I think they will, Wanderer. Pete has shown concern for long time fans who want to hear new stuff. And Europe has kind of been a warm up. Wire And Glass and the entire new album are due shortly and I can see them at least doing the Wire And Glass segment again. Plus they are charging a premium. So I think a little something special can be done. If they make it a little special. I hope they can realize that. Don't just play the new stuff, [i]present[/i] it. I think we'll get some new stuff. I'm not paying upwards of $100 to see a "hits" show.

I heard that the audiences weren't responding that well to the new material

The smaller crowds were. Larger festival crowds were not, according to Pete. And they have been playing a lot of festivals. Still, they seem to of dropped the "mini opera" from the set entirely. They have been doing Real Good Looking Boy, Mike Post Theme, and Pete did a solo acoustic full version of Endless Wire the other night. When they come to the states and with the new stuff released I hope they do at least 3 new tunes from the new album. Or like I was saying, try to find a way to "present" the new stuff. They can always start the show with it. Doubt they would. But it's something U2 did to great success on the ZooTV tour when they weren't sure about the new stuff. And they still do it to some extent. The audience is ready, the band comes out, plays 3 or 4 new tunes to warm 'em up, and then gives them what they want.

I dont care what they play, as lonjg as they play

I've seen 'em three times, so I kinda care. I could do with a little freshening up of the setlists, good as it is.

[QUOTE=JXD]I've seen 'em three times, so I kinda care. I could do with a little freshening up of the setlists, good as it is.[/QUOTE]


have you noticed they have kinda tamed their live shows?

Um, well, not really. These new gigs seem a bit more casual. At least they seem so on the webcast. I suppose age has something to do with it. Once you hit your sixties I suppose time starts moving faster. You age faster, I guess. Roger definitely seems more casual. Just goes out in an old t-shirt and shorts sometimes. Although it has been hot, so that might be why. And Pete has said in his diaries he hates when Rog wears his "granny glasses" because they make him look old. But for the most part, musically, they are still fiery as ever.

I saw them in '96 when they toured performing Quadrophenia with the "big band", in 2002 in Irvine and 2004 at the Hollywood Bowl. Very explosive shows, good band behind them, Pete leaps, windmills, and creates havoc on his guitar. They really haven't lost that much. And it is said Roger has been fighting a throat infection on this latest tour, so that might be a reason for his more casual approach. And I do expect the American shows to be kicked up a notch, while the European ones were a bit more reserved.

Tommorow (July 27) either a peice of a show or an entire show (not sure which) will be broadcast for free on thewholivetv.com. Live, as the site name suggest. You gotta register, I think. 21:00 British Standard Time. Which I think is 1:00 or 2:00pm PST, American. You might look into that timezone thing. So if you're are available, check it out and see for yourself...

lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?

I lol'd at the "Granny Glasses" thing.

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]

they haven't done that since the mid 60s

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]
Pete's hearing can't take it anymore. They haven't done any of that for ages.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]they haven't done that since the mid 60s[/QUOTE]


nah they def did that in the 70s

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=apple pie]nah they def did that in the 70s[/QUOTE]

The Who started doing that early on. Over the years it sort of evolved into different things. And yes, Pete did do some smashing in the early and mid-seventies here and there. But it wasn't a nightly thing or part of the performance. And the drums stayed put. Amps didn't come crashing down, things exploding. The only other band I've seen engage in this regularly with any kind of effectiveness was Nirvana. They were reckless enough to pull it off. It was The Who who put the violent edge in rock n roll, though. In the music itself and with unpredictabilty. And they meant to do it. It wasn't calculated, but it was deliberate. Townshend at work, mostly. A quote from Wiki's excellent Who page. It's been updated recently:

[b]"The Who were easily one of the most influential groups in rock music as a whole. The aggressive music made by the power trio formation of Townshend, Entwistle, Moon, was FOLLOWED by groups such as Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppelin, Rush, The Jam and nearly all punk and grunge bands."[/b]

Such is the extent of their influence. That's why they can play alongside bands less than half their age at festivals. They will be playing the Virgin Fest this year. Right between The Chili Peppers, Knarls Barkley, and The Raconteurs, among others. They also "invented" the Marshall Stack. True. Lot's of 'peeps think it was Hendrix because he kind of made it famous by fuc.king one every night (what a fruit loop). But The Who were making makeshift stacks from the beginning and Marshall developed the first Stacks just for them. Because they had to play LOUD to be heard over Moon. So the Who put a lot of the volume in rock, too. The louder, the better. :)

But yeah, the smashing thing is over. He's done it several times over the years, tops. Last time was in '04 in Japan. It's being auctioned for charity as his "Last Smashed Guitar". So it would have to be. Signed and mounted.

If I won the lottery that bitch would be mine....

About the marhsall stacks

Entwistle used them to make sure the bass gets heard over the drums
townshend used them so the guitar gets hear over the bass

I made a big report one time about the Who, this was in there too.

Been getting into behind blue eyes recently, pretty good song.

[QUOTE=JXD]They also "invented" the Marshall Stack. True. Lot's of 'peeps think it was Hendrix because he kind of made it famous by fuc.king one every night (what a fruit loop). But The Who were making makeshift stacks from the beginning and Marshall developed the first Stacks just for them. Because they had to play LOUD to be heard over Moon. So the Who put a lot of the volume in rock, too. The louder, the better. [/QUOTE]
Not to mention the fact that they were the first band to even use Marshall amps. When Marshall started making them he would use the Who as a testor to see what musicians liked, and didn't like.

On another note, I watched The Kids Are Alright (for the millionth time) today and got to thinking about what happened to the Gibson SG Townshend threw into the crowd. Did it even survive the crowd? Is it still around somewhere today? What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=loathed]Been getting into behind blue eyes recently, pretty good song.[/QUOTE]
That's a really good song. I don't appreciate it as much as I should because I've heard it so much. And I've never really liked it live for some reason? Perhaps the only Who song I don't like live. But it's really good songwriting and great lyrics. Townshend. Can't say enough about him.
[QUOTE=PremierManiac]Not to mention the fact that they were the first band to even use Marshall amps. When Marshall started making them he would use the Who as a testor to see what musicians liked, and didn't like. On another note, I watched The Kids Are Alright (for the millionth time) today and got to thinking about what happened to the Gibson SG Townshend threw into the crowd. Did it even survive the crowd? Is it still around somewhere today? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I was reading that on the Wiki page. First to use 100 watt heads, too. TKAA is a great film. And that SG? I remember now. He just tosses it. I would think it would of survived. Very well made instrument. And if so I have no idea where it might be? Maybe a Hard Rock Hotel or Casino/Restaurant? The Who do charity work with them, so you never know. But yeah, who took that home? Maybe I'll do a little research....

A roadie in the crowd got the SG back.

Yeah, Blue Eyes isn't that great live, but the recording is awesome, especially the alternate take on the extended Who's Next CD.

I think it was claimed by roadies who rushed out and grabbed it from the crowd. That's what I remember reading, anyways.

Yea I think it mentions in the booklet for TKAA that a roadie rushed to get the guitar back.

Oh. It's amazing that all the times I've watched it, I've never bothered to read that thing.

Man, I love TKAA. And 30 Years Of Maximum R&B Live. [I]Every[/I] Who fan needs to see that. It's all about the Who live. What could be better? With interviews, etc. Many consider it a TKAA companion. I do, myself.

And that roadie would of never gotten that guitar from me. Never.

Im taking a break from studies....listening to "Who's Next" :)
I only have "Who's Next" and L@L

What would you recommend for a next "Who" purchase?
i was thinking "Sings My Generation"..any better?

Damn.

I had went to a local record store here "Hot Wax" and picked up The Who - Magic Bus, which as I understand is a collection of live recordings. Anyways, I decided to go look at the blues section, and saw a Robert Johnson collection, which I had to have. I had to put The Who down though.

Don't worry. I'm going back someday for it. :cool:

Man someday might be too late :(

I'm not sure if I've ever heard of that. I've seen the MB single. Sounds a bit rare, maybe?

[QUOTE=JXD]Man someday might be too late :(

I'm not sure if I've ever heard of that. I've seen the MB single. Sounds a bit rare, maybe?[/QUOTE]
ehh

They have had a copy there for almost a year now : /

They got another one in there not to long ago.

It's this one here: [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008M9Z/sr=8-2/qid=1154301925/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-6594003-6175815?ie=UTF8[/url]

What did you get banned for?

Tickets go on sale Saturday......

Meh. Looks like thanks to Roger The Who webcasts are coming to an end. I'm not even sure if the ones for charity are going to be up and running. Although I think they might be when the tour hits the States. The two latest entries from Pete's Diary. ALso a new Who website will be coming. Not to be confused with Pete's current website. The Who sub site at Pete's location has been closed, though. Also, the Wire And Glass EP has been officially widely released today after being pushed back a week:


[b]28 July 2006
Roger and Pete in Madrid


I suppose I should have expected some discourse in Who chatrooms and Blogs about my recent diary postings, but NME and Rolling Stone?

It's Lebanon and Israel who are "at war" - not Roger and Pete.

Roger and I are in full accord about our lack of accord. Always have been.

One matter we will agree on.

Tonight we played the best show of our entire NEW career, our first ever show in Spain, at the Olympic Hall in Madrid. The crowd were spectacular. Beyond that, they were the most familiar with our music of any crowd we have ever played to.

This is not the old Who. We never said it would be. It is something else. It matters. The music came alive tonight in the actions and voices of the audience.

I can't wait to come back to Madrid and play again. I think on this too Roger and I will agree.

-PT[/b]
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[b]28 July 2006
Press Gang


Ah! Journalists. They trawl these diaries over breakfast and extrapolate something, teasing it to fit a headline created by some sub-editor with a sense of humour.

Today it is the British Times newspaper that correctly divines that I am trying to get a sense of our fans opinion about the value of webcasting so I can give Roger an accurate view, but I am most certainly not "sulking" by stopping the webcasting - I respect Roger's very real ambivalence about it. But of course it frustrates me, the Who is a partnership, neither of us get exactly what we want.

I am an internet nut. In Madrid last night I met at least a dozen shining Spanish fans who up until now I have known only through exchanges on the web on Blogs or through my appearances on In The Attic. There are two way of looking at these people - either they are real fans, who buy tickets and support me unconditionally as an artist, or - as decried by Janet Street Porter recently - they are Blogging 'Saddos'. Either way, we have fun, we connect, we are alive. At a concert where the Who play to what looked like 20,000 roaring people I also have a more intimate sense of connection with some of the audience. I suppose the only thing that's 'sad' about that to the press is that it doesn't make them any money.

Until Roger and I have some kind of agreement on webcasting I will stop pushing it. I sincerely thought he would get behind it if I demonstrated how it works. But I have no regrets, the experience has been hugely valuable to me and - as long as I can fund the business - I will continue to produce Live arts-based webcasts shows of some kind for the rest of my life, I feel certain of that.

I am taking down [url]www.thewho.com[/url] as well after tomorrow, but again this is not out of spite or anger. This was always something that was planned to be a part of the webcast package, and on this Roger is in agreement to help support a new and greatly revised website, reflecting more of his ideas, as soon as we can find a good webmaster. This new website will definitely go up prior to our first U.S. dates in September.

-PT[/b]

Does anyone here really like the song [U]Love Reign O'er Me[/U] off of Quadrophenia? I'm really into it at the moment.