[QUOTE=Iai]I agree with this statement totally.

I'd also like to see the band mix up their tone. Adam and Justin seem to have the same tone on every song, and it gets really boring after a while.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't hope too hard. With them having been influenced by Meshuggah, I can only see more rhythm coming. Adam and Justin often do sound very alike but at least you can hear both of them well.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Tool related aye? Anyone hear that tapeworm is no longer gnna happen. I only found out about it after hearing passive off the new APC alb. I think it would have been a cool project. Anyone got any further info on this? or any mp3's you could gmail me?[/QUOTE]


Dammit! That was some cool stuff. I only have like 3 or 4 tracks but it was definitely cool.

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]I wouldn't hope too hard. With them having been influenced by Meshuggah, I can only see more rhythm coming. Adam and Justin often do sound very alike but at least you can hear both of them well.[/QUOTE]

Well, they do that on purpose, don't they? Trying for the whole bass/guitar switch-up illusion. I've also noticed that Justin will often play higher notes than Adam, making him more pronounced in the mix and almost reversing their roles.

I like that kind of experimentation, but have you heard Meshuggah? Aside from randomly placed melodic breaks, there's hardly ANY melody at all!

[quote=cjborton]
Make new material, but don't drift to far from the sound that everybody loves.
[/quote]

I actually strongly disagree with this. This goes against the whole point of Tool; they've "drifted too far" from every sound they've created with each subsequent album! I want them to change, reinvent music, etc, just...not in a bad way. :(

I like Meshuggah but I'd rather see Tool playing melodies. I'm feeling lots of pinch harmonics, polyrhythms and a disgusting number of effects.

did anyone else think that billy's vocals on the new album were pretty good? i did. and my buddy the, 'depressed-suicidal-kurt cobain disciple' thought that track 12, fiddle and the drum, was depressing. and i almost slapped him when he said that Nirvana was more deeply involved in their music than Tool.

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]Dammit! That was some cool stuff. I only have like 3 or 4 tracks but it was definitely cool.[/QUOTE]

Where did ya find 'em? I looked on P2P but couldn't find anything...

[QUOTE=TomDelonge182]Edited because the poster is too stupid to breathe........[/QUOTE]
It wasn't meant in a bad way. I have a DVD were the band members of Tool confess to being gay. I love their music I listen to them almost everyday. I was saying it because they really are. Did you bann me perm. or temp. because I would really like to have my account back and don't worry if I get it back I won't post in the Rock and Metal section again. I am sorry for any trouble I have given you please let me have my account back. :upset:

i doubt tool is going to go completely metal man. i think they are just gonna make it a little heavier, maybe aenima heavier, but they will keep the magic.

seriously you guys be patient,there is still long time till it's realese.

Right people, Medapolis made the thread...we have to choose a song, is it aenema?

Ill make a stand for this

make sure you vote for at least

Opiate
Sober
Aenima
Pushi[B]t[/B]
Schisim


Then any others you wish. As long as we all vote for these ones, they will get through

/guilt for an attempted rigging. But since 2 RM mods are tool fans, it should go 'unnoticed'

It sucks. I wanna buy a TOOL album and some guys told me to buy undertow but i couldn't find it in a store.. it sucks!! Anyway, I saw Aenima and Lateralus. Should i buy one of these or keep searching for Undertow? help me out... please....

[QUOTE=Quebec]It sucks. I wanna buy a TOOL album and some guys told me to buy undertow but i couldn't find it in a store.. it sucks!! Anyway, I saw Aenima and Lateralus. Should i buy one of these or keep searching for Undertow? help me out... please....[/QUOTE]
Get Lateralus. Or Aenima. Either or both, you need them.

[QUOTE=xtreme450]did anyone else think that billy's vocals on the new album were pretty good? i did. and my buddy the, 'depressed-suicidal-kurt cobain disciple' thought that track 12, fiddle and the drum, was depressing. and i almost slapped him when he said that Nirvana was more deeply involved in their music than Tool.[/QUOTE]

Billy's vocals are awesome. I do think Fiddle and The Drum was kinda depressing. Awesome song though. Billy surprised me. i didn't know he could sing liek that.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]
I actually strongly disagree with this. This goes against the whole point of Tool; they've "drifted too far" from every sound they've created with each subsequent album! I want them to change, reinvent music, etc, just...not in a bad way. :([/QUOTE]

I agree, det..
I for one just want them not to listen to what the **** we think and make music that deals with whatever is inside them at the moment.
I can't garuantee we'll enjoy it straight away, but i'm pretty sure that if tool stay true to making meaningful music, I'll eventually like it....always a teething period - tool move in a sort of snail-shell/fibonacci spiral - always further away from their origins but still tracable in a direct line to everything they've done.
Except, perhaps, Maynard's Dick :)

[B][U]OPIATE[/U][/B]


Part Of Me

The first Tool song I ever heard, it had me hooked, nice little drum intro then the bass kicks in, then into drop D tuned guitar which is used in the majority of their songs. It wraps around about 3 and a half minutes, a nice introduction. Maynard provides good vocals, 8/10.

Hush

The single off the Opiate EP, it portrayed the members of Tool naked with cencor signs over their privates. A funky bass introduces us to a more aggressive song by Maynard, he conveys a message in "I can't say what I want to even if I'm not serious", "just kill me... just kill me... just kidding.." obviously angry at censors. A superb track, 9/10.



Opiate

Another recognizable song off the Opiate EP, the controversial issue of religion is dealt with here, whether about christian faith is yet to be properly analyzed. "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you", saying how for instance, this person can't handle their own life, so, unable to be strong enough turns to someone else (eg. God) to tell them how to live, "Deaf and blinded, dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to guide you, like me". Go to a Tool FAQ if wanting to learn more about the subject of this song. Simple music but effective, 9/10.

Sweat

Featured on a movie soundtrack that im not familiar with.some brief seconds of silence until your first blast of Tool is introduced (being the first track on the EP), and hopefully this song,being one of my first Tool songs, makes a good impression,which it did on me.the standout instrument here is the bass/drum tight combination that proved early on that Danny Carey was a force to be reckoned with.MJK vocals good as always..just a good track...as always.8/10

Cold And Ugly

'Throw that Bob Marley wannabe mother****er outta here'.Never recorded as a studio track, the live version provides just as well, and was brought back as a much more energetic version around 1998.would've provided very good as a second single if recorded in studio. particularly good work from Adam Jones with a very short but staunch solo which accompanies some aweesome bass work.very good recording quality considering its live it doesnt even really sound like it.good track. 7.5/10.

Jerk-Off

''Used to be a bunch of assholes that lived in this part of the building here..but we systematically removed them like you would any termite or roach'' an early introduction to Maynards sense of humour.a very energetic track that shows how good Maynard can scream which he later revisits on Ticks...he later changed his mind about the lyrics 'shoot you in your ****in head' which he felt was too violent and threatening. now it is '**** you in your ****in ***','kick you up your ****in ***'.much more appropriate :thumb: 8/10

[B][U]UNDERTOW[/U] [/B]

Sober

First single off Undertow, the group's first full length album, structured over a 2 chord guitar bit, metamorphasizes into an epic piece of Maynard's anger and brilliance. you will fall in love with this song but eventually it will grow off you after finding Tool's later work, 8/10.

Prison Sex

Tuned to drop B, this deals with the subject of abuse, Maynard was apparently abused as a child. Lyrical matter hard to tackle for first listeners, but it pictures out a perfect scenario in your head once you realise what MJK is talking about, and it proves to be a much more personal affair then bum-bum. A sweet song, shouldn't grow old anytime soon, 9/10.

Intolerance

"I shall not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do" - a line Maynard learnt in the army. This is the moral of the song, and at the start of the song, kicking off the album, is about 21 seconds of a kind of gurgling, drowning sound, setting the water theme for the Undertow album. A nice heavy track, one of my favourite Tool tracks over all, with a rather funny time signature at first but you'll get the groove soon, 9/10.

4 Degrees

A nice sitar kind of sound on this track, will seem slow paced but once you notice the potential of this song, you wonder why it was never on the radio, but why would it need to be? Nice vocals from MJK, and bass work is good by Paul D'Amour, 7/10.

Crawl Away

One of the first songs the band wrote, this was being performed in Opiate times and was handed in as a demo. The best part of this is the double kick bridge, I can't get enough of it, Danny Carey shines on this song, and of course so does MJK, 8/10.

Flood

A really long intro to this song (about 4 minutes) but still has an awesome effect to the atmosphere of it all.At live shows this usually pairs with Opiate and they dont include the 4 minute intro. a very powerful track, and though some people won't like it at first,be patient, wait it out. :rolleyes: It will serve you with a standout performance by Maynard, and of course the rhythm section show definate praise in the last (actual) song on Undertow.8.5/10

Bottom

Henry Rollins is featured in this track,and his part was performed by Zack de la Rocha when touring with RATM.another outstanding track on Undertow that grows on you with time.AGAIN Maynards voice is outstanding,'it leaves me dead inside,needless now, shameless now, nothing now, no one now, **** ends up....' sounding very deserted and angered.the best scream featured on Undertow,and a solo/palm muted section at the end that is worth listening to. 8.5/10

Swamp Song

The title describes the song mostly. very underrated by most people i know who own Undertow.a kind of a plodding dirty bass intro, but soon a nice sing along chorus comes in.'the bog is thick and easy to get lost in when you're a dumbass beligerant ****er'.try listening to this song and it could turn out to be one of your favourites. :thumb: 7.5/10

Undertow

The title definately reflects the albums sound nicely. a much more complex song than the others on the album, some of the bits featured have a wierd time signature that people will have trouble moshing to.but considering the nice guitar/bass work and funky drumming goin on, its a definite staple in Tools catalogue.an awesome breakdown at the end, definitely shows Maynards ability to hold his voice at the same pitch.outstanding song.
9/10.

Disgustipated

first part features Maynard acting as a preist in the church of carrots.'Let the rabbits wear glasses'.Is this really considered a song? my answer would be yes but i find myself usually not listening to it due to the POINTLESS 9 minutes of crickets chirping and later a muffled conversation.maybe somewhere down the road they will re-do this song because this DEFINATELY has the potential to be an awesome song. i dont think it has been done live ever.the repeated line 'this...is...necessary..life feeds on life' might seem boring but i find it one of the high points on Undertow.but the whole song together could be much better. 7/10 (this is neccesary)

[B][U]AENIMA[/U] [/B]

Stinkfist

First single, first vid and opener for the classic Aenima album, wierd delayed kind of effects at the start, feedback, then boom hits you with full Tool. Maynard seems muffled in his words on first listen but you eventually figure the guy out. Pre-chorus is nice, and the chorus is a catchy melody you'll be humming for days. Fans of Tool are instant fans of this one, 9/10.

Aenima

3rd single, and 2nd vid, the title track is one of Tool's more popular singles, people that listen to like black metal and isolate everything else know the lyrics to this song. the guitar and bass just flow off each other, while Danny plays hard and Maynard is ranting against smiley glad hands, hip gangsta wannabe's and insecure actresses. Should be one of the first songs you listen to if getting into Tool, 10/10.

46 & 2

2nd single off Aenima, instantly recognisable bass intro, and Adams wall of distortion and open D comes crashing down. Once it dies down Maynard softly says his lyrics then it bursts into a full fledged chorus. 'My shadow, my shadow, changes coming through my shadow, my shadow, shedding skin, I've been picking my scabs again'. Another classic, shouldn't be skipped on your CD player, 9/10.

H.

4th single off Aenima. These bass intros keep on coming, this time its full on distorted bass, wouldnt normally sound good, but fits right in with the Tool sound. A rather soothing verse and a clittle clicking drum beat go with the atmosphere of this song. This was one of my other first Tool songs, and I loved it. Another monumental chorus, one of the best bridges on the album, an awesome end section then it dies down to the first kind of atmosphere on the song, this is an epic Tool song of all proportions, you might get tired of it by overplaying though, so be warned, 9.5/10.

Eulogy

5th and final single off Aenima, this is another song apparently, that deals with religion, more so Jesus. But Maynard not one to be specific doesnt give exact detail to whom this song is about. But the lyrics seem to fit you know who's description pretty well "he had alot to say, he alot of nothing to say", "not all martyrs see divinity, but at least you tried" "come down, get off your ****ing cross, we need the ****ing space, to nail the next fool martyr", "to ascend you must die, you must be crucified, for our sins and our lies, good-bye" think for yourself. Accomponied by awesome instrumentals of course, this 8 minute epic was once my favourite Tool song until being knocked off by the next review... but don't let that put you off, this is an excellent song, 10/10.

Push.it

Both versions. Originally on Aenima, then rehashed on Salival the live album, I had ignored this track for some time, but once I listened, I was drawn in. This song has yet to be beaten. It goes 5 seconds short of 10 minutes, make sure no one bothers you on this song. Not to be played as back ground music of any type, this needs to be turned up LOUD. Feel Maynards anger. Feel Adams giant D riffs, Justin's ploddy bass, Danny's awesome fills and rolls. Every bit is masterpiece. Not a song to listen to when first purchasing the album, just let it come to you... 11/10.

Third Eye

Influenced by the philosophies of Bill Hicks, Aenima, a wonderful ride of genius songs and instrumental work finishes off with something like this. Who would've thought that repeating the same words "prying open my third eye" 14 times through a song (4 at the 10 minute mark, 10 at the 13 minute mark) could be so effective!! A quote that stays in your head for quite some time without being melodic or rhythmic, just powerful! Adam Jones, a man who doesnt consider himself an actual guitarist, comes up with the most original bits on guitar! The solo at the end of this song is great, there is 2 in the whole song. if you feel you can stomach 13 minutes of raw power and anger, please enjoy your experience. Check out the Salival version too, 10/10.

Hooker With A *****

A much more agressive Opiate style track on Aenima, this adresses fans accusing Tool of selling out on this record. very fitting lyrics,you will eventually know all the words without looking it up on the internet they just come to you. a weird time signature that i couldnt quite comprehend on drums and guitar but eventually picked it up. this definitely shows that Tool can perform straight angst metal (- the crap).9/10

Jimmy

Another underrated track compared to the quality of the other songs on Aenima.i didn't care for it at the start,but it soon grew on me ALOT and ended up being one of my favourites,making Aenima listenable the whole way through.a funny little keyboard Bungle-esque intro to this. 'hold..your light..eleven held me through each gentle step...by step..by inch by loaded memory,ill move...to heal..as soon as pain allows so we can re...unite..and both move on together..hold your light...eleven held me through each single step...by step..by inch by loaded memory..till one...and one..are one..eleven..so glow...child...glow..i'm...heading back...HOOOOMMME' - Maynard at his absolute finest. 9/10.


[B][U]LATERALUS[/U] [/B]


Schism

1st single off Lateralus. Probably the most well known Tool track due to its recognisable bass riff and the strange video. At this time Tool were becoming much more progressive-like, but still maintain the heavy metal side on such tracks as this one. A very well put together bridge then it breaks down to the nearly orchestral outro. "I know the pieces fit, cuz I watched them fall away", "cold silence has, a tendency to, atrophy any, sense of compassion" "between supposed lovers". All well known Maynard lyrics. First time listeners should have a place to call their own with this song, 10/10.

Parabol/a

The 2nd single from Lateralus, the first 3 minutes are Parabol, then Parabola comes crashing down in all its pulsating power. just don't shy away when parabol comes on, this might fool you thinking Tool has gone soft, no no, it's just an intro, build up I should say to one of Tool's most epic singles and a general favourite of fans. Guitar work (drop BE) is particularly good, so look out for Adams work on this song. Awesome 10/10.

Lateralus

3rd single off Lateralus, but not accompanied by a video. A 9 minute CLASSIC Tool song with a nice little simple introduction while the drums slowly build up until, in typical fashion, everything comes to full power as the main riff explodes. "Black and white are, all I see, in my infacny, red and yellow have came to be, reachin out to me, let's be seen" are the first few words Maynard preaches in the tight drum and bass duo. Palm muted guitar comes in. Then the chorus "over-thinking, over-analyzing separates the body from the mind". With a lot of different sections plus wicked bass sliding in the end section you have to check out this song, afraid or not afraid. It will do you well, 11/10.

Ticks & Leeches

The only song Maynard will not occasionly perform live, it screwed up his voice in Lateralus recordings for 3 weeks, he knew it would happen so they recorded that song last. An absolute screamer for Maynard I'm surprised he can scream this good, it; s not his usual yell. Fast paced lyrics and an unforgettable, radio-like chorus make this one.. well... unforgettable. With a bridge that repeats the same awesome riff for over 2 minutes, you know there is going to be a break down... and there is! Tool's best break down is in this song let me tell you and Maynard goes off! the stand out overall is Danny's drumming this is his song to shine and he does it with ease. Fill's that will make you fill your pants, I'm telling you, 10/10.

The Grudge

The opening track for Lateralus in all it's genius, this song is a staple for live shows. 8 minutes strong, it is all you can expect of Tool, but in a fully renewed Lateralus style. With one of the stand out screams that has been performed in the last 10 years... 8 bars or something... not a song to be missed. LET GO, 10/10

Eon Blue Apocolypse/The Patient

A much different approach proving why Lateralus is a much more maturing affair than it's predessecors (spelling?).an intro that molds in so well to The Patient,a little simple guitar part that is very effective.then comes The Patient which is again a very different kind of Tool, and Maynard has a very APC feel in his voice in the verses.soon comes the multivocals 'gonna wait it out;be patient' which fit well together and towards the end the extended chorus sends shivers down my spine. :lol: cheese.a much different track though, it could grow old on you being probably the weakest track on the album,but then again ALL TOOL SONGS ARE = so think for yourself.8/10

Disposition/Reflection/Triad

22 minute epic split into 3 sections, Dispostion the intro, Reflection the main song, and Triad the outro. Disposition serves as the relaxing point of the album and meshes well with its counterpart. Reflection is the standout part in this trio, with nice synthesizer/guitar work from Adam and innovative drum techniques from Danny. One of the longer Tool songs in their resume, this is much more instrumental, but once vocals are provided it makes the song much more established. This doesn't seem like something Tool would do, but it comes up to a nice finish and you then let Triad kick in, leave you stunned and just BEGGING for the next Tool album.10/10

this took really long... :o

[SIZE=5]THINK FOR YOURSELF, QUESTION AUTHORITY[/SIZE]

[B][U]SALIVAL[/U] [/B]

Maynard's Dick

Off Salival,considered just a mere stopgap between Aenima and Lateralus, which, at least in my country of New Zealand is hard to find in stores. The 'hidden' track on the album, it is the only original new piece of work the band did on it, and even though being 3 minutes something (unusual time for a Tool song post Opiate) they still pull it off like Aenima never happened. With an acoustic intro (yet another extremity for Tool), Maynard sings in a perculiar voice, yet it works for the occasion, and the chorus (slide a mile six inches at a time on Maynard's Dick) is verrry catchy. Ending in perfect Tool style (farting aside), this is another essential track, 8/10.

No Quarter

At first people will think a band like Tool couldn't pull off a Led Zeppelin cover, but once provided with the oppurtunity they proved themselves on this track,especially Adam Jones.In my view alot better than the original, not just being an obsessed Tool fan....i listened to the original than the cover, and i'm not being biased...this is really good. probably the only Tool guitar i can't pull off straight away.like Pu****, no distractions should be present in your time of listening to this epic. 10/10

You Lied

Justins old band Peach did this song originally, but of course Tool blew it out of the water..but the original is still respectable.the first cover i heard Tool do, this is definitely a much more atmospheric track,like Merkaba (the intro to this song).FYI Justin sings backing vocals on this song.slow paced,but it works out just fine,this is a shining moment on Salival. 9/10.

KOOL BEANS

^^^good job man^^^
that was a pretty good review
maybe everyone will stop asking what album they should get now (not that theres anything wrong with it because theres not that many but it just kind of gets annoying after a while..) but yeah good job :thumb:

^ Agreed. I liked that review, hopefully people will take the time to read it.

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]

Lateralus

... 11/10.

[/QUOTE]
There you have it folks.


Thanks for giving it an honest score, most people overlook that song.

thanks i originally put this up on ultimate-guitar.com but i missed out a few songs so i figured i might as well do their whole catalogue so no one could say i missed anything. i wasn't going to review the filler (eg. - ions).... anyway people here are generally more appreciative of Tool. and well theres an official thread for all things Tool here so this seems like its rightful home. i had ALOT of time on my hands that night.

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]
Push.it

Both versions. Originally on Aenima, then rehashed on Salival the live album, I had ignored this track for some time, but once I listened, I was drawn in. This song has yet to be beaten. It goes 5 seconds short of 10 minutes, make sure no one bothers you on this song. Not to be played as back ground music of any type, this needs to be turned up LOUD. Feel Maynards anger. Feel Adams giant D riffs, Justin's ploddy bass, Danny's awesome fills and rolls. Every bit is masterpiece. Not a song to listen to when first purchasing the album, just let it come to you... 11/10.
[/QUOTE]

Yes. YES. What an amazing song. And none better to re-write.

Not to mention Paul D'amour co wrote it back before he left.

Who the hell is Harry Manback? yeah remember a track on Aenima called "message to harry manback" Who the hell is he?

I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.[/QUOTE]
That is indeed what we've been told. Hard to trust TOOL sometimes, though.

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]I was rumored that maynard had some people over and one guy inparticular wasnt happy with maynard. he called and left that message on maynards machine. Thats the rumor. if somebody else has better intel on it please fill me in.[/QUOTE]

To further that, it was allegadely (pass the dictionary please) someone who lived in the same house with Maynard who was kicked out one day by the tenant. The resulting message was a way of getting back

I know the guy was Italian as well, hence the language and the 'if I ever see your f***ing face around, in Europe or Italy' but.

Or maybe thats all rubbish, but thats all I know

Great review.Excellent job. As for Harry Manback, I hear that he was like a roomate of Maynard's and he stole something, and Maynard kicked him out. "Hm? You think you're cool right? Hm? Hm?
When you kicked out people [out of] your house" very funny songs.

I just started listening to Tool recently and I really like them. I read all 67 pages of this thread so im going to say stuff about recent topics on here. First I want to say that I hope that the new cd isnt too heave because i really like the more melodic stuff they have, but if it is anything like lateralus I will probably still like it. As for wierd/cool things happening while listening to songs, the other night I was listening to lateralus(the cd) with my eyes closed b/c i was really tired. And whenever I opened them I could kind of see the yellow/green cirlce of eyes(or whatever they are supposed to be) spinning. It was really wierd. Another one was while reading this I was listening to 46&2 and somebody has a picture of a guy punching something repeatedly, when the song got to the part where it stops and repears the same note four times the punching was at the exact same times as the notes. It freaked me out a little. Whenever I listen to a stranger by A Perfect Circle, the part where he screams in the background alwasy scares me even to I know its there. And I have a question about APC. Does Billy or Maynard write the lyrics? I read somewhere that Billy writes them.





Sorry if Im talking too much. :rolleyes: