[QUOTE=Drunken Viking;13437739]Sh[size=2]it[/size], I really wanted to see The Who but tixs are like 100$, I'm debating if it's worth it.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to spend too much to see The Who. I got a $57 ticket. After service charge and tax it was $74. My seat is right here, where its circled in black with a red dot:

[url]http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4654/ppuo2.jpg[/url]

Not bad. And its an aisle seat :)

The 52$ tix are sold out for the Colorado show, the least expensive ones are the 100 doller ones. :(

If its a slow sale or all aren't sold they have been lowering prices and giving special deals. So stay alert for those. At one concert they closed an entire section for lack of sales and the people who bought tickets for it got to go down front. Not to say the tour isn't doing well. Its doing very well. But some cities better then others and they have been making an attempt to get every ticket sold they can. One city had cheap seats going for $25 a cuople of days before the show. So like I said, keep your eyes and ears open...

Yeah I'll do that, because 100$ is ridiculous, I don't care who the band is.

100 is a lot, definitely worth it though.

The band decided not to take corporate sponsorship for the tour so that is one of the reasons for the higher tix prices. Also their promoter convinced them older fans would be able to afford the tickets, being they are people with jobs and what not. Meaning just older and established. Which unfortunately means some fans have to settle for cheaper seats. I think the prices are $202, $100, $77, and $57. Not bad, but not great. When I saw them in 2002 I paid $35 for about the same position I have now. In 2004 I paid $45.

This is the last go around so I think its ok. I know Pete is set, but Roger needs to make some money. As do the other musicians. And for those who care to everybody who buys a ticket is an automatic member in thewhotour.com. (credit/debit card required) Which is a real good site for fans like us. I just saw I Can't Explain and some interesting footage from Edmonton there. So thats a bonus. Plus The Who are giving much money to charity and funding various sales and auctions for charity with the tour money. So all in a days work with the somewhat high ticket prices, I would say...

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;13437811]twice. October 18, 2002 and November 5, 2005. Plus I saw Ringo on August 27, 2001.

But The Who seriously owned it. I planned on getting floor seats, but the moment the website went up they were already sold out. I had just got a job so $100 wasn't that big of an issue, I easily make that in two days (or did, until I got fired).

Anybody figure out how to link sub-albums in a photo bucket?[/QUOTE]

you are so gay

[QUOTE=JXD;13437865]If its a slow sale or all aren't sold they have been lowering prices and giving special deals. So stay alert for those. At one concert they closed an entire section for lack of sales and the people who bought tickets for it got to go down front. Not to say the tour isn't doing well. Its doing very well. But some cities better then others and they have been making an attempt to get every ticket sold they can. One city had cheap seats going for $25 a cuople of days before the show. So like I said, keep your eyes and ears open...[/QUOTE]

Yeah they closed off the 300 level in the Rose Garden. Still a packed crowd though.

Here is something Pete said in an interview a few weeks ago. I suppose the truth is kind of tragic and sad:

[b]Late THE WHO rocker JOHN ENTWISTLE died because he continued living "high" into middle age, according to his surviving bandmate PETE TOWNSHEND.

Townshend claims he and frontman ROGER DALTREY found it impossible to curb Entwistle's appetite for partying and drugs, because the bassist insisted he would prefer to die than give up his rock 'n' roll lifestyle.

Townshend says, "What happened with John was that he got used to living high, and his money supply was cut off."

"In the end, when Roger came to me and said, 'Listen, we've got to help John, let's try to train him to live less high,' we couldn't do that.

"And as we trained him to live less high, he died. He didn't want to live less high. He preferred to be dead, in a sense." Entwistle died in June 2002 from a heart attack after taking cocaine in Las Vegas, Nevada.[/b]

:(

Poor John:(

I've never paid more than the cheapest seats for a show. It's still great. Because when you factor in ticketmaster's gay charges, cost of a shirt, train tickets, it all adds up to a ton of money.

:(

why oh why

Here is a just released Pete interview with some magazine:


[b]

The Who have been credited with a number of rock'n'roll innovations, from aggressive proto-punk sounds and behavior to synthesizer usage and stadium-scope spectacle. Yet songwriter Pete Townshend's most lasting creation may be the combination of storytelling and music christened, with tongue firmly in cheek, the rock opera, a format that has recently experienced a second wave of popularity through albums by the Streets, the Fiery Furnaces, and R. Kelly. Now down to Townshend and singer Roger Daltrey, the Who's latest comeback record, Endless Wire, avoids the play-it-safe habits of the band's gray-templed peers by returning to musical narratives, the second half dominated by the "mini-opera" Wire & Glass. The proudly computer-literate Townshend (he made a point of mentioning that Pitchfork is on his MyGoogle newspaper) and I spoke over e-mail about rock operas past and present.

Pitchfork: What has drawn you back toward the idea of musical narratives at this juncture in your career?

Pete Townshend: I have never stopped doing it-- if I have appeared to stray from the story, the story has not changed. I write about the trauma, or the effect of it, visited on my generation since the last war, [which was] caused by the denial of older generations. The new story is, like the first mini-opera ("A Quick One"), Tommy, and Quadrophenia, set in a neighborhood where young people look for answers and their parents seem unable to help. So they look to art, to music, to spirituality, to congregation, and finally to the endless wire for solutions. What happened? Why won't they talk about it? Should we fight back at our enemies today or become supreme and pacifist liberals? Do we even matter? Does what we do or say make any difference?

Pitchfork: How does the Wire & Glass mini-opera connect back to previous Who or Pete Townshend rock operas?

PT: It is connected specifically to Lifehouse, because the three members of the band Glass in the opera want to revive Ray High's lost dream to join everyone together using music in a huge internet concert event. It is connected too to Psychoderelict, a solo album for me in 1993, because this d0cumented Ray High's descent and failure to realize his dream.

Pitchfork: Wire & Glass is intended to be a companion to your novella The Boy Who Heard Music; did you always intend this story to be presented in both written and musical formats?

PT: It started as a radio play that I hope to serialize on the internet using my live streaming system at my studio (now called TowserTV). I couldn't quite crack that, so I serialized it on a blog instead as a regular text piece. I think The Boy Who Heard Music has enough color and story to work as a small theatre piece with music, and parts of it are visionary and screwy enough to make a great Las Vegas Circus Ballet. But the songs are what is most important, and each one might make a cool animation film.

Pitchfork: Why did you decide to do this mini-opera as part of a Who album, rather than as a solo record? What does Daltrey's participation add to the project?

PT: I almost fancy making a solo record now I've done one for the Who, but if this hadn't worked for the Who I would not have released it is a solo record. Roger's input is that of editor and interpreter-- then once ideas are fashioned he's a very powerful part of the delivery engine we call the Who. No better way to get a good idea out to the world.

Pitchfork: The promotional materials describe Wire & Glass as being the music composed "so far" for your novella. Can we expect a more complete rock opera in the future? If so, why did you decide to release this "mini-opera" in an incomplete state?

PT: I went on to add another four songs to the album, and there are a few more I could add if there was any kind of second life for the story, but I am delighted to have the story come out this way. I wanted the incomplete mini-opera released so that the Who would at least have some music released before we started our European tour.

Pitchfork: Pardon me if I'm conflating you with your characters, but The Boy Who Heard Music features an aging rock star who appears to have advice to relate to a young band on the road to stardom. At one point in the promotional notes, you say, "He rues the fact that the rock industry seems unable to change." What message are you trying to convey to young musicians in the industry today?

PT: You are maybe drawing me toward my characters too much, but that is what happens. I always think John Updike must be a little sex mad. He probably isn't. Ray High has no advice to give, only caution. In fact he is not available to the band. He is watching them from the ether, he is meditating and can see the way they come together, and grow up, and become smashed by the business the way he did. It is in that respect that Ray believes the rock industry cannot change-- it cannot save its own. But in reality we are beginning to save our own. We have older survivors who can speak to younger ones about why it isn't necessary to die.

Pitchfork: Musical narratives have been making a comeback lately, from artists like the Fiery Furnaces, the Streets, R. Kelly, and Pedro the Lion. Have you heard any of these story-records, and if so, what do you think about what they've done with the format?

PT: I know about the Streets. Fantastic. I will check out the others immediately.

Pitchfork: Can you explain what the "Method" process is, and how it has evolved since the days of the original Lifehouse project?

PT: It is a realization of the Lifehouse Method in the original fiction. Today it is possible to do what in 1971 I could only dream about. I have a website prepared, you visit it, enter some data, and get tailor-made music back. Your music, and that of everyone who visits the site, will blend together. In the original story there was a VR thread as well, that has become less interesting to me now.

Pitchfork: What is it about the Lifehouse project that has brought you back to it multiple times in your career?

PT: Even though I say so myself it was a magnificent revelation of prescience. I predicted something of the future. However, the foundation for the idea was instilled in me at art school in 1961 by Roy Ascott and his Foundation Team. They first introduced me to words like cybernetics and semiotics when the only computers in the world were as big as aircraft carriers. Look for Henry Silverman in The Boy Who Heard Music. This character is loosely based on Harold Cohen, the inventor of the fine art painting robot called AARON. Harold was one of the teachers on Roy Ascott's course. These were quite brilliant, far-sighted men.

Pitchfork: You seem to be fascinated by the internet, and yet Wire & Glass contains a vision of the future "strangled by wire and communications." Are you pessimistic or optimistic about the spread of technology in modern society?

PT: I am not pessimistic or optimistic. We will make of this what we will. It is a tool not an end. We are the receivers, we need to divide time, and to live in the moment such division allows us. We cannot be pure in any other way living in the materialist west. That's why music is so vital to us I think.

Pitchfork: How do you feel that the internet has impacted the music industry? Has it changed your approach to making or distributing music?

PT: Only slightly. It has not delivered all of its promise. Yes, we can get our music to our audience, but as yet we have not persuaded them to pay the way they do when they come see us play live. Turning something into low resolution data does seem to make it worth less in the modern world. Some girl I know told me that all cars could be run on water, only the man who invented the process was "assassinated" by the petrochemical people. Water is more precious than oil. Both are more precious than music. Music won't heat a house or help a plant to grow.

Pitchfork: The story of Wire & Glass appears to contain a lot of religious imagery and themes. How have your feelings on religion changed since Tommy, when religion (of the organized sort, at least) was largely portrayed in a negative light?

PT: I respect those who follow religious routes only if they seem to me to be morally proper and in accord with the modern world. Religion seems to me like vapour on the ocean that is my idea of who and what God is. Not bad vapour, just not very substantial. [/b]

When I read Pete Townshend's interviews, I always wonder what it would be like to think as he does for a day. His mind has always struck me as very peculiar. It would be interesting to see what he thinks about.

By the way, I rep'ed you because you're always posting a greaet deal of articles, interviews, etc. that have been very informative. :thumb:

thank u thank u. :)

Yeah Pete is something. I reviewed the Qudrophenia Live DVD for sputnik a couple days ago and I was struck how he alternately makes things more complicated then they are and also makes complcated things simple. He really is quite an incredible artist. My music service just got all his solo stuff. And I do mean [i]all[/i] of it. Except the Lifehouse project series. But they got his collection of demos, the Scoop series. And his demos are amazing. Some sound nearly as good as The Who recordings. And others are experimental to some extent. Some are full band arrangements with full instumentation, Pete playing everything including drums. And he's good. Keyboards, bass, you name it. Long Live Rock sounds like Long Live Rock. You Better You Bet, as well. Really cool...

i repped u 2

:-*

I'm not very original.

/jumps on bandwagon

[QUOTE=fwqhgads;13473197]i repped u 2

:-*[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=robo2448;13473220]I'm not very original.

/jumps on bandwagon[/QUOTE]
Wow I am feeling the love. Rep party in The Who thread :)

haha

I'm gonna rep everyone with over 20 posts in this thread starting tonight. Thats quite a bit so i'll run out before i'm done. But we've all done our part to keep this thread going and its been a great thing for R&M I think.

Second leg of the tour starts in Los Angeles on the 4th and I'm going on the 5th. I hear at the fan site changes are being made to the setlist. Could be more new stuff played. And different new stuff, as the album comes out just five days before. I've read they may also dump some older stuff in favor of different older stuff. Which would be great. We'll see. Ought to be interesting.

Oh, looks like an SNL appearance as well as Jimmy Kimmel, etc...might be coming up. Those kinds of things. So keep a look out...

I try to rep a few select users whenever I can, but I don't give it out that much so I usually have to spread it around.

Oh yea I got a bigger avatar if you guys hadn't noticed me recently. More Who.

hah, I think this [I]is[/I] my 20th post.

The Who setlists changes a lot anyway. Whatever they play, it's still an awesome show.

oh and that's a nice new old avatar.

yeah Lunch that avatar pwns. if i ever win reviewer of the month again at sputnik i have a huge townshend one ready to go. its awesome. but only if they let me have my current one back. because i like it and they can be pissers about avatars at sputnik. :(

The only reason I'd want to be a mod is so I could have a huge ownage shot of some Who.

This logo/image is just so classic and perfect though.

Which is why I stole it as part of our sneaky little halloween switch thing. But then I realized that:
1. I look like an idiot with it as a smaller size
2. You've had that avatar the entire time I've been on the site and it seems just wrong for anyone else to have it.

[QUOTE=Lunch;13473406]The only reason I'd want to be a mod is so I could have a huge ownage shot of some Who.

This logo/image is just so classic and perfect though.[/QUOTE]
I have that poster on my living room wall. Nice frame, behind glass.

Here is the Townshend one i want:

[url]http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1133/petetownshend1uo9.jpg[/url]

I WILL make it happen. I'll even shrink it a little if need be. :smash:

Yea that would be good.

[url]http://www.genesis-publications.com/books/who/pete_jump1.jpg[/url]

^Better

I have that 2nd picture on a shirt.

[QUOTE=Lunch;13473505]Yea that would be good.

[url]http://www.genesis-publications.com/books/who/pete_jump1.jpg[/url]

^Better[/QUOTE]
:amaze:

man they would never let us have one of those. you'd have to be joshmay or something. that one has to be super large because of Townshends leg span, too. i've seen that shot smaller and pete looks too little.

don't they know we just want to honor The Who? anyone could understand that. :confused:

Check out my avatar for another forum I frequent.

[url]http://www.toolkitzone.com/forums/images/avatars/126370424452ddbe7880b5.gif[/url]

I made it myself too, from a pic I found on some website.

thats pretty awesome. i actually have a non photoshopped version of the same in my avatar folder. just in case i ever want to use it. this is mine at another forum i post at:

[url]http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3096/41326316petetownshendpa2032fl2.jpg[/url]

i like it pretty well. damn MX never lets us have any fun! :mad:


EDIT: said the guy with the big 3D avatar :rolleyes:

[url]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/avatar01.gif[/url]

There's another one from another forum. Direct DVD rip, too! :D

the mods hate me too much to give me a bigger avatar

but...but...you're a Supermod :confused:

Anway, only Super's can give them. And I'm sure some don't even know you. So keep trying on The Who's behalf. It won't help that you are a notorious e criminal, but in some quarters that may actually be a plus...

gotta love the ad, amirite:

[url]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9554/untitledbk6.jpg[/url]

and to give this post some meat you should know that Sirius is giving away free internet radio on the 24th and 25th which will include an apperance by PETE TOWNSHEND on the HOWARD STERN show. that ought to be wild. Pete has a good sense of humor, he is smart and qucik. Howard the same. Howards girl and Pete's girl are good friends somehow. thats how this all came about. should be good.

The Who station also play the previous nights gig in its entirety. the band is on break so no previous nights gig. but i'm sure they will have lots of good stuff from the tour, anyway...

[QUOTE=JXD;13478486]but...but...you're a Supermod :confused:

Anway, only Super's can give them. And I'm sure some don't even know you. So keep trying on The Who's behalf. It won't help that you are a notorious e criminal, but in some quarters that may actually be a plus...[/QUOTE]

well i think burt and i have sort of a love-hate relationship

ok I posted this at sputmik in the news comments section of a story someone posted. i thought it was worthy enough to report here, also:


I have heard samples from all songs on the album. Wire And Glass is included in its entirety. The record sounds great. Modern. The various internet low bandwidth streams do it no justice. Many of the songs are acoustic flavored. If you know The Who you know most of their records since Tommy were all different from one another yet ultimately still The Who. Expect no different from this album. Some of it sounds very familiar. Some of it striking in its simplicity and raw emotion. Lots of mid tempo stuff. There are experimental touches. Expect The Who, but also the unexpected. Meet the new boss, not quite the same as the old boss....

Sounds about right :)

When's it due out again?

The who is really good

Ahh..... The Who.

A young fellow, the Who is. He wanders about the forests of Teenage Wasteland ever so merrily. The days are always filled with bright hues and beautiful flowers. No, not one day with a cloud, no!

However, one fine evening the Who encountered a problem, "What am I going to wear to the annual Pumpkin Festival?!". He certainly not a clue! Soon enough, the grand old Pinball Wizard appeared in his doorway, with a gentle breeze and a stern look on his face. He spoke,

"Dear, dear Who, what are you to do?
You've got no clothes for the evening's ball
Will you ever go through?

Dear, dear who, how will we fix this soon?
A costume will be sewn with my magical magic
From the streets of Timbuktu"

And as you may expect, this made the Who [I]very [/I] joyous, and took the Pinball Wizard by the hand and did a merry dance around the room's table. After a quick tea and toast, the wizard had to make his way to a faroff city of Qurotjendur. At the foot of the door he conjured up the costume and set it in a box. This made the Who doubleplus merry!

He put the fresh outfit on, which was a bright sort of blue with many other colors and trims, realizing out loud that this bargain was, in fact, the best he ever had. Before the night's ceremonies, The Who made a point to show this recent acquired item to his favorite cat, Not Gandalf From Lord of the Rings, and equally pleasant cat who loved to purr and roll around. It was much amused by his outfit, slyly saying,

"Why, that outfit is fu[size=2]c[/size]king horrible. Did you steal it from a dead hooker?".

However odd this seemed, it did not prevent the Who from going to the night's Pumpkin Festival. He had much mead and bread, fruits and vegetables, and plenty of sweetening sweethings! Oh, how his tummy was plump and full. After stumbling home in a meading haze with some odd chunks of vomit, he finally realized..

"Didn't I read [I]The Lord of the Rings[/I] once?"

......okay. That was interesting.

I haven't listened to Bargain in a long time. Maybe I should put it on.

[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²;13484484]When's it due out again?[/QUOTE]
Oct. 30

I've listened to some samples again and I tihnk it sounds good. Advance word is good. Wire And Glass is included along with 3 songs in the middle that weren't included in the ealier release. Kind of disappointed that we won't get full versions of all those songs, although with the three new tunes thrown into the middle of the mini opera to complete it i think it'll be ok. We Got A Hit and the title cut (Endless Wire) will be included in full versions as bonus tracks, as they are to be singles. The band sounds mature. As if taking a final bow. Graceful, almost. Still explosive in places, tough in others, but thoughtful as well. I'm hoping for the best as the samples I've heard are extremely short and I know the entire songs go different places that I'm not hearing.
[QUOTE=Seafroggys;13485536]......okay. That was interesting.

I haven't listened to Bargain in a long time. Maybe I should put it on.[/QUOTE]
Thats a great song. I forget sometimes because its so common with Who fans, commercials, etc...