Back to the 'death clues' -- On Abbey Road, John, leading to procession with his long hair and wearing all white was seen more as a 'Godly' figure. Ringo could be argued as either a preacher or an undertaker. John maintained in interviews that 'I buried Paul' simply meant he thought his guitar was too loud during that take and he had buried the notes Paul was playing. That take was included in the final, and with all the speed ups and slow downs of backwards music and effects that went into the closing tracks of Strawberry Fields, the phrase took on a dark, sinister meaning. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as I think it was a little early for John to be playing around with clues then.

( Strawberry Fields was performed in the studio at a faster pace. The entire song was slowed down to give the vocals an eerie, other-worldly effect. Back then recording studios didn't have the computers or tech we are used to having now. A lot of the effects were home-made and quite crude by our standards now. A lot was recorded off a radio tuned to the BBC during broadcasts of Shakespearian plays -- most notably a performance of MacBeth that they included as Walrus wound down to the fade. A good example that I read, told of John telling a studio tech that for a song he wanted his voice to sound like one of those old crooners from the 1920's who used a megaphone. The tech took a piece of paper, rolled it into the shape of a megaphone and said, 'There ya go.' I am still amazed at the effects they pulled off back then, knowing the limitations of studios during the sixties.)

I think the death clues became a case of people wanting to find them everywhere and also catching a brief glint of fame in being the one who found another clue. They were finding them in albums as early as Rubber Soul. Oooh -- Rubber Soul means 'fake soul.' See, Paul's soul is fake so he must be dead. 'I'm Looking Through You' -- I'm looking through Paul, he must be a ghost!
Back in college, I did a thesis to graduate for my Political Science BA on the use of subliminal messaging and it's uses for governmental and merchandising population control. I used the death clue issue as a point example. Basically if people want something to be true, they will go to extremes to find the proof that confirms they were correct -- even if the proof has to be stretched and manipulated.

People found a lot of clues. I think most were coincidence. Most were stretched to the ridiculous...

The Sgt Pepper cover -- lots on that. The early Beatle wax figures looking at a grave. The flowers in the shape of a guitar spelling out 'Paul.' The hand over Paul's head (palm showing means death in some eastern countries). If you take a mirror edge and place it in the middle of the word 'HEARTS' on the drum so it reflects the top of the letters onto the mirror, it reads; HE^DIE. The diamond created by the A points to Paul. All this stuff was mondo cool, but I still think it goes to, 'if you look for something long enough you'll find it whether it's there or not. The cover was an elaborate statement meant to symbolize the group's new transcendence of music, leaving behind and burying their old image and musical stylings. Plus, it was really cool to look at when you were high.
Inside the album on the close-up picture of the four, Paul is wearing a arm patch reading 'OPD.' Some say it stood for 'Officially Pronounced Dead.' Paul said he got it from the Ontario Police Department.
On the back cover there is a pic in the lower right corner. All four were about the about the same height. Yet Paul is taller than the rest, AND, he has his back to us. Surely that's a clue. As a pro photographer I can't think of anything more visually boring as four people standing side by side who are all the same height. Often when faced with that, I'll stand somebody on a box just to break up the lines of the design of the picture. I'll even have them face different directions to add more interest. That's exactly what was said by the photographer who shot the back pic as well as the covers -- 'How many pics could you have of them just standing and looking at you? I wanted to create a design so I put one, who happened to be Paul, on a box. We were doing different poses during the shoot and Paul turned around and that's the one we all liked.'

At the end of Strawberry Fields Forever, Lennon yells out "Cranberry sauce!" Many people mistook it for "I buried Paul!"

I still think the only 'real' clues were on the White Album. It's still really fun to look at all the others people have found. Write in about any others you guys have heard about.

Yes, John has owned up to both versions, sauce and buried, during various interviews. He loved to keep us guessing.

[QUOTE=MalcolmYoungRock]Another "Paul is Dead" hoax, if you listen REALLY closely to the end of Strawberry Fields Forever, you can hear John shout "I BUURRIIIED PAAAUL"[/QUOTE]

It actually says "cranberry sauce" :thumb:

[QUOTE=Woodstock]Really isn't a meaning I don't think. But the group shows the greatest layering of vocals on the song. George, Paul, and John sung it once, and layered it twice. So you're really hearing nine voices.[/QUOTE]

That's amazing I will have to listen to it now

*listens*

Holy crap.

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]That's amazing I will have to listen to it now

*listens*

Holy crap.[/QUOTE]

I've always said that [b]Abbey Road[/b] contains the best vocal work by the Beatles. [i]Because[/i] is a shining example of this.

Abbey road may be their best album instrumentally. It is one of their best IMO

[QUOTE=bcf717]Back to the 'death clues' -- On Abbey Road, John, leading to procession with his long hair and wearing all white was seen more as a 'Godly' figure. Ringo could be argued as either a preacher or an undertaker. John maintained in interviews that 'I buried Paul' simply meant he thought his guitar was too loud during that take and he had buried the notes Paul was playing. That take was included in the final, and with all the speed ups and slow downs of backwards music and effects that went into the closing tracks of Strawberry Fields, the phrase took on a dark, sinister meaning. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as I think it was a little early for John to be playing around with clues then.

( Strawberry Fields was performed in the studio at a faster pace. The entire song was slowed down to give the vocals an eerie, other-worldly effect. Back then recording studios didn't have the computers or tech we are used to having now. A lot of the effects were home-made and quite crude by our standards now. A lot was recorded off a radio tuned to the BBC during broadcasts of Shakespearian plays -- most notably a performance of MacBeth that they included as Walrus wound down to the fade. A good example that I read, told of John telling a studio tech that for a song he wanted his voice to sound like one of those old crooners from the 1920's who used a megaphone. The tech took a piece of paper, rolled it into the shape of a megaphone and said, 'There ya go.' I am still amazed at the effects they pulled off back then, knowing the limitations of studios during the sixties.)[/QUOTE]

The only problem with the funeral theory for the Abbey Road cover is that in some of the other shots taken for the cover he did have his shoes on. Actually the way Strawberry Feilds was put together is that there was a
slower version and a faster and more intense version with horns and such. John liked both of them and wondered if there was anyway they could put the together. The problem of this was that they were in different keys and different tempos, so they slightly speeded up the slower one and slowed down the fast one and somehow were able to join them together. This change happens exactly 60 seconds into the song on one of the "Let me take you down" lines. Once you know where it is it's quite noticeable. And what John says at the end of Strawberry Feilds is in fact not "I buried Paul" but "Cranberry Sauce." Why he says this no one knows but it is very clearly heard on the Anthology version. Also the Shakespeare play heard in the background of I am the Wlarus is King Lear not Macbeth.

Oh sorry I geuss some people already commented on the Cranberry Sauce thing :confused:

I think it was King Lear in I am the Walrus, not Macbeth


/fangirl

Thanks for correcting me. I knew fields was put together with several version overlap to give it the surreal feel. I knew Shakes was in Walrus but I had a 'senior moment' on which play was broadcast. In early interviews, Lennon eluded to the 'burying of Paul' as one guitar being louder than the other as an explanation. In interviews much later he quoted the 'sauce.' CDs are wonderful in their clarity. Back when I was a kid we only had the vinyls and the hiss they made at high volume in an effort hear those background noises. Even a transfer to tape was from off the record so that wasn't much help. It was no wonder the imagination could run wild back then. :)

vynil was pretty cool IMO

Yea, I'm showing my age. Still have all the UK vinyls and Capitol vinyls up to Sgt Pepper after which it became Apple. I have 5 Sgt Peppers -- Capitol black label, Capitol Green label, Parlophone label and Apple label plus a picture disk. Have German and Swedish pressings from the Please, Please me era and the first 'Introducing the Beatles' LP on VeeJay records. Parlophone Magical Mystery Tour on the small 45 size as well as many 4 song Parlophone singles (45 size 2 songs each side). Solo career vinyl as well. Had I only known back then that I wasn't supposed to play them........ collect-ability you know... :) Se la Vie.

[QUOTE=bcf717]Yea, I'm showing my age. Still have all the UK vinyls and Capitol vinyls up to Sgt Pepper after which it became Apple. I have 5 Sgt Peppers -- Capitol black label, Capitol Green label, Parlophone label and Apple label plus a picture disk. Have German and Swedish pressings from the Please, Please me era and the first 'Introducing the Beatles' LP on VeeJay records. Parlophone Magical Mystery Tour on the small 45 size as well as many 4 song Parlophone singles (45 size 2 songs each side). Solo career vinyl as well. Had I only known back then that I wasn't supposed to play them........ collect-ability you know... :) Se la Vie.[/QUOTE]

I just inherited a bunch, I love the MMT picture book

I have just found out about the fantastic [b]Past Masters[/b] albums. Finally, all those long lost beatles singles, on two CDs!

Check the web at Amazon or a site like that. There is a large catalogue of re-issued albums and compilations that are available now. Past Masters is a great retrospective.

just out of intrest, does any one who likes the beates here like oasis?

Not me

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]just out of intrest, does any one who likes the beates here like oasis?[/QUOTE]

I have a friend who really likes them and the Beatles, but I haven't heard enough to make a judgement

[u]Support A Beatle[/u]: Vote for [b]Harrison[/b] in the recent [b]Greatest Guitarist Poll[/b].

That poll was hard. But I voted George Harrison

Hahah I did, I am starting a campaign

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He's in 2nd place right now

Alright

Who's this Randy Rhoads chap?

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Alright

Who's this Randy Rhoads chap?[/QUOTE]

He played guitar in Ozzy's band. He died young, so he burnt-out, making him even more famous and a legend. The same thing that happened to Hendrix.

[QUOTE=slowhand]He played guitar in Ozzy's band. He died young, so he burnt-out, making him even more famous and a legend. The same thing that happened to Hendrix.[/QUOTE]

Often dying is the best thing one can do for their career

My favorite Beatles song is Let it Be...

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Often dying is the best thing one can do for their career[/QUOTE]

This is true somtimes but both Hendrix and Rhoads were in the process of redefining their sound, Rhoads was going for a more classical rock sound and Hendrix was going for more of a funk/psychidellic sound. I have a feeling they would have become a lot more well known for their new ideas in music had they lived.

its areguable hendrix wouldve been more or less famous if he had stuck around. Didnt he only have about 3 original albums until he died? Its hard to say how their popularity evolved, whether from conceptions of whther they may have had a good future, or glorisized for the amount of time they were here. Hendrix was very sloppy...may not have suited well for the latter 70s, but who knows.

But to stay on topic, I borrowed Disc 2 of The White Album today, but its all messed up and some tracks are seperated at random parts...plus a buzzing noise in the backround. I dont know how those idiots do that and not notice...but I really want to buy it, dispite the fact it cost almost $35

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Often dying is the best thing one can do for their career[/QUOTE]

not for them,

[size=7]AH GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGERS[/size]

Long live Helter Skelter

w0rd ^

What are some of you fav. quotes from song lyrics from beatles songs.?

Mine

Goo Goo G'Joob

People will never forget the legendary Beatles...

not for a long time anyway

[QUOTE=slash89]People will never forget the legendary Beatles...[/QUOTE]

Eh you would be supprised how many people don't know them. All they know was the Beatles were a pop band that they talk about on the Simpsons somtimes. Whitch is just as bad as not knowing.

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]What are some of you fav. quotes from song lyrics from beatles songs.?

Mine

Goo Goo G'Joob[/QUOTE]

But nobody wants to know him, the can see that he's just a fool as he never gives an answear

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see

Well heres another place you can go, where everything flows, looking through the bent back tulips, to see how the other half live, Looking though a glass onion

Joo Joo was a man who thought he was a loner, but he knew it couldn't last, Joo Joo left his town in Tusian Arizona for some California Grass

Christ you know it ain't easy, you know how hard it can be, the way things are going there gonna crucify me

You say you'll change the Constitution, well you know, we all want to change your head, you tell me that its the institution, well you know, you better free your mind instead

My mother was of the sky, my father was of the earth, but I am of the universe, and you know what its worth

I know its mostly latter days stuff, but I'll think of more later.