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Did you delete your post or something?
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I deleted my post saying you should get abbey road because i didn't realise you had it
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[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]get Please please me, and Magical Mystery Tour next.
Then the white ablumn, Let it be or Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band[/QUOTE] Every other Beatles album except "Beatles For Sale">Please Please Me |
Right now the only Beatles CD ihave is there greatest hist. It is the only CD of mine (well, it and "cream of clappton") that i can listen to in the car with my mum
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I don't think John Lennon would've been outspoken either way about rap.
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Lennon would have probably said something along the lines of "If they just 'rapped' about peace, there will be peace."
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Neil Young says that rap is just like rock n' roll in spirit, and it will be no matter what name you put on it, it is still raw and edgy. I think Neil and Lennon have similar veiwpoints on alot of things, so maybe he would say something along those lines
you do realise we are posing a seireis of WWLD (what whould lennon do) questions :lol: |
^123. But you have to admit, Please Please Me is worthwhile just for Twist and Shout. I absolutly love that song! :lol:
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Abbey Road is amazing.
Let It Be...Naked was disappointing. I'm getting Sgt. Pepper's maybe tomorrow. |
that album is awesome.
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[QUOTE=Canadian_Guy]Abbey Road is amazing.
Let It Be...Naked was disappointing. I'm getting Sgt. Pepper's maybe tomorrow.[/QUOTE] i thought let it be....naked was a good album. I mean, it was alot better than the original Let it be. In my opinion, let it be is very underrated. |
[QUOTE=GeorgeHarrison]i thought let it be....naked was a good album. I mean, it was alot better than the original Let it be. In my opinion, let it be is very underrated.[/QUOTE]
i agree with this man |
Naked was certainly good it improved by making Let it be, The long and winding road, and Across the universe the great songs they were before Phil Spector screwed them all up. But the problem with Naked is that it;s missing what the true Let It Be was supposed to be. They took off Maggie Mae and Dig It two great impromptu kind of songs and this was what Let It Be was supposed to be about. So Let It Be....Naked is good but it could have been done better.
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Which is theier best Pre-Rubber Soul Album?
I might be compelled to say "Help!" |
[QUOTE=Med57]You'd recommend [I]Please Please Me[/I] over The White Album and Sergeant Peppers? Personally I think [I]Please Please Me[/I] is a very weak album by their standards, and easily one of their most dispensable, so I'd rate[I]Magical Mystery Tour[/I], [I]The White Album[/I] and [I]Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band[/I] as far better than it, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
No, just for the contrast. |
[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Which is theier best Pre-Rubber Soul Album?
I might be compelled to say "Help!"[/QUOTE] I think it would have to be "Beatles for sale" |
Hello, just found this site and thought I'd join. So hello to all.
I think I'm a bit older than some posting here and perhaps I can be of some help with a little insight from one who's teenage and band experience was closer to the Beatle's era. I'm not trying to be preachy or step on anyone's toes, so feel free to beat me up if I over-step any bounds. In reading the posts here, I can give a few answers to some some of the topics and questions that have come up over the course of this thread. To keep it short and simple, I'll post a few times on the subjects so my replies won't turn into a small book. :) |
[QUOTE=bcf717]Hello, just found this site and thought I'd join. So hello to all.
I think I'm a bit older than some posting here and perhaps I can be of some help with a little insight from one who's teenage and band experience was closer to the Beatle's era. I'm not trying to be preachy or step on anyone's toes, so feel free to beat me up if I over-step any bounds. In reading the posts here, I can give a few answers to some some of the topics and questions that have come up over the course of this thread. To keep it short and simple, I'll post a few times on the subjects so my replies won't turn into a small book. :)[/QUOTE] It's okay, we like long replies. If you can give us answers, that's great. Just what we need, another intelligent poster on this forum, we have to less of them.... Welcome anyway. So, I'm listening to Paul McCartney's Back in the US tour cd. I KNOW it's not the Beatles, but it's Paul, so it counts. I'm amazed. I'm not even done with the cd, and I'm amazed. Paul sounds great, the band sounds great, everything about this CD is good. |
[QUOTE=MalcolmYoungRock]It's okay, we like long replies. If you can give us answers, that's great. Just what we need, another intelligent poster on this forum, we have to less of them.... Welcome anyway.
So, I'm listening to Paul McCartney's Back in the US tour cd. I KNOW it's not the Beatles, but it's Paul, so it counts. I'm amazed. I'm not even done with the cd, and I'm amazed. Paul sounds great, the band sounds great, everything about this CD is good.[/QUOTE] Is there anything new on it, or is it Beatles/Wings stuff? |
[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Is there anything new on it, or is it Beatles/Wings stuff?[/QUOTE]
This CD came out a while ago, like 2002, so it's mainly Beatles and Wings songs. Na- na- na na nananana nananana hey jude NP: Obvious ^ Edit: It sounds really good too |
Alright then, I think we all know the song lists were different on the British and American albums up until Sgt. Parlophone/EMI was the original record company in England. Each album had 14 songs. The American company, Capitol, would only release 11 songs per album. The 'leftovers' would later be made into totally unique American albums like 'The Early Beatles,' and 'Yesterday and Today.' Speaking of 'Y and T' -- the famous 'Butcher cover' was partly a protest of the American butchering of their album playlists...... Leave it to us American's to get figure out how to get more bang for our buck, eh?
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[QUOTE=bcf717]Alright then, I think we all know the song lists were different on the British and American albums up until Sgt. Parlophone/EMI was the original record company in England. Each album had 14 songs. The American company, Capitol, would only release 11 songs per album. The 'leftovers' would later be made into totally unique American albums like 'The Early Beatles,' and 'Yesterday and Today.' Speaking of 'Y and T' -- the famous 'Butcher cover' was partly a protest of the American butchering of their album playlists...... Leave it to us American's to get figure out how to get more bang for our buck, eh?[/QUOTE]
Wow, I didn't know that, now I know why all of my albums say [UK] on the computer Do you know why the vinyl Hey Jude album never made it to CD? |
Sgt Peppers was their first to be issued in America and Great Britain without being cut. It was the first album to have a continuity in storytelling. It was their first victory in having control of the order of the songs in an album, but it was short-lived. The follow-up, Magical Mystery Tour, was released on Parlophone as two 7-inch records. The records were the size of 45's but the speed was played at 33 and 1/3 like EP's. Only the songs from the 'TV Special' like the title song, 'Blue Jay Wray', 'Flying', 'Your Mother Should Know', 'I Am the Walrus' etc, were on it. It even included the picture/story book. When Capitol got it, it was released in the form most of us are familiar with -- a single EP with more songs. The first side were the songs from the original British release, and the second side was filled with the British singles. Many songs like 'Hello Goodbye' were composed and recorded during the same time or before Sgt Pepper. Parlophone often released what we would call '45's' that had 4 songs total -- 2 on each side. It was common for the British market. The Beatles wanted the MMT album in that format for the sake of innovation. The American version limited their album vision to the first side and followed the second side with a mish-mash of singles that had nothing to do with the concept of the album. It was after that they established Apple Records, and the final Beatles' albums were kept consistent in all continents.
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The 'Hey Jude' album was a Beatle authorized 'mish-mash' of released singles and cuts that didn't make the previous albums. These songs, as well as ones appearing in 'Let it Be' and 'Abbey Road' were all composed and recorded virtually around the same time. This was the time of the break-up and the Beatles had enough material to do another 'White Album' but decided to split the material to cover the album number commitments under contract. Even though the Beatles owned Apple, Apple was still committed to EMI/Capital for distribution and the contracts required x amount of albums by a certain date etc, etc, to fulfill obligations. The 'Hey Jude' was an effort to release the material that didn't fit in AR or LIB.
The songs in 'Hey Jude' have been released on CD in compilations such as 'Past Masters' and other multi disc retrospect projects. CD release depends on sales and interest and are still in control of the big companies like EMI. CD release has been hap-hazard at best. The main albums have been re-mastered for CD in the past but I think the HJ was considered a lesser album. Back in 1966, around Christmas time, and but before the release of Sgt Pepper, Parlophone/EMI put out an album called 'The Beatles; A collection of Beatles Oldies.' It was a legitimate Beatles album only released in Britain but contained songs from past albums and some singles that had not appeared on albums. I don't think that has ever been re-released as a CD either. Buck up, now Capital is re-releasing the CD versions of the American albums, complete with butchered playlists and all. Perhaps the HJ album isn't far behind. |
Wow...nice first few post bcf. I didnt know alot of that stuff.
Keep it up :thumb: |
[QUOTE=MalcolmYoungRock]
So, I'm listening to Paul McCartney's Back in the US tour cd. I KNOW it's not the Beatles, but it's Paul, so it counts. I'm amazed. I'm not even done with the cd, and I'm amazed. Paul sounds great, the band sounds great, everything about this CD is good.[/QUOTE] Get the DvD, i own it AND LOVE IT! Ive probably watched it over 50 times. His band is amazing, and even though hes old, he still knows how to rock. |
Ok, one more.... I read a past post here on 'Revolution 9' from the 'White Album.' While I feel it's weirdness ranks a 10, it is no more than I would expect from Lennon pushing the envelope on the cutting edge of the times. He had discovered the fun of backwards recording way back when he put the 'Rain' session tapes in backward while being drunk (so he said). He also later discovered primal scream therapy and later incorporated that into an entire album during his solo career. But, I digress.
Listen to 'Revolution 9' backwards. Back in my band playing days, it was easy as we would use the old reel to reel units. It was simple to record a song and play it backwards at the proper speed back then (early 70's) on tape. It's kinda hard to do it nowadays. Two steps forwards, one step back, I suppose. Anyhow, let me set the stage. After Sgt Peppers, interest in the Beatles began to wane a little. The 'Penny Lane' single didn't do as well as hoped, and the MMT TV show was laughed at by critics back in their home country. The Beatles were still a strong sale, but even with the release of the 'White Album,' they weren't quite up to the heights they enjoyed with Sgt Pepper. Shortly after the release of the 'White Album' someone anonymously called up a radio station ( I can't remember which one, but it was a big market station perhaps in Chicago?) and left the messageto listen to Rev 9 backwards and was it true that Paul was really dead. ....more... |
Just to let people know, I won't be posting in this forum for about a week. Spring break and all. Cheers.
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Now, I'm sure Lennon had something to do with it, I mean, who else? Most likely, he was exercising his sense of humor and added a few 'death clues' in the tracks for his own enjoyment. Most likely, someone in corporate marketing 'leaked' the information to boost sales. Regardless it was a beautiful hoax. For the three or four backward clues purposely added, fans were 'finding' 100's of death clues (mostly imagined) all over the albums even back to before Sgt Pepper. Pure genius! I take my hat off to that.
Now, the story went Paul was killed in a car, hence the lines from 'A Day in the Life.' If you listen to Rev 9 forwards, you hear a lot of gibberish and quotes from poetry and such. Plus the fading in and out of a Gregorian Chant-like repetition of 'Number Ni-ne.' Backwards, number nine becomes 'Turn me on, deadman.' Listen to the whole thing backwards and you hear; large crowd talking and laughing -- could be a premire or something, large street gathering type of deal. Then street noises and traffic. Then horns beeping -- skids, crash noises, excited crowd, screaming. Then the sound of fire. Someone screaming 'Let me out! Let me out!. More excited noise and traffic. And in and out through the whole thing, that repeat of 'Turn me on, deadman.' Talk about creeping ya out. It'll send the shivers up yer timbers. Sheer genius!! The only other legit clue planted was on the 'White Album' as well, in between 'I'm so Tired' and 'Blackbird.' As tired fades out you can hear some mumbling before 'Blackbird' starts. Play it backward and you hear 'Paul is a deadman, miss him, miss him, miss him. The hoax had taken a life of it's own with fans finding the most obscure clues in just about every picture and song lyric imaginable. I'm sure this delighted John to no end. And I wouldn't be surprised if they all just didn't play along for the 'Abbey Road' cover to create that classic 'Jesus followed by the undertaker, followed by the gravedigger, finally followed by barefoot victim Paul walking out of step and wearing the outdated suit. Well, I must sign off for a while. Thanks for the welcome and I'll try and check back on you guys later. Cherio. :) |
[QUOTE=bcf717]
Now, the story went Paul was killed in a car, hence the lines from 'A Day in the Life.' If you listen to Rev 9 forwards, you hear a lot of gibberish and quotes from poetry and such. Plus the fading in and out of a Gregorian Chant-like repetition of 'Number Ni-ne.' Backwards, number nine becomes 'Turn me on, deadman.' Listen to the whole thing backwards and you hear; large crowd talking and laughing -- could be a premire or something, large street gathering type of deal. Then street noises and traffic. Then horns beeping -- skids, crash noises, excited crowd, screaming. Then the sound of fire. Someone screaming 'Let me out! Let me out!. More excited noise and traffic. And in and out through the whole thing, that repeat of 'Turn me on, deadman.' Talk about creeping ya out. It'll send the shivers up yer timbers. Sheer genius!![/QUOTE] Wow. I never knew that. That's kind of cool and creepy. I did the turn me on, deadman thing on my computer. [quote=same guy] The hoax had taken a life of it's own with fans finding the most obscure clues in just about every picture and song lyric imaginable. I'm sure this delighted John to no end. And I wouldn't be surprised if they all just didn't play along for the 'Abbey Road' cover to create that classic 'Jesus followed by the undertaker, followed by the gravedigger, finally followed by barefoot victim Paul walking out of step and wearing the outdated suit. [/QUOTE] I thought John was the preacher (Father McKenzie, anyone?), Ringo was the pallbearer, Paul was the dead man, and George was the gravedigger (wearing all denim). There's also one about if you take the Magical Mystery Tour cover and hold it up to a mirror, you can see a phone number where the word BEATLES is. Supposably, if you call it a voice picks up and says "You're getting closer" and abruptly hangs up. Another "Paul is Dead" hoax, if you listen REALLY closely to the end of Strawberry Fields Forever, you can hear John shout "I BUURRIIIED PAAAUL" |
[QUOTE=bcf717] ..........Plus the fading in and out of a Gregorian Chant-like repetition of 'Number Ni-ne.' Backwards, number nine becomes 'Turn me on, deadman.' ......[/QUOTE]
The Number Nine chant is just a loop of the sound engineer in the recording studio saying "number nine" (watch the beatles anthology, george martin says that there when explaining Revolution 9 ) is Revolution 1 about Che's revolution in Cuba or is it just a general song about Revolutions? |
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There's also one about if you take the Magical Mystery Tour cover and hold it up to a mirror, you can see a phone number where the word BEATLES is. Supposably, if you call it a voice picks up and says "You're getting closer" and abruptly hangs up. [/QUOTE] I'll bet it says "Hello? Hello? Is this for Suzie? "SUUUUZZZZZIIIIIIEEEEEE!! PHOONNNEEEE!!! Oh? You're not calling for Suzie? Who is this again? I think you have the wrong number..." |
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is Revolution 1 about Che's revolution in Cuba or is it just a general song about Revolutions?[/QUOTE] From what I've heard it was about how protests made by hippies in the 60's were becoming extremely violent, which Lennon was not happy about. Thats why in the song he tells them to count him out because he didn't want to be a part of the violence |
Wow. Great info. I knew pretty much everything you said anyway (read a lot of books in middle school on le beatles) but I'm glad to know someone's spending less time on their job and more time on the beatles :lol:
I'm probably one of the older ones here, I'm 18. |
16 here
haha Seafroggys is an old man |
[QUOTE=Seafroggys]^123. But you have to admit, Please Please Me is worthwhile just for Twist and Shout. I absolutly love that song! :lol:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's just a good fun pop song :) |
whats the meaning behind Because
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Catorce here :(
Me and JPJ are the youngest regulars in the CR thread. |
[QUOTE=TerryThorne]whats the meaning behind Because[/QUOTE]
Really isn't a meaning I don't think. But the group shows the greatest layering of vocals on the song. George, Paul, and John sung it once, and layered it twice. So you're really hearing nine voices. |
Hello. I'll try to answer some questions as best I can. Remember, I'm not an expert. I grew up back then -- in 1969 I was 14, the Beatles were breaking up, man landed on the moon, and Nixon had become the president of the US. Over the years, I've acquired quite a bit of trivia information. You wouldn't want to play me in Trivia Pursuit....:)
Revolution 1 on the White Album is the slowed down version of the single titled, Revolution. I don't think it has anything to specifically to Cuba, as if anything, it mentions Mao Tse Tung, the then Communist leader (dictator) of China. I think if you listen to the lyrics, it's more of a protest song about over-use of the concept of revolution. 'You say you want a revolution,.. well--ell you know....' During the late sixties, revolution became the hip cliché. Revolution this and revolution that, but hey, you know, I've got other stuff to worry about. The song was more of a parody of people trying to be cool and spouting hip revolutionary conversation at their country clubs while sipping their cocktails and then going back to work at their offices and becoming one with the status-quo of Capitalism. You'll see a common theme like this in a lot of Lennon's work. Lennon was non-violent, but advocated social change. He prefered not just lip service, but actually working to achieve the goal. |
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