I disagree saying a ride is the most important cymbal. I would have to say hi-hats.
Not true, it depends what you like.

i' ment it is more important than another crash in my set

I found this on the internet: zildjian zbt rock pack(16crash,20ride14hat) + (dunno how to say it in english, the things that hold cymbals (hardware?))well 2 of those for 274 euro that is more or less 410£ or 280$

[QUOTE=3_times_round]I disagree saying a ride is the most important cymbal. I would have to say hi-hats.
Not true, it depends what you like.[/QUOTE]

i could live with Solar Hats, but i could certainly never ever live with a Solar ride

you can make cheap hats do, but a cheap ride always sounds cheap

[QUOTE=Nightmar3]I found this on the internet: zildjian zbt rock pack(16crash,20ride14hat) + (dunno how to say it in english, the things that hold cymbals (hardware?))well 2 of those for 274 euro that is more or less 410£ or 280$[/QUOTE]

do you mean stands to put the cymbals on?

and 274 euros = 186 pounds

thats is a fairly good deal with stands included go for it:thumb:

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]i could live with Solar Hats, but i could certainly never ever live with a Solar ride

you can make cheap hats do, but a cheap ride always sounds cheap[/QUOTE]

but i would want to buy decent hats so they last as they are (probably) the most used piece in your kit

I could not live without my AC Mastersounds now. I would hate to use crap hi-hats again. Solars just clunk, have no defined chick and almost no sizzle at all. Hi-hats can be used to keep time which is essential in the early days of drumming. It's your own opinion of course, I disagree with it though. :p

[QUOTE=logical harm]do you mean stands to put the cymbals on?

and 274 euros = 186 pounds

thats is a fairly good deal with stands included go for it:thumb:[/QUOTE]

yea thats right 1£ is 1.5€ I did it the wrong way round,yeah stands, thats the name and how do you call the straight ones and how do you call the "flexible" ones (flexible isn' t the right word)

[QUOTE=3_times_round]I could not live without my AC Mastersounds now. I would hate to use crap hi-hats again. Solars just clunk, have no defined chick and almost no sizzle at all. [b][u]Hi-hats can be used to keep time [/u][/b]which is essential in the early days of drumming. It's your own opinion of course, I disagree with it though. :p[/QUOTE]


and your ride cant keep time?

[QUOTE=Nightmar3]yea thats right 1£ is 1.5€ I did it the wrong way round,yeah stands, thats the name and how do you call the straight ones and how do you call the "flexible" ones (flexible isn' t the right word)[/QUOTE]

boom stand>?

Im looking for a nice pingy ride with little-to medium wash in the aa or aax lines. Also a peart sounding ride in the aa or aax line. Thanks..

AAX Dry Ride.

Are all rides of the same size in the aa and aax lines the same price?

Doubtful. The seller sets the prices.

The dry ride is a bit to dry. Any other suggestions?

try they AA dry ride, the bell is a tid bit bigger, and wouldnt be as dry because of it.

failing that, try and hunt out an AA Tight ride

[QUOTE]Are all rides of the same size in the aa and aax lines the same price?[/QUOTE]
yes. they should be

Im thinking about the AA Rock Ride, AA/X Dry Ride and maybe and aa medium heavy ride.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]and your ride cant keep time?[/QUOTE]

I was meaning using your foot, and working with any other cymbal. Of course all cymbals can keep time.

right, i'm pretty set on getting wuhan hats and 16" crash, but should i get "s" series or "rock" to play a variety of indie to hardcore music, i know the "rock" name might give it away but i just wanted to get it right

thanks in advance

definatly the rock, Wuhans are a little thin in their weights, so given your genres, Rock is for you

thanks man, the rock crash is cheaper anyways :)

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]try they AA dry ride, the bell is a tid bit bigger, and wouldnt be as dry because of it.

failing that, try and hunt out an AA Tight ride[/QUOTE]

Man, that's a blast from the past. I didn't even know they made AA Tight rides anymore.

i want a fairly heavy ride, that is very trashy, but with defined sticking, but with a continuous sound when played. but i dont want it to be overpowering. :) have fun

i was -thinking- custom K maybe? i dont really know lol

A "trashy" ride? That's a tall order. Try a K Custom 20" ride (the generic model of the series).

Is there such thing as a "trashy" ride? Maybe try small copper plates around the edges? You could always look for a Sabian O-Zone ride (if they exist).

Aren't all Wuhans a little "trashy" sounding?


I kind of want a china. Have any of you played the Sabian Signature devastation chinese?

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Is there such thing as a "trashy" ride? Maybe try small copper plates around the edges? You could always look for a Sabian O-Zone ride (if they exist).[/QUOTE]

Nononononono. There is no "O-Zone ride" and "small copper plates around the edges" would be stupid.

I'm looking for Hi hats with a nice chick while closed and a nice sizzle while opened...a ride with good stick definition, not a total ping, with just a slight about of "washyness" (doesn't need to crash)...and finally a crash with a relatively short decay and darker sound. Thanks...

Not sure about the hats, but I can recommend an AA Medium Ride (20") and a K Custom Fast crash (14-18").