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The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=I_am_the_demon_within]Wow i want to be mallcore too!
on a more serious not i ust want to say CoB is ****ing awsome[/QUOTE]
Yeah they are.

I made a new MSN,


"WatchAlexiWank" hell yeah!

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 10:46 PM

[QUOTE]5. How much was Dean dominating your sound?[/QUOTE]
Dean's been playing for 2 years, ok... first thing when I joined the band, he said "Don't write anything too hard for me to play".

He also recorded ALL of my rhythm parts on the 7-song EP...all wrong, as well.

"Cover My Eyes" is pretty much the only WAT song I've written completely, and I've even toned THAT song down because I don't want any bitching about "oh it's too hard", which is really stupid, yeah, but you have no idea how much Dean sucks and doesn't want to improve.

Buried In Ashes...just picture an old CoB-esque band with more progressive and more melodic leanings.

[QUOTE]I couldn't help but hear TEB at the same time[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's weird. I have never really listened to them, aside from the time WAT played a show with them and even then the sound was horrible.

[QUOTE]2. I was replying to ICB, so most likely Trevor, your charming self. [/QUOTE]

:-*

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Dean's been playing for 2 years, ok... first thing when I joined the band, he said "Don't write anything too hard for me to play".
[/quote]
Why'd you start a band with someone who's of such lackluster skill? I mean, if you and the rest of guys are so far above him. Isn't he kinda holding back what you're capable of?

[quote]
He also recorded ALL of my rhythm parts on the 7-song EP...all wrong, as well.
[/quote]
Why did he do your parts? btw. Define wrong?
[quote]
"Cover My Eyes" is pretty much the only WAT song I've written completely, and I've even toned THAT song down because I don't want any bitching about "oh it's too hard", which is really stupid, yeah, but you have no idea how much Dean sucks and doesn't want to improve.
[/quote]
I don't know which song I heard, it was the one on myspace. How hard is your stuff to play, or is it a combo of him sucking and it being more than basic?

[quote]
Buried In Ashes...just picture an old CoB-esque band with more progressive and more melodic leanings.
[/quote]
If you've got tunes and one, myspace linkage?

[quote]
Wow, that's weird. I have never really listened to them, aside from the time WAT played a show with them and even then the sound was horrible.
[/quote]
TEB has horrid live mixing. They played very well when I saw them, but their mixing was just a wall of sound.

I didn't mean in terms of riff rip offs or w/e. The sound just brought that too mind and sounded like something off a TEB record. That's how it struck me, that's all I can say. I like TEB, btw. NP actually.

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:03 PM

[QUOTE]Why'd you start a band with someone who's of such lackluster skill? I mean, if you and the rest of guys are so far above him. Isn't he kinda holding back what you're capable of? [/QUOTE]

I didn't start a band with him, I joined said band because for the time being, that band was the only band that didn't want to play breakdowns/wank chords 24/7 and I thought maybe I could help progress said lackluster skills. And yes, he was holding back what we were capable of. Immensely.

[QUOTE]Why did he do your parts? btw. Define wrong? [/QUOTE]

Because he's a douche.

and by wrong, I mean he played my parts that I wrote extremely wrong. I heard the recordings and I said "dude you're playign that wrong, if you're going to play my parts, at least play them RIGHT or I'll re-record them myself" (since I couldn't really bitch because it's Dean's band he wants to be Dave Mustaine blablabla)...and he said "OK, I'll re-record it". Well when it came down to that time, he just said "oh well we'll keep what we have".

Douchebaggery.

[QUOTE]I don't know which song I heard, it was the one on myspace. How hard is your stuff to play, or is it a combo of him sucking and it being more than basic? [/QUOTE]

That's the song. And the stuff I write...I wouldn't say it is hard because I'm used to playing, I've been playing just about 7 years so some things come natural to me when writing. But to an intermediate, it may provide a challenge, because I usually write more "complex" metal, not dumbed down 80's buttrock.

[QUOTE]If you've got tunes and one, myspace linkage? [/QUOTE]

I have some guitar tracks laid down on my friend's Pandora 4-track just so I can remember it and give it to the rest of the guys to look at and think over, but we haven't got anything recorded YET. Maybe in the next few months.

We do have a myspace right now though, which seems kinda pointless but oh well.

[url]www.myspace.com/buriedinashesmetal[/url]

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]I didn't start a band with him, I joined said band because for the time being, that band was the only band that didn't want to play breakdowns/wank chords 24/7 and I thought maybe I could help progress said lackluster skills. And yes, he was holding back what we were capable of. Immensely.
[/quote]
Ahh. I guess take some suffering for the end result.

[quote]
Because he's a douche.

and by wrong, I mean he played my parts that I wrote extremely wrong. I heard the recordings and I said "dude you're playign that wrong, if you're going to play my parts, at least play them RIGHT or I'll re-record them myself" (since I couldn't really bitch because it's Dean's band he wants to be Dave Mustaine blablabla)...and he said "OK, I'll re-record it". Well when it came down to that time, he just said "oh well we'll keep what we have".

Douchebaggery.
[/quote]
What the hell? I assume he had tabs or learned the parts? Could you post a tab bit of something he fukked up, if you've got any handy.
I mean, Dave did some catchy stuff, but he's not a guitar god. Far from it.

[quote]
That's the song. And the stuff I write...I wouldn't say it is hard because I'm used to playing, I've been playing just about 7 years so some things come natural to me when writing. But to an intermediate, it may provide a challenge, because I usually write more "complex" metal, not dumbed down 80's buttrock.
[/quote]
7 years? Wow. Aren't you like 18?

[quote]
I have some guitar tracks laid down on my friend's Pandora 4-track just so I can remember it and give it to the rest of the guys to look at and think over, but we haven't got anything recorded YET. Maybe in the next few months.

We do have a myspace right now though, which seems kinda pointless but oh well.

[url]www.myspace.com/buriedinashesmetal[/url][/QUOTE]
Ahh. I'll check it out here.

So Dean's outta a band and you guys are off doing your own thing...

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:13 PM

[QUOTE]Could you post a tab bit of something he fukked up, if you've got any handy. [/QUOTE]

Laziness ftw.

[QUOTE]7 years? Wow. Aren't you like 18? [/QUOTE]

19 next month.

[QUOTE]So Dean's outta a band and you guys are off doing your own thing...[/QUOTE]

Luke and I are. I don't know what Tim will do. We probably won't have him in the band since he hasn't shown to be very reliable lately and is impossible to reach. It's a shame cause he is such a damn good drummer.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:17 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Laziness ftw.
[/quote]
I'm very lazy, I won't argue there.

[quote]
19 next month.
[/quote]
Ahh.
[quote]
Luke and I are. I don't know what Tim will do. We probably won't have him in the band since he hasn't shown to be very reliable lately and is impossible to reach. It's a shame cause he is such a damn good drummer.[/QUOTE]
Ehh. That's how things go.

btw. What tuning do you play in(when you write) ?

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:19 PM

When I write, I tune to DGCFAD (low to high) because that's just such a heavy, chunky tuning for metal.

But WAT plays in standard E because again, Dean says so.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]When I write, I tune to DGCFAD (low to high) because that's just such a heavy, chunky tuning for metal.

But WAT plays in standard E because again, Dean says so.[/QUOTE]
hahhaahahahah! E is gay.

I'm almost always tuned to DGCFAd, as Bodom plays mostly in that as do most of the songs I play.

I'll admit, I love CGCFAD. Sometimes I'll go C# but I hate that tuning. That's a brutal tuning btw. (C#).

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:27 PM

E is very gay.

And any drop D-ish tuning bores me.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]E is very gay.

And any drop D-ish tuning bores me.[/QUOTE]
E is ultra gay!

What's wrong with Drop C? What makes it boring? I'd say it can limit your options, but at the same time, it'll have advantages over a standard tuning.

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:32 PM

I just get bored with writing in said tunings easily. I don't know, I guess Drop D/C/Z/X#flat whatever just represents ultra laziness to me. Which is ironic since im ultra lazy but you know what I mean.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]I just get bored with writing in said tunings easily. I don't know, I guess Drop D/C/Z/X#flat whatever just represents ultra laziness to me. Which is ironic since im ultra lazy but you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]


You can play,

C3
G3
D1

Or
C3
G3
C3

The latter sounds heavier, that's about it.

Shred Danson 09-03-2006 11:47 PM

Even though they're pretty much the same chord.

:p

The 57th Medical Failure 09-03-2006 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Even though they're pretty much the same chord.

:p[/QUOTE]
That was my exact point. The CGC barre chord sounds a bit heavier, that was all I'm saying.

MRDuCran 09-04-2006 07:11 AM

[QUOTE=ICB]
19 next month.
[/QUOTE]

AMG ME TOO!!! :chug:

Shadows 09-04-2006 09:20 AM

I don't care muc for drop tunings either, anymore. For some reason it just seems...cheap, in a way. I love a good metal tuning, but I'd much rather play in a variation of standard.

/is 18 in 6 months :upset:

Apocalyptic Raids 09-04-2006 09:24 AM

I was 18 about six months ago :o

I don't mind drop tunings, but it depends on the band. Slayer, for example, is best in Eb but Carcass sounds great in low tunings.

Toaster 09-04-2006 09:26 AM

I don't really care either way. I never think to myself, wow this band would sound way better with a lower/higher tuning. Unless they used to tune lower/higher, and sounded better.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-04-2006 09:32 AM

[QUOTE]I never think to myself, wow this band would sound way better with a lower/higher tuning. Unless they used to tune lower/higher, and sounded better.[/QUOTE]
I agree.

Slayer is a perfect example.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-04-2006 09:38 AM

Nah, it would just make their guitar sound thinner than it already is.

Toaster 09-04-2006 09:43 AM

I think they should go back to D standard rather than drop C though. They have a tendency to chug in drop C.

Shadows 09-04-2006 09:43 AM

Silence Jono, Children of Bodom's guitar is the opposite if thin. :mad:

*takes out handaxe*

@ Toaster: they're just as capable of chugging in D as they are in drop C. The tuning fits the sound they want. I don't think the tuning dictates what they play; more like the other way around.

repcak 09-04-2006 10:41 AM

wow... i'm online again :eek:

the whole network crashed on saturday... two hole days without the internet! but it still very slow... :(

MRDuCran 09-04-2006 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Toaster]I think they should go back to D standard rather than drop C though. They have a tendency to chug in drop C.[/QUOTE]

But then again, who doesn't?

Even when I pick up a guitar in "drop..." I just chug chug chug, and how many bads are there that do that in Drop C nowadays...

That's my reason for not liking drop tunings as much. I write alot of my songs in C# or D standard.

Toaster 09-04-2006 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Silence Jono, Children of Bodom's guitar is the opposite if thin. :mad:

*takes out handaxe*

@ Toaster: they're just as capable of chugging in D as they are in drop C. The tuning fits the sound they want. I don't think the tuning dictates what they play; more like the other way around.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you're right, but when they played in D they didn't chug. Which leads me to think that Alexi one day said "hey guyz lets do some chuggin in c", dropped his guitar down to C, and started writing chug-a-lug songs. :p

I liked their songs more in D.

Shadows 09-04-2006 05:26 PM

Somehow I doubt he said that. :p

The 57th Medical Failure 09-04-2006 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Somehow I doubt he said that. :p[/QUOTE]
I don't.

"eye dudes, we can drink more and play with less difficulty! "

Shred Danson 09-04-2006 06:58 PM

[QUOTE]AMG ME TOO!!![/QUOTE]

*giggles like a school girl*

Mine's October 21st. I'm getting shmammered that day. So, it'll just be like any other day.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-04-2006 07:10 PM

I turn 19 next aug. :(

Shattered_Future 09-04-2006 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=The 57th Medical Failure]I don't.

"eye dudes, we can drink more and play with less difficulty! "[/QUOTE]

So THAT'S why Nightwish stopped playing power metal...:p

The 57th Medical Failure 09-04-2006 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]So THAT'S why Nightwish stopped playing power metal...:p[/QUOTE]
hhahaa yeah Even though most of Nightwish is basic guitar wise, I like it.

Shattered_Future 09-04-2006 09:23 PM

Sometimes you just need the atmosphere. And when you've got that much stuff going on, simple is better.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-04-2006 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Sometimes you just need the atmosphere. And when you've got that much stuff going on, simple is better.[/QUOTE]
cough planet hell cough

Shattered_Future 09-04-2006 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=The 57th Medical Failure]cough planet hell cough[/QUOTE]

Or Ghost Love Score, although to be fair, that one is a bit harder due to the time signature...

Shred Danson 09-04-2006 09:27 PM

Oh my God.

Nightwish makes me question Dylan's sexuality.

There's some good stuff though. :p

MudvayneFreak666 09-04-2006 09:27 PM

I've never played GLS? Which are you saying is harder? night is gay

Shattered_Future 09-04-2006 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=MudvayneFreak666]I've never played GLS? Which are you saying is harder? night is gay[/QUOTE]

Well, it's often said that gay people have a seriously good sense of picking out other gay things.

The 57th Medical Failure 09-04-2006 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Oh my God.

Nightwish makes me question Dylan's sexuality.

There's some good stuff though. :p[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I'm totally lyk omg straight.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Or Ghost Love Score, although to be fair, that one is a bit harder due to the time signature...[/QUOTE]
Hmm. Planet Hell wasn't hard when I played it. Which is harder, in your opinion?

Shattered_Future 09-04-2006 09:31 PM

Now that I'm thinking about it, Planet Hell might be harder. Even though GLS has an odder time signature, the riffing in that is pretty straightforward, whilst in Planet Hell, there's a few interesting patterns.


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