. check out the Bell Boy one if you have time. When he goes into the Keith part its pretty amusing. And he actually does a good job with the song...

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/[/url]

You know the drill. Click on Towser TV when you get there for a very good Swiss gig the band did in mid July. Full encore included. So watch it when you have time if you're going to watch the whole thing. It's looped so you never know what part you'll be coming in on.

I tried to make it down to the front by myself but there were way too many guards on the floor.

I think I can do it at the Hollywood Bowl. I've been there many times and I have a way of worming my way around. :shifty:

I just finsihed watching the gig from Pete's site. I gotta recommend it. Its an outdoor gig. Cold night, great crowd. They are playing at the end of a street. Colorfully lit apartments on either side, people watching from their balconies. I enjoyed it a lot. Its mellow in the middle, but in a good way. And they do a great Naked Eye. And I love Mike Post Theme. Great song...

John, were you at this show?

[url]http://www.longliverock.org/downloads/torrents-details.php?id=280[/url]

no. i went to a 2004 make up gig. after the show you linked and i think a couple of others (if any) they took some time off. i saw them in Irvine when they returned and then in 2004 at the Bowl. i think that was a small tour to do some things they had to cancel in 2002. obligations and what not...

Endless Wire full high quality stream:

[url]http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds?defaultTab=5[/url]

my review:

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=9683&page=1#lastpost[/url]

i would suggest reading the review first, as it may help you get ready for the album. don't wait. listen to the stream. its decent quality. surprisingly good for a stream. i say don't wait because as Who fans to have high expectations of this record as i didd will leave you disappointed a little. like i said, maybe start with my review. happy listening...

Argh!!..... must....resist.....temptation......must....wait...

screw that i'm listening to it right now

:badass:

Yeah I'm gonna listen to it now so I can review it for my school newspaper. I don't have time to wait. Well I'll wait until tomorrow because I'm insanely tired.

For those who don't visit the review site, here is a news item I wrote and posted this morning:

[b]Townshend Walks Out On Stern

Before it even started it was over. Promoting their new internet radio endeavor with a free two day preview, SIRIUS Satellite Radio this morning brought two of their major players together in Pete Townshend and Howard Stern, both of whom have exclusive stations on the channel, Stern with his daily morning show and special programming and Townshend with The Who Channel .

Arriving with surprise guest Roger Daltrey and girlfriend Rachel Fuller in tow Townshend walked out of the studio while still in the green room when Stern side kick Robin Quivers mentioned Townshend's 2002 arrest on child pornogaphy charges and went on to say he had "downloaded loads of it"and "gotten away with it", when in actuality Townshend was cleared on all charges excepting the "viewing of illegal child pornography" charge, which got him five years probation as a registered sex offender.

Fourteen of Mr. Townsehnd's computers were confiscated for the invistagation. No evidence of child pornography was found. Townshend accessed a child porn site in 1999 with his credit card while doing research for a paper he was writing on the easy availability of pornography and child pornography on the internet and its potentially damaging effects on society and the individual.

Howard Stern called the incident this morning "unfortunate" and personally apologized to Townshend on behalf of his crew. Robin Quivers also apologized saying she did not know the subject was "off limits" and was only going "by her notes." Roger Daltrey stuck around for the next hour and said Pete was completely justified in walking out and the subject could not be discussed regardless, as Townshend's probatation is still in effect. At the end of the interview Howard called himself and his staff "a bunch of stupid F*** ups", while Pete posted a blog at his website with the simple message of "Howard: Let's have lunch."[/b]

:(

Here are the reasons why I was let down by the new album not including Mike Post Theme, God Spoke of Marty Robbins (In the Attic version), 2000 Years (In the Attic version).

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=37J91o-GyvM[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YSAnHDLvkes[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=N03mUxdzOAs[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=5aadBKgetqA[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=U4xl2RtNqOQ[/url]


Pete wasn't unfortunately able to reach this kind of excellence in songwriting with this particular record. Hopefully he will give it another shot with better result. And shoud start with getting a "outside" producer :)

Stern's job is to make people feel like ****. I've always thought he was kind of an immature douche. Good on Pete for walking out on him.

I hate Howard Stern. How that man has gotten where he is, is beyond me.

Alright. Watching that July 1st, 2002 Hollywood Bowl show right now. It's a mix of both pro-shot footage, and some guy who can't hold a video camera. Looks like a solid show though.

Okay, this is something that has always bothered me. Whenever they did one of John's songs live, it seems like Roger is always singing along with him. Not even singing a harmony, but singing the same notes. Gettings two singers to sing the same melody is way damn hard (harmonies are much easier, and sound much better) and occasionally they're out of tune with each other ever so slightly.

Despite that fact, though, whose decision was it so that Roger always sang? You can throw the argument that Roger didn't play an instrument so he might get bored when its not his song, but he never sings to Pete's songs.

[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²;13514179]Alright. Watching that July 1st, 2002 Hollywood Bowl show right now. It's a mix of both pro-shot footage, and some guy who can't hold a video camera. Looks like a solid show though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that had to be a tough one. The Ox wasn't even in his grave yet, I don't think. They had to play the gig. They were ready. They just grabbed Pino and hoped for the best. Let us know how it turned out.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;13514199]Okay, this is something that has always bothered me. Whenever they did one of John's songs live, it seems like Roger is always singing along with him. Not even singing a harmony, but singing the same notes. Gettings two singers to sing the same melody is way damn hard (harmonies are much easier, and sound much better) and occasionally they're out of tune with each other ever so slightly.

Despite that fact, though, whose decision was it so that Roger always sang? You can throw the argument that Roger didn't play an instrument so he might get bored when its not his song, but he never sings to Pete's songs.[/QUOTE]


Well he's the singer :p

And I don't here that on many of John's live tunes. He pretty much handles them alone. Toward the end his voice was shot so roger pretty much picked things up for him, but other then that on tracks like My Wife, The Quiet One, Dangerous, Twist And Shout, I hear a lot of John.

Oh, and if any of you wondered why Roger seems mellower onstage these days, seems lost, and has trouble swinging that mic (its funny when he does the "baby twirl"these days) yesterday he said he had shoulder surgery recently and its just not happening. And the "allergic to pot" thing he says he's always enjoyed weed when he has smoked it but is allergic now. Last he smoked was three years ago and said it put him "flat on his back". Back in the day he said you would smoke a joint and "start to get high". He says the new one hit stuff is "dangerous". Gramps...:mad:

Images of Endless Wire:

[url]http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/4058/endlesswirecoveryb6.jpg[/url]

[url]http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9528/endlesswirebackcoverqf8.jpg[/url]

It was 4 days after he died. There is a memorial for him during the show, but I haven't gotten there yet. At the very beginning of the show, Pete and Roger gave eachother big hugs which was nice to see.

Also: I can't wait for Endless Wire. I have to cut down on my CD purchases though, and get a job. =(

Pete seems to be in high spirits for this show though, and even did a little comedy bit, and asked if he was in a testicle factory (refering to the balls on the roof of the bowl), and why people were smoking camomile, and why he had not had these reactions to camomile tea before. :p

a job :eek:

life will never be the same, jeff. try to not get banned your first day, k. :p

yeah when i went they had a video tribute during the encore. it was good. fairly minor though, tbh. i've been watching the Swiss show from the Townshend site when i get a chance. i need a DVD burner. gonna pick one up soon. and my Live In Boston DVD has come up missing. i have the case but can't find the disc, wtf? i can't imagine where it must of went :(

i had something more to say, but now i've forgotten...

:( I know how you feel.

Hope you find your disc.

Also, make sure you see my edit to that post.

As I type this, I'm downloading 4 more shows to go with my other 2 :):(

It's raping my bandwidth.