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LordDargon 01-31-2005 12:21 PM

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]Yes, that is one thing we talked about. Also, how hardcore is now leaking into the mainstream ie. Killswitch Engage, Shadowsfall, etc.[/QUOTE]
Glad you recognize that Shadows Fall are not thrash.

superpeer 01-31-2005 12:22 PM

Please, don't call it hardcore, it's metalcore.

Hardcore is punk.

Cain 01-31-2005 12:24 PM

Genre discussions make me blah.

superpeer 01-31-2005 12:26 PM

So, all of a sudden I have a TV in my room. :eek:

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Jackson DKMG. Beautiful guitars.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. My personal preferance would be The Jackson over anything, but that's just. Playing them and deciding which one you like best is the best tactic I think.

One thing to be wary of is that the Jackson has a floating trem. Evil, evil things they are.

CaptainWaits 01-31-2005 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]So, all of a sudden I have a TV in my room. :eek:[/QUOTE]

sweet dude, did it just magically appear :lol:

lunch998 01-31-2005 12:30 PM

So, my mom goes to college....

-Obscurity- 01-31-2005 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Genre discussions make me blah.[/QUOTE]

Also genre descriptions tend to vary geographically. I saw Killswitch Engage on Fuse refer to themselves and the current Massachusetts scene as hardcore.

superpeer 01-31-2005 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]sweet dude, did it just magically appear :lol:[/QUOTE]

My mom was like : "Oh yeah, I brought you a TV"


:confused:

Arucard 01-31-2005 12:31 PM

Plus the Jackson comes with EMG's, and a floyd tremilo, making it the best value as well.

superpeer 01-31-2005 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]Also genre descriptions tend to vary geographically. I saw Killswitch Engage on Fuse refer to themselves and the current Massachusetts scene as hardcore.[/QUOTE]

Pfft, bands, they usually know the least about genres.

lunch998 01-31-2005 12:33 PM

Bands don't know anything about music. I think we know a little bit more than they do.

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:33 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Plus the Jackson comes with EMG's, and a floyd tremilo, making it the best value as well.[/QUOTE]

Seriously be warned, floating trems can be [I][B]the[/I][/B] most annoying things. Ever.

-Obscurity- 01-31-2005 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Bands don't know anything about music. I think we know a little bit more than they do.[/QUOTE]

Ha ha, we should show them how it's done. :D

Arucard 01-31-2005 12:37 PM

Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?

Cain 01-31-2005 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Seriously be warned, floating trems can be [I][B]the[/I][/B] most annoying things. Ever.[/QUOTE] It depends. My JS100 has one, but it's an innovative design that makes changing strings way less of a pain. It's just not intonated properly at the moment, and there's an extreme shortage of guitar techs around me in Connecticut, despite the presence of the Guitar Center nearby: once I find one, that guitar will be SO much fun to play. Blues licks are indeed problematic though. Unison bends are impossible.

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?[/QUOTE]

A floating trem has cavity in the body like [url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/atouchofgenius/DSCF0014.jpg]this[/url] so that you can manipultae the bar up and down. and fixed trem doesn't have the cavity so it can only be mainpulated one way.
A floating trems tuning, however, relies upon the tension of all the strings so it is a pain in the a[color=white]s[/color] to set up.

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]It depends. My JS100 has one, but it's an innovative design that makes changing strings way less of a pain. It's just not intonated properly at the moment, and there's an extreme shortage of guitar techs around me in Connecticut, despite the presence of the Guitar Center nearby: once I find one, that guitar will be SO much fun to play. Blues licks are indeed problematic though. Unison bends are impossible.[/QUOTE]

I love floyd roses, but setting them up is possibly the most painful experience on the planet.

Cain 01-31-2005 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?[/QUOTE]

Floating means you can pull up on the bar to raise the pitch of the notes in addition to lowering it. Floyd Rose setups, in addition, are almost universally reviled throughout the guitar community due to the near impossibility of changing strings and keeping the bar setup in tune. My floating trem is a much better design than the Floyd Rose. This is why Jacksons, who excusively liscense Floyd Rose bars, are worse in my mind than, say, Ibanez, who make their own floating locking tremolos. Floating trems are also very sensitive to pressure on the bar or the bridge, and the most annoying thing is a near-impossibility to play in-tune double-stop or unison-bend blues licks: since the bridge is so sensitively set up, the bridge depresses when you bend notes. If you're playing an unbent note at the same time, as in:

B--15------
G--14b16--

your D note on the B string will sound out of tune due to the bridge depressing. But it's a minor and, in-concert at least, barely noticeable problem. Locking bars are very versatile and great for tricks. The trick as the purchaser is finding a bar that won't leave you pulling your hair out.

Oh, and change strings one at a time with floating bars to keep the tension stable. Don't break strings in concert. That's all.

Arucard 01-31-2005 12:49 PM

Well ill have to look into that.

Six Foot Revolver 01-31-2005 12:52 PM

'Sup all!

Bartender 01-31-2005 12:56 PM

Hail.

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:57 PM

Guten Abend :)

NP: Vanessa May - Classial Gas

Permanent Solution 01-31-2005 12:58 PM

I like my Floyd Rose... :upset:

EDIT: NP: On My Own - Les Miserables

munky_magik 01-31-2005 12:59 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]I like my Floyd Rose... :upset:[/QUOTE]

Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :(

Permanent Solution 01-31-2005 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :([/QUOTE]
Meh, it's really easy for me...

LordDargon 01-31-2005 01:04 PM

So far only one person has commented on my status. I think most of the idiot n00bs don't understand it's significance. I know they'd all blow up if they knew what it was.

Crap, I want to take off my signature that shows on my profile, but vBulletin won't let me. vbulletins a fag lets burn his hou'se lolo

-Obscurity- 01-31-2005 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :([/QUOTE]

Yeah they are useful staying in tune and allow for dive bombs etc., but they make me dread changing strings or making adjustments.

Arucard 01-31-2005 01:19 PM

Why are they so hard to change strings on?

superpeer 01-31-2005 01:22 PM

/me understands why the changing of my strings has been so difficult :eek:


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