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MxShredder 12-15-2004 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Yea, I just read that Noel Redding was a guitar player before the Experience. He does a great job on Bass considering he just switched to it.[/QUOTE]

He was a guitarist, Hendrix auditioned him as a guitarist and then asked him to switch to bass.

/not positive either

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Now lets not get carried away. Mitch Mitchell was great, but technically speaking Bonham was much better.[/QUOTE]

Seafroggys is a drummer(I'm fairly sure), so therefore his opinion on this matter should be valued highly. I agree with you though.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 08:45 PM

I listened to Eric Clapton's [i]The Cream of Clapton[/i] at my local record shop. I really liked the songs, but the sound quality is very poor. Layla, in all its glory started the cd, but I really couldn't enjoy it.

This is one album that [b]definately[/b] needs to be remastered. Fast.

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=MxShredder]He was a guitarist, Hendrix auditioned him as a guitarist and then asked him to switch to bass.

/not positive either[/QUOTE]

Yea that sounds right, according to what I was reading.

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]I listened to Eric Clapton's [i]The Cream of Clapton[/i] at my local record shop. I really liked the songs, but the sound quality is very poor. Layla, in all its glory started the cd, but I really couldn't enjoy it.

This is one album that [b]definately[/b] needs to be remastered. Fast.[/QUOTE]

You could just go save yourself the trouble and buy Disraeli Gears.

Seafroggys 12-15-2004 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]I like them for different reasons.[/QUOTE]

Well yeah. Bonham is more straight rock and bluesy, whereas Mitchell was a little bit jazzier and funkier.

Bonham is great and all, but when people proclaim him to be the best rock drummer of all time, I just think to poor old Mitchy who's a backing man to a wonderful musician.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Pfft, everyone needs to forget about that Rolling Stone top 100 guitarists list. Jimi isn't the best but he's very good and is one of the greatest people at making music, ever. And that's all that matters.

Plus, live he's much better than recorded. That's not an easy thing to do.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I heard about that. In the '60's, the beatles were a fully studio band (except at the start, of course) and some bands were trying to re-create on stage what they did in the studio. But, the Jimi Hendrix Experience and The Who were trying to re-create in the studio what they did on stage!

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]You could just go save yourself the trouble and buy Disraeli Gears.[/QUOTE]

what is disreali gears? Is it an album or a compilation? Or is the name of the new flavour ice-cream you tried today?

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]Yeah I heard about that. In the '60's, the beatles were a fully studio band (except at the start, of course) and some bands were trying to re-create on stage what they did in the studio. But, the Jimi Hendrix Experience and The Who were trying to re-create in the studio what they did on stage![/QUOTE]

The Who didn't have as much success transfering their live show to the studio as Jimi did, which is unfortunate.

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]what is disreali gears? Is it an album or a compilation? Or is the name of the new flavour ice-cream you tried today?[/QUOTE]

It's Cream's second album, released in 1967. Psychadelic to the extreme, and Clapton has some amazing parts on that album.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]The Who didn't have as much success transfering their live show to the studio as Jimi did, which is unfortunate.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - I saw the woodstock DVD and The Who were awesome. [i]See Me, Feel Me[/i] really was fantastic live.

Seafroggys 12-15-2004 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Seafroggys is a drummer(I'm fairly sure), so therefore his opinion on this matter should be valued highly. I agree with you though.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Playing 5 years :thumb:

Anyway, I can probably safely say that Baker and Mitchell were the best out of the 60s, and Bonham and Moon were the best out of the 70s (I haven't really listened to much Who of the 60s, so my insight is very much inaccurate).

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]It's Cream's second album, released in 1967. Psychadelic to the extreme, and Clapton has some amazing parts on that album.[/QUOTE]

Great! I really like the way the bass player on the Cream songs was really laying down a good groove for Clapton to do his thing.

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Yep. Playing 5 years :thumb:

Anyway, I can probably safely say that Baker and Mitchell were the best out of the 60s, and Bonham and Moon were the best out of the 70s (I haven't really listened to much Who of the 60s, so my insight is very much inaccurate).[/QUOTE]

I think Baker is overlooked. He was doing blast-beats in 1967, before metal was a genre. But anyways, Moon was actually a notorious drummer from the start with The Who, he has some pretty crazy stuff early on. However by 1969, The Who really became an amazing show and a hard rock powerhouse, so that's basically when people say Moon was at his best.

lunch998 12-15-2004 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]Great! I really like the way the bass player on the Cream songs was really laying down a good groove for Clapton to do his thing.[/QUOTE]

Jack Bruce is an amazing bassist. Up there with Entwhistle on my list.

Actually, I think it would be a better idea for you to get the Very Best of Cream first, then you can decide what your favorite album by them is. Everyone seems to favor a different one, so the best of is a good idea. I find that Clapton is almost at his peak in his playing with Cream.

Seafroggys 12-15-2004 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]Great! I really like the way the bass player on the Cream songs was really laying down a good groove for Clapton to do his thing.[/QUOTE]

Jack Bruce. Yeah he's a great bass player. At first I thought that Cream's singer was Eric Clapton, I think their voices are similar. And Ginger Baker was doing freakishly awesome double bass grooves when all of today's metal drummers were in diapers or even before they were little spermies. I wish those two actually managed to do something passed Cream (well, Baker was in Blind Faith), because they were some of the, if not the most talented musicians of the day at their instrument.

thickasabrick 12-15-2004 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Yep. Playing 5 years :thumb:

Anyway, I can probably safely say that Baker and Mitchell were the best out of the 60s, and Bonham and Moon were the best out of the 70s (I haven't really listened to much Who of the 60s, so my insight is very much inaccurate).[/QUOTE]

i'd have to agree with you there. although you can't forget Neil Peart, he was pretty talented. i dunno what decade you'd wanna stick him in though cuz Rush spanned over a few decades.

i like Baker because his drumming wasn't always as conventional as other drummers. it's as if he wanted to play the melody, and not keep the beat.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 09:07 PM

What are everyone's favourite Beatles albums and why?

lunch998 12-15-2004 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Jack Bruce. Yeah he's a great bass player. At first I thought that Cream's singer was Eric Clapton, I think their voices are similar. And Ginger Baker was doing freakishly awesome double bass grooves when all of today's metal drummers were in diapers or even before they were little spermies. I wish those two actually managed to do something passed Cream (well, Baker was in Blind Faith), because they were some of the, if not the most talented musicians of the day at their instrument.[/QUOTE]

Check out Clapton and Bruce alternate singing in Sunshine of Your Love. If you listen really closely you can hear them change every two lines during the verse I believe.

Against Miik! 12-15-2004 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Check out Clapton and Bruce alternate singing in Sunshine of Your Love. If you listen really closely you can hear them change every two lines during the verse I believe.[/QUOTE]

Really? They must have incredibly similar voices then, because I would never have noticed.

thickasabrick 12-15-2004 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]What are everyone's favourite Beatles albums and why?[/QUOTE]

i'm afraid i haven't heard them all. But i have Help, Sgt Peppers, Let it Be and Abbey Road, out of those i really like Sgt Peppers as an album, but Let it Be has great songs on it.

and who sings on The White Room? there's like the normal singer, and then someone sings a lot higher (falsetto possibly). who are the singers? or is it just one person singing both?

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Yep. Playing 5 years :thumb:

Anyway, I can probably safely say that Baker and Mitchell were the best out of the 60s, and Bonham and Moon were the best out of the 70s (I haven't really listened to much Who of the 60s, so my insight is very much inaccurate).[/QUOTE]

If you haven't heard the 60's Who, then you should definately listen to [i]My Generation[/i] (US title: The Who sings My Generation) and [i]Tommy[/i]. Both fantastic albums.

Seafroggys 12-15-2004 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]What are everyone's favourite Beatles albums and why?[/QUOTE]

Abbey Road. Why? Because it kicks ***. And it has the best sounding drums of all time.

Also, about the Eric/Jack alternating vocals. Yeah, as I said earlier, they have similar sounding vocals. Also, when Jack toured with the Ringo All Starrs in '97, when they did Sunshine of Your Love (I have this on DVD btw) he alternated with Peter Frampton during that same part. So that does make sense.

Against Miik! 12-15-2004 09:14 PM

[QUOTE=Perverted Pixie Nudist Colony]What are everyone's favourite Beatles albums and why?[/QUOTE]

Help!, White Album, and Abbey Road simply because of the songs. Not so say I don't like songs on other Beatles albums, but it just seems most of my favorites comes from these 3.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 09:14 PM

Abbey Road is another album I have listened to at my local record shop. That just has good song after good song. The second half's medley is brilliant. The Beatles have really good vocal melodies.

Illmatic 12-15-2004 09:15 PM

I'd have to go with The White Album...it's the most varied Beatles album. And the songs are great, too (duh).

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 09:17 PM

I heard the White Album is like four solo aritsts on the same album - John with a backing band, Paul with a backing band, George with a backing band and Ringo with a backing band.

magicbus 12-15-2004 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Mainly Roots Rock but they have many different styles.

They played as Bob Dylans back up band.

I have a bootleg of-Neil Young, The Band and Bob Dylan:eek:

They play Helpless and Knockn' on Heavens Door.:cool:[/QUOTE]

Helpless on The Last Waltz is one of my favorite songs on there. They play some bluesy stuff too, but they're mostly folk/roots rock. Like he said.

BludgeonySteve 12-15-2004 09:20 PM

My favorite albums by The Beatles are Sgt Peppers (because of awesome creativity) and Abbey Road (because I think it has the best songs on it out of any other Beatles albums).

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]My favorite albums by The Beatles are Sgt Peppers (because of awesome creativity) and Abbey Road (because I think it has the best songs on it out of any other Beatles albums).[/QUOTE]

Good choices! :thumb:

What does everyone think of [i]Magical Mystery Tour[/i]?


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