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TheDMV 02-19-2006 11:42 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Zack's good at being a really pissed off communist. That's about it.[/QUOTE]

I would say he's liberal, not communist.

Illmatic 02-19-2006 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]I would say he's liberal, not communist.[/QUOTE]

No he's a communist.

A communist who happens to play TRL, Woodstock 99, and the Godzilla soundtrack.

idk.

[QUOTE]I'm pretty liberal myself, but I think if Zack leaned any further left he'd running in circles on the floor like Curly from the Three Stooges.

Woop woopwoopwoop! Woop woopwoopwoopwoop!! Nyuh-uh-uh![/QUOTE]

A wise guy, eh?

Steerpike 02-19-2006 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]I would say he's liberal, not communist.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty liberal myself, but I think if Zack leaned any further left he'd running in circles on the floor like Curly from the Three Stooges.

Woop woopwoopwoop! Woop woopwoopwoopwoop!! Nyuh-uh-uh!

TheDMV 02-19-2006 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]No he's a communist.

A communist who happens to play TRL, Woodstock 99, and the Godzilla soundtrack.

idk.[/QUOTE]

So, he, like many (modern) communists, contadicts many of his own views.

Steerpike 02-19-2006 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]A wise guy, eh?[/QUOTE]

Coitanly!

/pokes Ray in the eyes
/runs face-first into a pie

Cain 02-20-2006 12:50 AM

"Country Grammar" was excellent, but only because I noticed that Nelly stole a few verses from that little song the kids sing in the movie "Big" with Tom Hanks and switched it around to have it be about pot. The association made the song take on new life in me.

Shattered_Future 02-20-2006 01:01 AM

I think the only 2 rap groups I listened to for more than 5 seconds without shutting it off in disgust were Haiku D'Etat and Public Enemy.

Riva 02-20-2006 01:33 AM

I like Jedi Mind Tricks, Haiku D'Etat, Nas, Public Enemy and a few others.

Josh 02-20-2006 05:23 AM

i just don't really listen to rap, other than RATM. if there's actually a point to whatever rap song happens to be on the radio, ie. the lyrics mean something or are just incredibly stupidly funny, then i'll maybe leave it on, but that's about it.

NP: Symphony X - Through the Looking Glass [Pts. I - III]

blueyxd 02-20-2006 05:50 AM

This is the kind of rap I'd expect metal heads to be more 'comfortable' with:
[url]http://brainwashed.com/vvm/downloads/vvmtest/offal13/offal13_b07_sro.mp3[/url]

It's pretty extreme, so be warned.

Josh 02-20-2006 07:54 AM

[QUOTE=blueyxd]This is the kind of rap I'd expect metal heads to be more 'comfortable' with:
[url]http://brainwashed.com/vvm/downloads/vvmtest/offal13/offal13_b07_sro.mp3[/url]

It's pretty extreme, so be warned.[/QUOTE]
extreme's one way to describe it, i guess. it was a bit bizarre IMO.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 08:09 AM

/Refrains from simply bashing both RATM and rap itself.

I did that once, and I can't be bothered with an argument where people could probably quite rightly call me closed minded.

I just don't like it. Each to their own.

How are you all today?

kurrpt 02-20-2006 08:11 AM

fair enough. I wouldnt really call RATM rap at ALL. If you did, they you'd have to say bands like POD are rap, and thats just lame.


Me? Alright i guess

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]fair enough. I wouldnt really call RATM rap at ALL. If you did, they you'd have to say bands like POD are rap, and thats just lame.


Me? Alright i guess[/QUOTE]
RATM kind of go in between two camps of music I really don't like.
Rap vocals and they are also part of that horrible Grungy sounding American Band group of the 90's that have Pantera, Machine head*, Black Label society and all those Precursor to nu-metal bands.

*I actually quite like Machine head, though

NP-Iron Maiden-Heaven can Wait

kurrpt 02-20-2006 08:17 AM

if my RAP you mean : no singing involved, only spoken words in a rhythmic pattern...


then i could agree

Theres a few tracks by Rage i liked. There seems to be less and less I listen to.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]if my RAP you mean : no singing involved, only spoken words in a rhythmic pattern...


then i could agree

Theres a few tracks by Rage i liked. There seems to be less and less I listen to.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's not a big thing, I just don't like rap music, and I certainly don't like the negative cultural aspect that goes with it.
Not that there aren't positives, I recognise the value of early Public enemy and other works. I think the cultural aspect of them is important, not the whole guns and bitches thing, you know?

And the political thing that Rage have, I don't like either.
The whole "pissed off at the government" thing is something I really despise

kurrpt 02-20-2006 08:29 AM

i have no problem with people being pissed off at the gov't. I would agree that basing a whole band about such a things is stupid, but they made some good money.


I dont think many people really knew where the band stood on most issues, so i would hardly call them polotical

Steerpike 02-20-2006 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Yeah, it's not a big thing, I just don't like rap music, and I certainly don't like the negative cultural aspect that goes with it.
Not that there aren't positives, I recognise the value of early Public enemy and other works. I think the cultural aspect of them is important, not the whole guns and bitches thing, you know?

And the political thing that Rage have, I don't like either.
The whole "pissed off at the government" thing is something I really despise[/QUOTE]

Rap wasn't always guns and hoes. Public Enemy era for example was very socially and politically aware.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Rap wasn't always guns and hoes. Public Enemy era for example was very socially and politically aware.[/QUOTE]
That's why I singled them out as an exception there :p

Steerpike 02-20-2006 08:56 AM

Just sayin...

Bartender 02-20-2006 09:05 AM

Total hell. I was watching a film - Stickmen - and was thoroughly enjoying it, and then the bastard fire alarm went off. Had to leave the building, and now I don't know how it finished. Have to find it on DVD, I suppose.

And I like rap, since I may as well say something on topic for once.

Steerpike 02-20-2006 09:19 AM

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPVZWd5KwE&search=michale%20graves[/url]

:lol:

I found the Daily Show clip with Michale Graves. The funny thing is, it seems he watches the Daily Show because he must have known what they do to their interviews. Just look at the way he acts on the camera and you can tell he's expecting Ed Helms to say something really goofy any second.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 10:01 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPVZWd5KwE&search=michale%20graves[/url]

:lol:

I found the Daily Show clip with Michale Graves. The funny thing is, it seems he watches the Daily Show because he must have known what they do to their interviews. Just look at the way he acts on the camera and you can tell he's expecting Ed Helms to say something really goofy any second.[/QUOTE]
Heh, the laughter track was irritating though.

I want to join a country club!

NP-Iced Earth-Travel in Stygian

Steerpike 02-20-2006 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Hehe, I have that clip saved.

"When asked whether punk is conservative or liberal, most American answered... it died in the '80s"

I was fully expecting the Ying Yang Twins to be Japanese lesbians, and I've never quite recovered from the truth.[/QUOTE]

Ed: Do punks cry?
Michale: Punks cry.

"Temporary skull face paint: not cool. Permanent arm paint: cool. After realizing what dicks those other guys were, I took Michale to a place where his politics would be accepted."

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Heh, the laughter track was irritating though.

I want to join a country club!

NP-Iced Earth-Travel in Stygian[/QUOTE]

I think that was the audience, actually.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 10:13 AM

I wish Nightwish would just let Marco sing...

NP-I wish I had an angel

Jev 02-20-2006 10:18 AM

Marco? I don't know much but is he the bassist who sings ocassionally? I don't think he should sing.

superpeer 02-20-2006 10:20 AM

It's a good thing that lady left, maybe now the fans will dress less ridiculously and paint fewer tears on their faces.

Lord Abortion 02-20-2006 10:23 AM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]It's a good thing that lady left, maybe now the fans will dress less ridiculously and paint fewer tears on their faces.[/QUOTE]
Hehe, it brings some hot waif-y girls to the shows though.

One super-hot one at Download was actually wearing a shawl :p

WP-Dream Theater- Anna Lee (great song)
NP-Darkest of the hillside thickets-The Innsmouth look

Jev 02-20-2006 10:24 AM

I think they should get a fat woman to sing. With a brilliant voice.

kurrpt 02-20-2006 10:31 AM

well the fat woman JUST sang for me..


this MAY be my last mx day


/perm banned


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