[QUOTE=Thor]Do I detect blasphemy in here? I think so! :thumb: Blackwater Park is much better, but I've really become partial to MAYH lately.

I can understand if you like it for its incredibly dark and gloomy atmosphere, but BWP just has flat out better songwriting.[/QUOTE]
BWP is a better album in terms of production, songwriting etc. It's the atmosphere that does MAYH for me.

@VomitStainedCretin: [I]Serenity Painted Death[/I] is one of my favourite songs of all time.

Im just wondering something. As I mentioned, Ive just bought Deliverence(₤5) and Still Life (₤6), but Blackwater Park was just a tad more expensive (₤7) which is why I chose not to get it. Should I have bought it instead of either of the albums I got?

Serenity Painted Death \M/! That pinch harmonic riff is awesome.

WHITE FACE, HAGGARD GRIN AND THE SERENITY PAINTED DEATH! :evil:

All of those albums are incredibly good, but personally I like [I]Blackwater Park[/I] more than [I]Deliverance[/I]. I think [I]Still Life[/I] and [I]Blackwater Park[/I] are the two favourite albums for most.

Deliverence was just going incredibly cheaply and Im a sucker for bargains. Plus, I liked the title track when Id previously heard it, although its not amazing the whole way through - it has parts to it which dont really work that well together.

i need to listen to Still life a lot more too really pass my judgement on it or any of the songs. i've listened enough to know its a good album, but i still haven't got a good picture of all the songs in my head yet. except The Moor.

For me [I]Still Life[/I] is their best, but I know alot of people like BWP more.

Still Life reigns supreme. BWP and Morningrise are its right/left hand men, though.

For me it's BWP reign supreme, with SL and MAYH as its right/left hand men.

Righty and Lefty are BWP and MAYH.

So I've just realised how much Wreath owns. I used to never like that song that much, but I've just listened to it now and it owns so much.

Good for you! :thumb:

I think I really like Still Life.

I still don't understand you haters, Ghost Reveries is awesome. In terms of being good metal, it sucks, but in being prog and having great songwriting it owns.

Metal Opeth >>>>>>>>>> Their prog stuff.

I completely disagree. Almost everything that I find interesting about them completely lies in their prog/genre crossing type stuff.

Pre-GR Opeth > GR Opeth

:)

I hate progressive when mixed with metal normally though. It ruins it for me. I highly prefer stuff like Orchid now.

I think their songwriting started getting good on MAYH, got significantly better on Still Life, stayed solid with better vocals on BWP and the songwriting is nearly perfect on GR.

Orchid and Morningrise are good but as a band they weren't very strong in my opinion. Very emotional and great content, but wasn't carried out as well as the new stuff, in other words amateur.

I'm starting to dislike any metal that isn't progressive. Besides even the old stuff of Opeth is progressive.

MAYH will always be my favorite.

GR was just terribly unintersting and not heavy at all. Orchid and Morningrise are great. Very intense and heavy, which means me = happy ;)

I thought GR was significantly more interesting than most of the other stuff they've done. It's definately a newer sound and there's so much going on. It's also pretty heavy straight from the start.

Well interesting to me =/= prog/expiramental stuff like GR. I can't grasp the heaviness though. There's more heaviness in St. Anger than GR :p

Oh for sure. St. Anger was a generally heavy album, just don't forget that heavy =/= good.

I imagine GR as a mixture of Deliverance and Damnation, what with the jazz influences and stuff they adopted on those albums.

Actually both of the times of I have seen Opeth live I would say that the songs they played off GR were the heaviest. I couldn’t believe how kick-*** the grand conjuration was live.

[QUOTE=Moses]Oh for sure. St. Anger was a generally heavy album, just don't forget that heavy =/= good.

I imagine GR as a mixture of Deliverance and Damnation, what with the jazz influences and stuff they adopted on those albums.[/QUOTE]
Metal must be heavy to be good (in my opinion of course), but yeah, heavy =/= good.

TGC is alot better and heavier live than on the album.

[QUOTE=Hope Eternal]TGC is alot better and heavier live than on the album.[/QUOTE]

QFT

I hate the recorded version, but I've seen it live twice, and it owned both times.

[QUOTE=Wotan]Metal must be heavy to be good (in my opinion of course), but yeah, heavy =/= good.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I like Iron Maiden because they're awesome, not because they're heavy.

[QUOTE=pate]QFT

I hate the recorded version, but I've seen it live twice, and it owned both times.[/QUOTE]
The atmosphere created live is awesome. The last time I saw them, they opened with TGC. Great opener.

[QUOTE=Moses]I don't know, I like Iron Maiden because they're awesome, not because they're heavy.[/QUOTE]
They are definitely heavy though.

Not to me really.

Anyway, in my opinion Orchid and Morningrise aren't really that heavy. They sound pretty thin to me for some reason, but I'm pretty sure they weren't going for the whole heavy thing.