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MRDuCran 04-04-2006 06:09 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]@MRDuCran: Have you checked out the tab to the solo of "Passage to the fourth world"? Especially the first run by Roope! I can't imagine you can play it this way on such a speed! the finger stretching, at the end of the first run by Roope, when you reach the high e-string, is incredible ...
you're the better guitar player, so i would like to know if its "possible" or if the tab is just false.[/QUOTE]

It's definately hard, I mean the tab to me looks playable during that first ascending run. It's just bits where there's position shifts all on one string but doesn't really make sense in any pattern is what confuses me. I guess it's just down to how you'd rather play it if you're learning it. Just sit there with your guitar and the tab and go through it note by note, finding all the possible positions for each note and just keep the one you like best, I'm sure that'll give you the best results.

blue3 04-05-2006 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=Treebeard]When was this issue of Guitar World released? Who is on the cover? The last one I got had Gilmour on the cover and I saw no Laiho article.[/QUOTE]The issue before that, with Joe Satriani on the cover.

repcak 04-05-2006 01:14 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]It's definately hard, I mean the tab to me looks playable during that first ascending run. It's just bits where there's position shifts all on one string but doesn't really make sense in any pattern is what confuses me. I guess it's just down to how you'd rather play it if you're learning it. Just sit there with your guitar and the tab and go through it note by note, finding all the possible positions for each note and just keep the one you like best, I'm sure that'll give you the best results.[/QUOTE]
so i should try to re-write the part with all the position shifts on one string, but play the same notes?

i tried it yesterday and i haven't found a better way to play the last two bars

PECOAE 04-05-2006 01:25 AM

You know what a good song is?

By COB?

Oops I did it again!

I'm Charming 04-05-2006 01:45 AM

[QUOTE=PECOAE]You know what a good song is?

By COB?

Oops I did it again![/QUOTE]


Yeah. All their songs besides Punch Me I Bleed.

GTFO.

Lucr3tia 04-05-2006 01:54 AM

Are You Dead Yet was a huge disappointment to me. I didn't listen to it until a week ago. I would honsetly just categorize it as metalcore or something along the lines of that.

I'm Charming 04-05-2006 02:23 AM

[QUOTE=Lucr3tia]Are You Dead Yet was a huge disappointment to me. I didn't listen to it until a week ago. I would honsetly just categorize it as metalcore or something along the lines of that.[/QUOTE]


Metalcore? Are you f[size=2]uc[/size]king stupid?

Do you know what "metalcore" even is?

Metalcore is, Converge, As I Lay Dying and Atreyu for some examples.

It's a really good album.

CoB has been and always will be power metal with harsh vocals.

Please huff raid and die.

Apocalyptic Raids 04-05-2006 02:28 AM

The new album is hardly Power Metal though.

Lartsa 04-05-2006 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]The new album is hardly Power Metal though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I can see it as a general metal release.

The Sandman 04-05-2006 04:56 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]can you upload it? scan it and upload it somewhere? would be great:thumb:[/QUOTE]
I second this but it seems unlikely that anyone will...

Maybe I'll have to fork out $10 and get it myself.

Sleepy 04-05-2006 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Metalcore? Are you f[size=2]uc[/size]king stupid?

Do you know what "metalcore" even is?

Metalcore is, Converge, As I Lay Dying and Atreyu for some examples.

It's a really good album.

[b]CoB has been and always will be power metal with harsh vocals.

Please huff raid and die.[/b][/QUOTE]

I thought Atreyu was screamo? :confused: Meh, I don't listen to them anyway. Whatever...

I know that you are an absolutely ginormously massive Bodomite, Charming, but this thread isn't meant to be a CoB circle jerk. All opinions are welcome, savvy and n00bish, well-informed and misinformed, pro-CoB or anti-CoB, so long as they are presented in a calm and mature manner.

He doesn't have to huff raid and die just because he doesn't like Bodom, or because he's under the impression that AYDY is metalcore. That's not saying you can't prove him wrong, just don't break out the nubhammer quite yet, and let the guy speak without smashing him into the ground right after he finishes a sentence.

[quote=Apocalyptic Raids]The new album is hardly Power Metal though.[/quote]

I strongly agree (not a fan of AYDY).

kurrpt 04-05-2006 07:07 AM

finally got to listen to those 2 albums guys. Friggin better than I anticipated :thumb:

Sleepy 04-05-2006 07:41 AM

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]finally got to listen to those 2 albums guys. Friggin better than I anticipated :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Great! I'm glad you liked them :)

Invicta_Veritas 04-05-2006 07:47 AM

What kind of crack does a person have to be on to think Atreyu is metalcore?

MRDuCran 04-05-2006 08:01 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]so i should try to re-write the part with all the position shifts on one string, but play the same notes?

i tried it yesterday and i haven't found a better way to play the last two bars[/QUOTE]

Re-write what ever parts you feel are hard to play, of course everyone is different so the way Laiho plays will differ to Latvala etc and they will both differ to you and me, I tryed the first 2 bars yesterday quickly and didn't really come up with anything.

kurrpt 04-05-2006 08:08 AM

hey guys...


i posted some Steve Smyth videos + tab in the nevermore thread if you're insterested :thumb:

repcak 04-05-2006 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Re-write what ever parts you feel are hard to play, of course everyone is different so the way Laiho plays will differ to Latvala etc and they will both differ to you and me, I tryed the first 2 bars yesterday quickly and didn't really come up with anything.[/QUOTE]
the first two bars aren't hard, the end of the 3rd and the 4th bars are difficult because of the finger stretching, and i can't imagine how to play it different because its on the last string... i tried to come up with something, but i failed; i only changed the A# from the 8th e-string to the 13th B-string in the end of the 3rd bar. (well, i have to try it today once more -> the only possible thing will be to try it with string skipping)

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kurrpt 04-05-2006 11:20 AM

wow, that stretch is hard for you :eek:



id hate to see what happens when you'd try some nevermore solos. My hands are small as hell, and i do it on my 27" baritone 7 string.


its a stretch between 13-20, with insane string skipping too. If you want some hints on getting your stretches better, id be more than happy to help

repcak 04-05-2006 11:42 AM

äh... well, the stretching won't be difficult when playing it slow... but i can't imagine to play it at 200bpm, the speed it should be.

kurrpt 04-05-2006 11:47 AM

in all honestly man....


once you have a stretch down, theres really no difference between speeds what so ever. Is a matter of making a stretch that seems BIG, comfortable. Im making it seem easy, but when you think about it, thats all you are doing. Getting you hands aclimated to something that seems foreign at first

repcak 04-05-2006 11:55 AM

ok, i will try it ;)

kurrpt 04-05-2006 11:58 AM

my baritone has been a god send for me in that department. Going back to PRS is ridiculous. That 2 inches makes a huge difference


instead of setting your hand up like 1234 ( like you are doing chromatics) set it up in a postion like 1 34 6

its really weird at first, but what you want to focus on is comfort, or lack of tension. You dont want to strain for that stretch. Obviously, the more you perform the stretch, the easier it will be

gmoneyguy 04-05-2006 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]finally got to listen to those 2 albums guys. Friggin better than I anticipated :thumb:[/QUOTE]
What two albums?

kurrpt 04-05-2006 12:15 PM

follow the reapers, and honestly, ill have to check to see the name of the other. Im getting flooded with new music lately :lol:

gmoneyguy 04-05-2006 12:16 PM

FTR is a good album, hopefull the other was Hatebreeder.

kurrpt 04-05-2006 12:16 PM

something wild


edit : Hatebreeder is the first album I got. Still my favorite by far

repcak 04-05-2006 12:20 PM

i'm glad you like them both :thumb:

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]my baritone has been a god send for me in that department. Going back to PRS is ridiculous. That 2 inches makes a huge difference


instead of setting your hand up like 1234 ( like you are doing chromatics) set it up in a postion like 1 34 6

its really weird at first, but what you want to focus on is comfort, or lack of tension. You dont want to strain for that stretch. Obviously, the more you perform the stretch, the easier it will be[/QUOTE]
to be serious i started with finger stretching exercises one week ago... but i still have to train them more! some day i will be able to stretch everything :D

kurrpt 04-05-2006 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]i'm glad you like them both :thumb:


to be serious i started with finger stretching exercises one week ago... but i still have to train them more! some day i will be able to stretch everything :D[/QUOTE]



thats the PERFECT attitude man.


i used to think that my little hands were holding me back, but i learned that was just a lame excuse to make me feel better. Most times, it just takes that initial step.

MRDuCran 04-05-2006 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]the first two bars aren't hard, the end of the 3rd and the 4th bars are difficult because of the finger stretching, and i can't imagine how to play it different because its on the last string... i tried to come up with something, but i failed; i only changed the A# from the 8th e-string to the 13th B-string in the end of the 3rd bar. (well, i have to try it today once more -> the only possible thing will be to try it with string skipping)

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I doubt that is a stretch, there's gotta be some position shifts in there somewhere, while assuming the notes are correct. I'll see if I can come up with something.

kurrpt 04-05-2006 12:40 PM

yea, i would just shift positions at the 11th fret if i were playing that


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