So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.

[QUOTE=fatbandit]So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.[/QUOTE]

In most genres, most of the time, yes. It's not often where a Bassist actually contributes a lot to the writing process of a song. I'm aware of his tendencies to not stick to the norm. It's fair enough that you think he was an inventive bass player, I think that too, but I still think he would have been more suited as a Lead Guitarist. It's perhaps the fact that he had that tendency, that he created a unique style on Bass.

I agree that roots are often what the bass plays, hell, I should know! :lol:

However, I think its unfair to say 'you don't play roots, we're not letting you do bass' (bit more extreme than what you were trying to say, I know...). Dirk lance in Incubus played mostly interesting basslines, not roots. To say that he would have been best suited to a different instrument would be silly. Its the input that you get from different types of people that evolves the instrument. A drummer, for example, may add a more rhyhmic feel, while a guitarist is more melodic perhaps.

Cliff also had a classical background. I doubt sincerely he only played shred bass.

hey can anyone hook me up with master of puppets. Im on a weird little thing where i wanna learn a bunch of metallica solos, and i dont have the track

Sure. Add me on msn [email]dark____nation@hotmail.com[/email] (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Sure. Add me on msn [email]dark____nation@hotmail.com[/email] (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.[/QUOTE]


i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?[/QUOTE]

If you can wait a bit, I can do it for you.

dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Tell me about it mate. I was working the phones 'til 4pm. I'll try upload it as soon as possible, but I only have a 256k connection. It'll be here soon enough.

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]It's the band that Jason was in before he joined metallica,It's supposed to be bass fueled thrash metal, I've never heard it so i dont know if that is true, so has anyone ever heard them and are they any good?[/QUOTE]

Flotsam are pretty good thrash

Ron was treated very unfairly in Metallica, i've read what he has to say

Hm. I use AIM (its chris6mm) too if that's any better for you. If not, let ThrashMaster upload it :thumb:

Ok, I got MoP uploaded.

[URL=http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZQUELGBAS8NL2YW0GHFXQJ5Q4 ]Metallica - Master Of Puppets[/URL]

Enjoy buddy.

Has anyone here heard Ron McGovney...I haven't but if anyone has got any can you upload it? From what I have heard he James taught him to play bass in high school.

[QUOTE=metalcritter666]Has anyone here heard Ron McGovney...I haven't but if anyone has got any can you upload it? From what I have heard he James taught him to play bass in high school.[/QUOTE]

here ya go:

[URL=http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra]The Mechanix[/URL]

Uhm, he will have played stuff like Hit the Lights pretty much as it is on Kill Em All I should think. In an interview, he said he doesn't play bass anymore, and he's not very good. I don't think he went any firther with bass after they replaced him TBH.

god Metallica has got to be the most kick *** Metal/Rock band ever. =D My favorite song is Leper Messiah..

But when they released St. Anger, it completely changed their styles I think.

Should have kept the same but they're so original...that's what makes it good.

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]Ok, I got MoP uploaded.

[URL=http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZQUELGBAS8NL2YW0GHFXQJ5Q4 ]Metallica - Master Of Puppets[/URL]

Enjoy buddy.[/QUOTE]


hey i wanna thank you twice for this



THANK YOU




THANK YOU :thumb:


when i learn the solo, ill post if for ya..... im working on "one" taps right now

[QUOTE=wicked_child]here ya go:

[URL=http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra]The Mechanix[/URL][/QUOTE]

Vocals on that sound s[B][I][/I][/B]hit to me, is that James singing?

So did Dave Mustaine make the mechanix before he came to metallica?or did he come to metallica then made it with james and lars?

Dave wrote The Mechanix when he was with Metallica. Once Dave left James changed the song a bit.

Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).

[QUOTE=wicked_child]here ya go:

[URL=http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra]The Mechanix[/URL][/QUOTE]
That's absolutely horrible :lol: but then again it is a demo recorded in the early days...

The vocals make the song sound so bad.

Why is it tuned in F? I've found a live concert from '84 in Paris and everything is tuned to F...any reason?

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]Vocals on that sound **** to me, is that James singing?[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes it is.

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).[/QUOTE]

I agree

wow i haven't posted here in forever

Metallica Kicks A** because A)They Rock B)They've lasted the test of time (23 Years of Rock) and C)They're Original

[QUOTE=metal guitar]Dave wrote The Mechanix when he was with Metallica. Once Dave left James changed the song a bit.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure Dave wrote The Mechanix before he joined Metallica. Read the booklet in the remastered Killing Is My Business CD by Megadeth. He talks about it in there.

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).[/QUOTE]
Yeah he did, he added about 3 minutes to the song...I think the Version on the San Diego DVD is the link posted earlier.

[QUOTE=omegadjn]Metallica Kicks A** because A)They Rock B)They've lasted the test of time (23 Years of Rock) and C)They're Original[/QUOTE]

obviously you're new, lol. welcome to the forums


i'm a little confused, so please don't flame me. I'm not really familiar with all of the tracks on Kill 'Em All (there are other albums I'd rather listen to) but I thought there wasn't a Mechanix. Isn't it named something different on KEA and then Megadeth had it as Mechanix?

hey, what do they say right before the solo in "master of puppets" I'm thinking razor burn, freezer burn, hit me, or bring the noise, but I think ill ask the pros...

Is it just me or does it seem like we have 5 new posters come in here everyday and post "omg metallica rowx my wurld".

[QUOTE=wicked_child]is it the rumored overload album?[/QUOTE]

better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.

it's just you :rolleyes: :lol:

to gecko, album it's "fix me," S&M it's "Fix me baby," and other various live concerts he might say other things, but mostly it's just fix me

[QUOTE=theguitarist02]better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.[/QUOTE]

Wow ive never heard anything like that in here before. Good call!

[QUOTE=theguitarist02]better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.[/QUOTE]

that was the most creative, original, and interesting post i have ever seen :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=theguitarist02]better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.[/QUOTE]

If you are expecting metallica to make something like mop or rtl, I think you should stop waiting for metallica's album. Metallica has evolved so much from those old days. I'll be happy whatever they release probably, as long as they stick to normal drums. Those drums in saint anger can get alittle annoying, but everything else is great imo. :thumb:

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]If you are expecting metallica to make something like mop or rtl, I think you should stop waiting for metallica's album. Metallica has evolved so much from those old days. I'll be happy whatever they release probably, as long as they stick to normal drums. Those drums in saint anger can get alittle annoying, but everything else is great imo. :thumb:[/QUOTE]123

The drums do get to me after awhile, but the riffs are incredible. I think the lyrics are pretty cool. The only thing I want out of this new album that I didn't get from St. Anger is solos.

I would be a lot happier if the songs were a little bit less streched out. They felt like 4 minute songs lasting 6 and a half minutes, if you follow me.

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I would be a lot happier if the songs were a little bit less streched out. They felt like 4 minute songs lasting 6 and a half minutes, if you follow me.[/QUOTE]

Well thats basically what it was. And i wish that they weren as repetitive.

That's my point. I don't want to hear the same riff over and over. The loss of dynamics (aka soft parts) really hurt it, though I'm not sure how they would fit in with the rest of St. Anger.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]obviously you're new, lol. welcome to the forums


i'm a little confused, so please don't flame me. I'm not really familiar with all of the tracks on Kill 'Em All (there are other albums I'd rather listen to) but I thought there wasn't a Mechanix. Isn't it named something different on KEA and then Megadeth had it as Mechanix?[/QUOTE]
You mean The Four Horsemen?

1. Hit The Lights
2. The Four Horsemen
3. Motorbreath
4. Jump in The Fire
5. Anesthesia (Pulling-Teeth)
6. Whiplash
7. Phantom Lord
8. No Remorse
9. Seek and Destroy
10. Metal Militia

I think that's track listing for Kill 'em All, maybe not though, it's just off the top of my head.

Edit: Gocaps! Where's my review of Battery :(

Yes, that is the track list, and yes, there WAS a Mechanix. It was Mechanix up until Dave left, then Metallica's version became the Four Horsemen with an added 3 minutes or so and the lyrics were totally changed. Dave's version in Megadeth was/is still his original version of Mechanix.