Yeah hopefully it'll be on iclips. It was streamed live on iclips over the weekend (although I heard the quality was a little iffy)

I just found Levon Helm's set which I'm really excited to hear again since it might've been the highlight of the whole festival. That guy sure knows how to put on a show. I already managed to snag up most of the other sets from the weekend including Umphrey's and Grace Potter who both rocked but unfortunately we were on our way during Grace's set and setting up tents during Umphrey's. Also missed Ratdog's set which was pretty mediocre. They opened the show with Help On The Way and Bobby forgot the first line... it's time he moved onto to something new since Ratdog is kind of boring and just not very good imo. I guess we didn't miss much by leaving after Levon's set.

And the Grateful Dead and Phish are usually mentioned as the best starting point for jambands. To be honest, I liked both bands when I first started listening to jambands but the band that really drew me in was Tea Leaf Green. They were the first non classic rock band that I fell in love with. I became a deadhead only after I had already become obsessed with Tea Leaf Green. As for Phish, I like them a lot, but can't count them as one of my absolute favorites since they are lacking a bit in the songwriting department. Having said that, I'm listening to Mike's Song right now and I'm very excited for the Phish reunion that looks very possible right now since I missed out on them while they were still together.

I haven't ever really been the biggest fan of Ratdog, to me PL and Friends >>>>>>> Ratdog by far. That's cool that they played Help though. Really The Dead's American Beauty is what drew me into Jam Bands, listening to that album for the first time was absolutely magical.

I agree. Ratdog kind of sucks. Same slow, repetitive grooves over and over again and Bobby insists on singing Jerry songs which he's no good at singing anyways. From what I've heard, it's pretty boring. Phil on the other hand, is still breaking through barriers and sounding fresh. I have a ton of respect for Phil's post Dead projects. Can't wait to see him and Levon in July.

Yeah, Phil Lesh is absolutely amazing. The only time I really liked Weir's voice was from Anthem > From the Mars Hotel. I really don't like in the early days, and it's gone to **** for the most part now. He sounds really good on American Beauty, but I guess they all pretty much made vocals one of the biggest if not the biggest priority on that album. I saw Anthem To Beauty and Jerry was like "we tried to not get so hung up on the instrumentals and focused more on the vocals", it payed off for the time being.

80/35 is a mini-festival that's going to be on the 4th and 5th of July in my hometown.

Flaming Lips, Yonder Mountain, Public Property, Jakob Dylan

Nice, I'm looking forward to Nedfest here. It's got David Grisman Quintet, Steve Kimmock, The Motet, Kyle Hollingsworth, Leftover Salmon, and Shanti Groove.

[QUOTE=UmphreysHead;16394568]Yeah, Phil Lesh is absolutely amazing. The only time I really liked Weir's voice was from Anthem > From the Mars Hotel. I really don't like in the early days, and it's gone to **** for the most part now. He sounds really good on American Beauty, but I guess they all pretty much made vocals one of the biggest if not the biggest priority on that album. I saw Anthem To Beauty and Jerry was like "we tried to not get so hung up on the instrumentals and focused more on the vocals", it payed off for the time being.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Bobby's voice has necessarily gone bad, but he doesn't use it as well now. He sings too many Jerry songs with Ratdog, and his voice just doesn't work at all for a lot of those songs.

I'm hopefully going to Gathering of the Vibes about 45 minutes away from me in July. Phil & Friends, The Black Crowes, Derek Trucks & The Soul Stew Revival, Taj Mahal, Jackie Greene... it should be a pretty good time.

Has anyone here seen Yonder Mountain before? I'm thinking about seeing them this week, tickets are $35 though which seems a little pricey to me. Are they worth that?

Yonder is amazing live. Amazing. Thats about how much I paid when I saw them recently. You should definitely go.

I've heard Yonder is really good live. I'm seeing them the beginning of August with Keller at Red Rocks. :)

[QUOTE]I've heard Yonder is really good live. I'm seeing them the beginning of August with Keller at Red Rocks. [/QUOTE]

Yeah Yonder is some good ****.. And have fun seein' Keller.

Just wanna say whats up to Robo and jong. Long time no talk fellas, I see that the Classic Rock forums gone under. Not surprising.

[QUOTE=morrison357;16401047]Yeah Yonder is some good ****.. And have fun seein' Keller.

Just wanna say whats up to Robo and jong. Long time no talk fellas, I see that the Classic Rock forums gone under. Not surprising.[/QUOTE]

Hey man, how's life been? And yeah, I came on one day and saw no more classic rock thread and was pretty disappointed. But I guess a few of us still pop in this thread.

I don't think I'll get to see Yonder because my parents will be hard to convince since they don't trust me at all and won't let me drive 45 minutes away to go to a concert. And I don't have enough energy to convince them.

Umphrey's, that's awesome you get to see them at Red Rocks. Red Rocks looks like the coolest place to see a concert. I need to get out there some day.

[QUOTE]Hey man, how's life been? And yeah, I came on one day and saw no more classic rock thread and was pretty disappointed. But I guess a few of us still pop in this thread.

I don't think I'll get to see Yonder because my parents will be hard to convince since they don't trust me at all and won't let me drive 45 minutes away to go to a concert. And I don't have enough energy to convince them.

Umphrey's, that's awesome you get to see them at Red Rocks. Red Rocks looks like the coolest place to see a concert. I need to get out there some day.[/QUOTE]

Life's been good, busy, but good none the less.

And yeah Red Rocks isn't def. a place I need to go and see a concert. There were so many sweet Dead concerts there in the day, the venue really seemed to bring out there good side. The Greek Theatre and Shoreline as well.

My friend was telling me of all the places he's been (this is including The Warfield, The Tabernacle, Hornings, both Filmores) he has said that Red Rocks is by far his favorite place.

Did anyone here go to Bonnaroo?

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Saw Phil this weekend... my life will never be the same.

Nice man. What show did you catch? A few of my friends were at the show in Chicago (6/13, I think), with Levon opening. I've been listening to a few of his sets from the latest shows - they are all spectacular. I can't wait to see him at ALLGOOD.

Aw man, I'm jealous of your friends. I have that 6/13 show on my computer and it is epic! Help On The Way > Slipnot! > Wharf Rat > Eyes Of The World > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven > I Know You Rider Mason's Children > Franklin's Tower is just about the nastiest second set I've ever heard from Phil. Download it if you don't have it.

I was at the 6/22 show in New Hampshire which maybe isn't quite as good as 6/13 but it was still amazing. The venue really sucked. New Hampshire is pretty conservative (I don't want to be offensive, but redneck is probably a better word to describe people up there) and they didn't take the invasion of thousands of pot-smoking hippies very well. Cops and security guards everywhere. The ****ing county sheriff was there. But Phil made up for it by playing Shakedown Street and Truckin' which both seemed very appropriate for the place. The Shakedown was honestly the best I've ever heard. 1979-01-15 is good, but you need to download this show to hear the Shakedown. Jackie did a great job on the vocals and it went into this crazy psychedelic jam that eventually segued into Jack Straw which really surprised me.

Set 1:
Playin' In the Band >
Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo
W.S. Walcott Medicine Show#
Alabama Getaway*
Big River*
Gone Wanderin'*
Loose Lucy

Set 2:
Shakedown Street* >
Jack Straw
Like A Ball And Chain*
Viola Lee Blues >
Dark Star >
China Doll* >
Dark Star >
Mason's Children >
Sugaree
Truckin'
E: Dancin' In The Streets*

# With Levon Helm, Jimmy Vivino (Levon's other guitarist) and Levon's horn section
* With Theresa Williams (Larry Campbell's wife, kinda Phil's new Donna)

Dancin' sucked but everything else was tight. The Viola Lee Blues > Dark Star was a crazy trip. I heard definite teases of Cumberland Blues and China Cat Sunflower in that jam, and possibly The Wheel as well.

Also, check out the 6/21 show. I wasn't there, but downloaded it and it's pretty good stuff.

Yea, I've downloaded the 6/13 show, haven't listened yet though. The show you saw looks great. Aside from the obvious heavy-hitters, you got a Big River, which is like one of my favorite songs ever for some reason. I'm really hoping for a Viola Lee or Shakedown (both?) at ALLGOOD.

Also, 1/15/79 is by no means the end-all-be-all of Shakedowns. It's a solid one (what draws me to this particular version is the segue from Miracle, wow!). 6/30/85 is the real killer, absolutely packed with energy and a killer jam that keeps building, culminating in a nice peak before they return to earth. The rest of this show ain't so bad either (June 85 was hot hot hot; check out 6/27 at SPAC too).

I'm a pretty big fan of the Halloween '79 Shakedown; it's decently long too, like 17 minutes. 11/29/80 is also really good as well.

new years 69>70

most classic show ever.

i havent listened to the dead in probably a year. i still have some shows backed up on disc.

[QUOTE=Lunch;16440118]Yea, I've downloaded the 6/13 show, haven't listened yet though. The show you saw looks great. Aside from the obvious heavy-hitters, you got a Big River, which is like one of my favorite songs ever for some reason. I'm really hoping for a Viola Lee or Shakedown (both?) at ALLGOOD.

Also, 1/15/79 is by no means the end-all-be-all of Shakedowns. It's a solid one (what draws me to this particular version is the segue from Miracle, wow!). 6/30/85 is the real killer, absolutely packed with energy and a killer jam that keeps building, culminating in a nice peak before they return to earth. The rest of this show ain't so bad either (June 85 was hot hot hot; check out 6/27 at SPAC too).[/QUOTE]

On the night I was born, 9/22/88, the Grateful Dead were a few blocks down in Manhatten playing at the Garden and they opened the show with a pretty nice Shakedown. Maybe I mostly like it cause it was on my birthday though.

And yeah, Big River was tight. Larry Campbell sang lead and his wife did a really good job on the back up vocals.

Lunch, have you ever read the Illustrated Trip? It's a really awesome book that you should check out if you haven't. Pricey though.

[QUOTE=JonG;16440647]new years 69>70

most classic show ever.

i havent listened to the dead in probably a year. i still have some shows backed up on disc.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I completely agree. A China Cat > IKYR opener into an absolute monster first set and a killer second.

[QUOTE=UmphreysHead;16440212]I'm a pretty big fan of the Halloween '79 Shakedown; it's decently long too, like 17 minutes. 11/29/80 is also really good as well.[/QUOTE]

Yes, both of these shows are great. 11/29 is an outstanding AUD, with Jerry on fire for the whole show. Shakedown>Franklin's is fun, the jam into Truckin' is awesome, and the Other One rips. Nice long first set as well.

[QUOTE=JonG;16440647]new years 69>70

most classic show ever.

i havent listened to the dead in probably a year. i still have some shows backed up on disc.[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard this show in awhile, but I remember it being pretty good, not an all-time great. China>Rider opener is hard to go wrong with, but there are plenty of other 69 shows that top this one (the spring Fillmore West shows, obviously, along with the April shows at the Ark and Avalon). Also, this new format of Grateful Dead, with their long psychedelic journeys coupled with the shorter, more song-oriented material of Workingman's Dead and American Beauty, really found it's home by May 70, at least for me. 5/2/70 is notorious and immortalized as DP 8, and for good reason, but the surrounding shows are also worth a listen, notably 5/15.

[QUOTE=robo2448;16440971]On the night I was born, 9/22/88, the Grateful Dead were a few blocks down in Manhatten playing at the Garden and they opened the show with a pretty nice Shakedown. Maybe I mostly like it cause it was on my birthday though.[/QUOTE]

Yea, listening to a birthday show is fun. They played on my bday, 7/31/88, as well. Also, although this is mostly unrelated, check out the 9/18/87 show at MSG. Although short overall, this show smokes and contains probably the best Morning Dew I've ever heard. Hell in a Bucket gets things going, Sugaree is nice, Candyman is excellent, and the Bird Song really delivers to end the first set. Second opens with a Shakedown, speaking of that, although this one is kinda flat and doesn't really go anywhere. By Terrapin though, the band is on again. GDTRFB out of Space is really fun, Jerry shreds on Watchtower, and then the Dew really must be heard to be believed. Then Bobby follows with a great Good Lovin' which they jam in La Bamba, complete with Jerry vocals, triggering ecstatic crowd reaction.

[QUOTE]Lunch, have you ever read the Illustrated Trip? It's a really awesome book that you should check out if you haven't. Pricey though.[/QUOTE]

No, in fact I've only seen it around once or twice. Looked really cool though. I actually just finished Blair Jackson's excellent Jerry biography (titled [I]Garcia: An American Life[/I]), which I would highly recommend.

[QUOTE=robo2448;16440971]On the night I was born, 9/22/88, the Grateful Dead were a few blocks down in Manhatten playing at the Garden and they opened the show with a pretty nice Shakedown. Maybe I mostly like it cause it was on my birthday though.

And yeah, Big River was tight. Larry Campbell sang lead and his wife did a really good job on the back up vocals.

Lunch, have you ever read the Illustrated Trip? It's a really awesome book that you should check out if you haven't. Pricey though.[/QUOTE]

Cool, 9/22/87 O'er here. 9/22 shows are usually the best.

I should pick up that Garcia biography. I also really want to read Living With The Dead by Rock Scully since Rock must have a pretty interesting take on everything...

I just watched that Morning Dew on youtube and Jerry gets really into it. Wow. I'll still take the Cornell version over it, but that was amazing. I also saw that Ratdog played Morning Dew for the first time ever the other day. Probably wasn't that good though.

I don't have the NYE '69 show but the shows from The Ark in April of '69 that Lunch mentioned are definitely worth checking out. He Was A Friend Of Mine opener one night on that run (forget which one).

Doctor D, any other 9/22 shows I need to check out? It is in fact a pretty sweet birthday.

9/22/91 Boston Garden, from what I hear, is a good one. Shakedown opener is always a good sign, plus this run is considered by many one of their last epic runs. I've heard the shows from a few nights later and they definitely qualify as epic.

Robo, the youtube clip is very cool, although it suffers from weak audio quality like youtube clips tend to. Still, during the final solo, Jerry gives that awesome, "Yea, I got this" look, he's so in the zone and delivers that final burst with ferocity.

[QUOTE=Lunch;16449381]9/22/91 Boston Garden, from what I hear, is a good one. Shakedown opener is always a good sign, plus this run is considered by many one of their last epic runs. I've heard the shows from a few nights later and they definitely qualify as epic.

Robo, the youtube clip is very cool, although it suffers from weak audio quality like youtube clips tend to. Still, during the final solo, Jerry gives that awesome, "Yea, I got this" look, he's so in the zone and delivers that final burst with ferocity.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... I might have to make that my first '90s Dead show. I haven't ventured past '88 yet.

Jerry also gets very into the vocals on that Morning Dew. The guitar is brilliant of course, but his singing sounds soulful.

There are plenty of 89/90 shows that I would recommend before that 91 show. I really think that Fall 89>Spring 90 was a peak for the band. Brent especially was at the top of his game and the boys sounded comfortable and tight for just about every show. Check out the Alpine 89 run (7/17-19), 10/9/89 (Dark Star breakout anyone? Crowd goes nuts), 10/26/89 (most intense Dark Star since the golden era), 3/29/90 (Branford Marsalis sits in on Birdsong and then the entire second set; LEGENDARY Eyes, great Estimated, Dark Star...). Summer 91 is really hot too - 6/16, 6/17 are two great examples. Or check out 9/10/91 MSG, with Branford again, this time for the whole show.

[QUOTE=Lunch;16450797]There are plenty of 89/90 shows that I would recommend before that 91 show. I really think that Fall 89>Spring 90 was a peak for the band. Brent especially was at the top of his game and the boys sounded comfortable and tight for just about every show. Check out the Alpine 89 run (7/17-19), 10/9/89 (Dark Star breakout anyone? Crowd goes nuts), 10/26/89 (most intense Dark Star since the golden era), 3/29/90 (Branford Marsalis sits in on Birdsong and then the entire second set; LEGENDARY Eyes, great Estimated, Dark Star...). Summer 91 is really hot too - 6/16, 6/17 are two great examples. Or check out 9/10/91 MSG, with Branford again, this time for the whole show.[/QUOTE]

Those shows all sound pretty good. I've heard a bunch of stories about the Alpine Valley shows and definitely get to them eventually. Then probably the Branford shows right after that. What I love about The Illustrated Trip is that it makes notes on every single show they did and even gives some of them stars so someday my goal is to have all the shows with stars downloaded and give them a listen. That's a pretty tough task though. They're quite a few of them.