[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Oh no, \m/ was directed at Cacophony.

"Good song" was aimed at "NP Sinergy- The Bitch Is Black"

I like those riffs even though they're really basic. And you wrote the bitch is black, lolcano.[/QUOTE]
haha. I'll correct my typo.

I always type that one wrong.

It's a catchy tune.

NP A Spit On Yerr Grave

Ooo that one's even better, sounds to me like it could be on Hatebreeder.

[QUOTE=ICB]I usually shoot for 5-8 hours a day, no matter what, whether it's straight through or in intervals. I don't have a normal routine, just work on my speed, accuracy, finger strength, different positions of scales/chord progressions, etc. Usually, I work more on writing than actual practicing, but yeah...sometimes I will sit down and work on odd time signatures, sweep-taps, etc. I really want to start working on multi-finger tapping.[/QUOTE]
AHh wow. That's alot.

The problem I have when writing is,

I can write riffs, leads, runs and shiit. But I can never figure out how to bridge them together, even if in key.

They sound nice as a song, but that little riff to bridge parts. Besides playing with it, any tips?

[QUOTE]I can write riffs, leads, runs and shiit. But I can never figure out how to bridge them together, even if in key.

They sound nice as a song, but that little riff to bridge parts. Besides playing with it, any tips?[/QUOTE]

I dunno, I just usually think of fills and interludes. Like in "Cover My Eyes" I wrote that little thrashy riff after the first chorus as fill-in so the song would have a little more substance as opposed to just repeating throughout...which it does anyway :p

(this is the riff im talkin about by the way)

|--------------------|---------------
|--------------------|--------------
|--------------------|--------------
|--------------------|--------------
|-2h3h2----2h3h2----|------3-----5
|-------0-0------0-0-|-0-1----1-3--

|--------------------|---------------
|--------------------|--------------
|--------------------|--------------
|--------------------|--------------
|-2h3h2----2h3h2----|------3-----2
|-------0-0------0-0-|-0-1----0-0--

Simple yet effective :p

I'll go jam for a few. I'll come back with my progress. ^)^


edit: @ the tab, ahh. Do you write and just remember everything, or do you tab things out?

Usually I write and remember things but for the stuff I've been writing for B.I.A I've been recording on a Pandora 4-track and tabbing it out on Power Tab, because there is a LOT more going on.

[QUOTE=ICB]Usually I write and remember things but for the stuff I've been writing for B.I.A I've been recording on a Pandora 4-track and tabbing it out on Power Tab, because there is a LOT more going on.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://sabotmul.s10.xrea.com/members/equipments/img/hata-PX4.jpg[/url]

??

Yeah that's the one.

Cool. I use The normal non-recordable PX4. I make use of the in built metronome but the rhythm tones suck.

Nice.

I make good use of the metronome on Power Tab, :lol: I'm so poor and ghetto.

Do you create an empty bar, stick repeat signs at either end and hit play?

Yup. It's pretty basic, and works.

I've got cowbell for my click track :p

Sweet, I bet it beats [url]http://www.metronomeonline.com/[/url]

I have the PX4 actually so I might just use that and try not to fall asleep, which is blatently going to happen.

In fact, I'm going to lay down.

[QUOTE=ICB]Yup. It's pretty basic, and works.

I've got cowbell for my click track :p[/QUOTE]
hhwellllll howdy there cowboy

So I found a tight fill riff that I expand into a chorus I'm working on, but god... I'm so sloppy.

haha. I've gotta cut the number of pinch harmonics in that tune. It's seriously like 1/3 notes in part of the verse. :rolleyes:

NP Passage To The Forth World

Sup Kalmah, by the way what's your name sir?


NP Amon Amarth- Where Death Seems To Dwell

[QUOTE=Kalmah]Benjamin J

NP - Amon Amarth - Cry of The Black Birds

not the worst on the album ;)[/QUOTE]
I actually change my vote on that tune.

It's one of the best, as is "under the northern sky".

Best album of the year

[QUOTE=Kalmah]That's saying something mng, to be honest I've only listened to it twice, so can't judge it too much [I]yet[/I]
Synchestra does it for me, Devin T[/QUOTE]
Nice to internet meet you Mr. Benjamin.

:thumb:

Ehh. That album didn't work for me, at all. The New Black was great though.

haha I will, no doubt.

Alien was one of the best.

My 05 bests,

Nile AoTW
A7X CoE
I think Sideshow symphonies from Arcturus was 05

Yeah, Sideshow Symphonies was 05.

My fav from 05 would either be [I]Atavism[/I] or [I]Forevermore[/I].

Then I vote Sideshow Symphonies for my favorite of 05.

I'm hoping Alexi gets with it and doesn't go chugga chugga lug lug on the next album. lol

[QUOTE=hollowpainting]Then I vote Sideshow Symphonies for my favorite of 05.

I'm hoping Alexi gets with it and doesn't go chugga chugga lug lug on the next album. lol[/QUOTE]

I think he will tbh.

Plus, we have another full year to wait yet.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I think he will tbh.

Plus, we have another full year to wait yet.[/QUOTE]
We have a full year to mentally prepare for Alexi's self destruction of our favorite band. :mad:

OMG DON'T SAY IT!!!

*cries like a lil' bitch*

I'm gonna steal Alexi's guitar and his hair and make my own band, the Toddlers of Bodom.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]OMG DON'T SAY IT!!!

*cries like a lil' bitch*

I'm gonna steal Alexi's guitar and his hair and make my own band, the Toddlers of Bodom.[/QUOTE]
hHAHAHAH nice funny :)

It's logical though. Look at the EP with TL&S, then AYDY.

Hey, but he's no stranger to chugging though. ^)^

You have hair close to Alexi's. I have hair close to my scalp.

Yeah, they've been getting heavier throughout their entire carrer, this is just the next step.

MAYBEEEE, they'll keep the C, and drop the other 5 strings a tone and go for the Arch Enemy tuning of C standard, that'd suprise everyone and be awesome at the same time.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Yeah, they've been getting heavier throughout their entire carrer, this is just the next step.

MAYBEEEE, they'll keep the C, and drop the other 5 strings a tone and go for the Arch Enemy tuning of C standard, that'd suprise everyone and be awesome at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Not if they used it badly.

They could do that, pull a Behemoth and write songs like,

"Conquer Beer" "Sculpting The Throne Ov Teh Reaper" and such.

I don't see how it could be used badly, it's the same *type* tuning, just a step lower so he'd still play the same type of riffs. Everyone can agree that you tend to play different style riffs if a guitar is in "drop" something, if it's standard, you end up with something less chuggy.

Compare Needled 24/7 & Sixpounder. And then Bodom Beach Terror and Angels Don't Kill. Same band, same album, 4 different songs, the 2 in drop C being the chuggiest. I think if they were to even go back to C# standard, that'd be good enough, drop tunings are too limited unless you're very creative. I actually think the main riff to Living Dead Beat is very creative and challenging.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I don't see how it could be used badly, it's the same *type* tuning, just a step lower so he'd still play the same type of riffs. Everyone can agree that you tend to play different style riffs if a guitar is in "drop" something, if it's standard, you end up with something less chuggy.
[/quote]
True. I actually like my riffing in CGCFAD best, over DGCFAD. It really forces me to break apart stuff, instead of trem picking @ a billion bpm. I need to cut down on the pinch harmonics. I actually played an entire verse where every note was one for fun. LOL. It was interesting, that's for sure.

[quote]
Compare Needled 24/7 & Sixpounder. And then Bodom Beach Terror and Angels Don't Kill. Same band, same album, 4 different songs, the 2 in drop C being the chuggiest. I think if they were to even go back to C# standard, that'd be good enough, drop tunings are too limited unless you're very creative. I actually think the main riff to Living Dead Beat is very creative and challenging.[/QUOTE]
Yepp. Sixpounder is very chugga chugga luggish

Yeah, but he'd lose his melody in C#. I just think we've seen the last of good bodom. I doubt Janne's going to have anything more than a backing role in the next album.

[QUOTE=Kalmah]Bastards of Bodom is a great song, it's not that bad of an album, just a little different...[/QUOTE]
Truth, but it's no FTR.

^_^ FTR is

Night guys

[QUOTE=hollowpainting]True. I actually like my riffing in CGCFAD best, over DGCFAD. It really forces me to break apart stuff, instead of trem picking @ a billion bpm. I need to cut down on the pinch harmonics. I actually played an entire verse where every note was one for fun. LOL. It was interesting, that's for sure.


Yepp. Sixpounder is very chugga chugga luggish

Yeah, but he'd lose his melody in C#. I just think we've seen the last of good bodom. I doubt Janne's going to have anything more than a backing role in the next album.[/QUOTE]

I can agree that melodic ideas sound weaker in lower tunings but Something Wild anyone? Lake Bodom is the shiit.

I actually wrote a Meshuggah type riff in 7/4 and recorded it in Bb, then recorded it up in D and it sounded soo much better and clearer but D down to C# should make too much difference. I mean you can't really tell when Bodom play Something Wild material in D (live 2005 etc).

can you upload the meshuggah riff?

maybe bodom won't play the chugga chugga style next time, but they will keep the song structure for sure. Alexi once told in an interview that he doesn't like the song structures of their older albums.




'sup?

Ok here's the recording, but the guitars don't seem loud enough, or clear. I think I only did 2 tracks so that might be why but you get the idea if you follow the kick drum.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Yer-bitches[/url]

its nice... but can you explain (yeah, once again, as always :) ) the theory behind it? 7/4? what does this mean in musical term? i only know/understand 1/4 ,2/4,3/4, 4/4 etc. but all those 7/4, 9/8, etc i don't understand....

[QUOTE=repcak]its nice... but can you explain (yeah, once again, as always :) ) the theory behind it? 7/4? what does this mean in musical term? i only know/understand 1/4 ,2/4,3/4, 4/4 etc. but all those 7/4, 9/8, etc i don't understand....[/QUOTE]

Tbh, you can't really udnerstand 4/4 and 3/4 if you can't understand 7/4.

The *only* difference is the first number in the fraction.

If you knew what the first digit meant, it'd be clear as to what the 7 means.

In 4, you count: 1..2..3..4..1..2..3..4.

In 7, you count: 1..2..3..4..5..6..7..1..2..3..4..5..6..7.

Ohh so simple. :)

ah, ok, easy... but there are more complex time signatures... i only know that there is a 9/11 (?) in Inferno... i think you count:

1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3,

9/11 is impossible.

I've always believed there's no such thing as a "complex time signature".

It's how you phrase the notes IN the time signature that makes riffs sound weird. I could write a bar of 9/8 that sounded simple, and a bar of 9/8 that sounded stupidly complex.

As I said, if you actually understand time signatures, you'll see that they're nothing but indications of bar lengths and usage of certain note types.

A good example = Meshuggah write in 4/4 alot. Why does it sound "complex"? Answer: clever syncopation and rhythm techniques.

inferno is in 7/8 but only some parts. 14 notes in one bar.

Yeah I know. That's kinda weird because of the way it's phrased. He could have chosen anyway to arrange those notes but he obviosly picked a difficult one.