I never heard any Tool songs, just wondering if anyone can recommend a gd 2 or 3 songs for me to download that woudl get me into them?!?!?!?!?

Ahem *kazaa*

Or torrents...then scam a free copy off cool edit pro/adobe audition (same thing, different names), cubase or sonor 3...they are all i can think of right now.

I can kinda play aenima, only casually learning the coolest parts (slide solo...intro). If i'm bored i may grace you all with a recording...complete with my oh so crisp zoom tone (/there is sarcasm there, it might not have come out though!)

[QUOTE=Yppolitia]I never heard any Tool songs, just wondering if anyone can recommend a gd 2 or 3 songs for me to download that woudl get me into them?!?!?!?!?[/QUOTE]

Aenima, Parabola, Schism

you just learned the intro on guitar, i just nailed undertow (song not whole cd ) the way through. also finally got down the patient

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]you just learned the intro on guitar, i just nailed undertow (song not whole cd ) the way through. also finally got down the patient[/QUOTE]

Its been a theme for the last few pages that I could not get that intro. But my current list of tool songs I can play

Schisim
The patient
Jerk Off
Part Of Me
4 Degrees (60% learned)
Stinkfist

Just tone sucks on most of them (marshall MG :angry: ) and I improv too much

schism is easy, what tab do you use for the patient, i found like 4 different ones, and i play parts from the ones i think is close, part of me is real easy i got that one too. I think pu**** is one of the harder ones. I want to learn 4 degrees as well, couldnt find good tab for it though. I have some of lateralus. I want to learn the grudge, but i cant reproduce my favorite part of the song. I have almost all of triad down, but i dont have a hollowed out epilady, so its impossible to "cover" thats madd word though rep+++

most of the tabs on tooltabs.net are correct. I often use guitar pro files or powertabs to help me with rhythm. I haven't learnt a whole tool song yet, because i loathe drop tunings, but i've started messing round witha few bits and will probably play some in future.

Most of the harder Tool songs are the ones where Justin is leading, and its hard to tell guitar from bass in places (The Grudge), and then of course, the mad effects ones (triad) require some serious creativenes or a £3000 budget for FX pedals.

There are no complete correct tabs for Tool songs, most you need to piece together preferences, but the ones on mx are a good start. Here are a few places I have used

[URL=http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/search.php3?ss=tool&location=bands]Not bad tabs, good templates[/URL]

[URL=http://www.tooltabs.net/]The best one, but currently down[/URL]

[URL=http://www.mxtabs.net/tab_versions.php?path=Guitar,t,1443,Tool,The+Patient,103965]best tab for the patient I have found[/URL]

And to clearvison

Unless you have a floyd rose, its not much of a drop tuning, jus tthe top E to D, so it can be done quickly. it also trains your ear to learn what an E and a D sounds like. Plus a few can be done using E tuning (the cover of 'you lied' is a good example)

see i played that version of the patient for a while then i found one i thought was more accurate, let me find it (i actually learned both, i like that song that much)

check this out, tell me what you think

[url]http://www.tooltabs.net/tabs/tool/guitar/lateralus/the_patient.htm[/url]

its close, i found another one as well, the part where maynard says "i must keep reminding myself of this" over and over, where adam does those riffs with a bit of pinch harmonics in it, he uses the 5 and 7 frets on the d and g string. I want to go to a show, take a camcorder, zoom in on adam's fingers the whole time, and bootleg the shiznit outta it

That was the first i used, but this part

e-------------------------------------------------------------
b-------------------------------------------------------------
g-------------------------------------------------------------
d-----10---------------10---------10---------------10---------
a--12----10-12~--10-12----10-12~-----10-12~--10-12----10-12~--
d-------------------------------------------------------------

I play it in the open postion

G ---2---5---0---2 etc....

just personal preference. And the harmonic part I play using the Natural harmonics on the 7th fret

And that part you refer to (I refer to it as the 'solo' part, is personal preference again. I play it like this

e--------------------------------------
b--------------------------------------
g-----------4--5--4-------4--------
d-------2--------------2------2--5
a----0-------------------------------
d--------------------------------------

then shift up an octave, and kick in the wah on the 5th time

what kinda guitar do you use to cover tool, i just use my sg custom (danny actually uses an sg on softer tracks) i was gonna get his silverburst (prolly a '79) but i fell in love with a PRS instead

for part of me, for the intro, do you just bar the 2nd and 10th fretts , or do you play 355. I saw both. I like the 355 power chord better myself

with the 5 7 from the patient i was talking about, when it switches like from the riff you posted to the next one, the dude showed him sliding from the 7th to the 8th fret. I thought it sounded dead on. Plus the tab i had, you know the part with a lot of weird palm mutes at the end, those sounded dead on too, let me see if i can find that tab for ya

Yeah i can drop down, i just don't like it much...I have a yamaha pacifica 012...a zoom 606 effects board thingy and a crappy 10watt aria amp :upset:

Im stuck with a Squire showmaster at the moment (not all great guitarists have big budgets :upset: ).

And err, danny doesnt play guitar, to corect your typo :p

As for part of me I do the 2nd and 1oth fret bar, it just feels more natural for me to slide around the neck, and I can also manipluate the 9th fret nat harmonics to give it a nice ring when the string muting parts are played.

Any more questions, feel free to ask me at this address

modestmoogle@gmail. com, as this thread is annoying when it gets crowded with conversations

whoops duh that adam duh, i had too many thoughts buzzing around. will do

Another thing on toolband.com is when you go to the main page, with the news, there is the T.V. in the corner, and you can press he buttons for links and a live pic. Not sure if it's a secret or not.

does any one know what danny uses on pu**** like the electronic drum that he uses?

ernst gan op msn

I've heard alot about tool, but I cant say I've heard any of their songs. Can anybody reccomend some good songs to me?

Also, I'm new and don't know how to quote, can anybody tell me?

[QUOTE=StuckPunk]Also, I'm new and don't know how to quote, can anybody tell me?[/QUOTE]

Like this.







j/k, click reply under the post you want to quote. As for songs? Enema (sp?) is a good one.

[QUOTE=StuckPunk]I've heard alot about tool, but I cant say I've heard any of their songs. Can anybody reccomend some good songs to me?

Also, I'm new and don't know how to quote, can anybody tell me?[/QUOTE]

Click reply on the message you want to quote. Or click on speech bubble after highlighting text when replying.

Pushi[COLOR=White]t[/COLOR]
Aenima
Eulogy
Lateralus
Sober

Try those for a start

well, i love just about everything, POPULAR ones are lateralus, schism (both off new CD) from ænema : ænima, 46 & 2 off undertow : prison sex (awesome video too), im a huge fan of the song undertow, swamp song is good. Off of opiate : part of me (repetitive but great) sweat, if you see the live concert disk (salival) push it live is dope

whats up ADAM JONES IS GOD much love for ya!!!

H. also. Favorite bassline right there.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]

Pushi[COLOR=White]t[/COLOR]
Aenima
Eulogy
Lateralus
Sober

Try those for a start[/QUOTE]

awesome...thanks

yea, if i played bass, id prolly be a lot more into that song, i like the part where hes like "under these tears, the wall came down" i love that part, and the riffs shortly after

for some reason, i never, ever liked sober, and im a huge tool fan. I think msg to harry manback (live version) puts it to shame, but im weird

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]for some reason, i never, ever liked sober, and im a huge tool fan. I think msg to harry manback (live version) puts it to shame, but im weird[/QUOTE]

tis not a live version, its just the bit that was edited out originally.
(and try post editing in this thread if you have more to add, multiple posts take ages to read through, unlike on big post ) :thumb:

Yeah.. there is only one version of Message to Harry Manback I. There's a Message to Harry Manback II, but thats on Salival, not Ænima. A song that I would recommend is Reflection. Good song.

[QUOTE=Tool666]Yeah.. there is only one version of Message to Harry Manback I. There's a Message to Harry Manback II, but thats on Salival, not Ænima. A song that I would recommend is Reflection. Good song.[/QUOTE]


i'm glad somebody else mentioned reflection, i thought i was the only person who liked it

[QUOTE=metally_mental]ok [FONT=Arial Black]"Forty-six and Two".[/FONT]
great song but wtf does it mean??

i read somewhere that its about humans evolving, leaving our primal ways behind... "stepping through the shadow, coming out the other side". before analysing id like to say that maynard is a big fan of the psychoanalyst, Carl Jung. His theory of the "shadow" is in this song. Jung argued that the shadow is our alter ego.. everything we hate about ourselves, formed into this despicable dark counterpart of our psyche, that we resent in ourselves.

[FONT=Arial Black]"shadows shedding skin, ive been pickin scabs again.
ive been digging through my old muscles, looking for a clue."[/FONT]

Maynard is saying he is looking through himself, looking at his past and how he has changed, and looking at everything he dislikes in himself, and is now ready to move on. he is saying his shadow is shedding things he used to hate about himself, because he is past all that now and more mature.

[FONT=Arial Black]"ive been crawlin on my belly, clearing out what could have been.
ive been wallowing in my own confused and, insecure delusions"[/FONT]

talking about the past still, realising how stupid he used to be eg. maynard in the army?? lol. clearing out means forgetting old dreams of a conformed lifestyle.

[FONT=Arial Black]"For a piece to cross me over, or a word to guide me in.
I wanna feel the changes coming down.
I wanna know what I've been hiding in, my shadow."[/FONT]

for a piece, i think could mean just a piece of inspiration, be it music, art anything. anything to inspire him to take another look at himself, and the world around him. he is saying he is ready to feel the changes, and ready to face everything he has resented and hidden away in his alter ego, his shadow.

now about the forty-six and two bit. apparently, there used to be this guy who believed that there were three different kinds of humans, with different chromosomes. the aboriginals of australia supposedly has less than us, 36 or something. this being determined by their lifestyle and beliefs. the other group i forget now, but us has 42 and 2 i think*. not important anyway because all humans have the same chromosomes (except for people with down syndrome who are either missing one or have an extra one, i forget now.) but, supposedly we were supposed to evolve, and gain more chromosomes, presenting us with new abilities as humans. a nice theory, but all a lot of bull5hit in reality. but hey, it made for a great song and maynard just used it as an example of evolution in ourselves, and the process of 'individualisation'. another one of jungs theories. This song not being specific to that theory, just using it as a guideline to get his message across.

now, the rest of the song is just about maynard being ready to experience the world in a new light, and to be open to everything the world throws at him. "to be paranoid and to lie". he is even ready to face it when the world throws s hit in his face, or he does things he doesnt want to do like lie. you get the idea, and this is again, an opinion i stole from someone else because i otherwise would have had no fu ck ing clue about this song. i recognised the carl jung stuff though, and if you want to understand the title aenima, and the song aenema, research his stuff. very interesting reading. cheers... :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Yes it is about humans evolving. Its got a tricky meaning behind it has a lot of theorys from fans.

[QUOTE=Tool666]Yeah.. there is only one version of Message to Harry Manback I. There's a Message to Harry Manback II, but thats on Salival, not Ænima. A song that I would recommend is Reflection. Good song.[/QUOTE]


Reflection is an amazing song, probably one of my favourites. However, it is not generally a song that is good to introduce people to Tool with. Most people won't instantly fall in love with Reflection, they usually will though after they have been listening to Tool on a regular basis for a while.

And can we please stop the posts that ask for introductory songs, this happens almost every page. Search back a couple and you will find what your looking for. Double posting is getting annoying to.

my dad loves tool
i think there preety **** cool i haven listend alot though...sorry

Im p!ssed, I can play several tool songs (drums), slowly learning more, but I dont know any bassists or guitarists who like/are good enough to play Tool, and hell if I'll know any vocalists, let alone any who can sing like maynard. Dont know anyone who are heavily into any of the prog. rock scene. Plus I need a double kick ^-^ it's next on my list...
[QUOTE]H. also. Favorite bassline right there.[/QUOTE]
Drums for H. own, sweet and simple. Awsome ending :D sweet electronics, I just play em on the rims of my toms lol. cant go wrong. As soon as I get electronic pads Im gonna start learning the intro to Eulogy. great co-ordination for that.
[QUOTE]And can we please stop the posts that ask for introductory songs, this happens almost every page. Search back a couple and you will find what your looking for. Double posting is getting annoying to.[/QUOTE]
You're gonna have to say that every page you realise?

The beauty of Tool is the majority of thier music is wrote so each person can get thier own opinion as to what it means. I personally took this phylosophy into account when I write music. One of my completed songs is like this. I have yet to have someone tell me what the song is actually about and everyone has thier own opinions. The music I am writing will end up being 5 years in the making, I still have several years worth of work to do before it will be in the infancy stage of recording.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]The beauty of Tool is the majority of thier music is wrote so each person can get thier own opinion as to what it means. I personally took this phylosophy into account when I write music. One of my completed songs is like this. I have yet to have someone tell me what the song is actually about and everyone has thier own opinions. The music I am writing will end up being 5 years in the making, I still have several years worth of work to do before it will be in the infancy stage of recording.[/QUOTE]

you sound a lot like me, although i am guitarist. I barely ever learn any covers by my favourite bands, i'm always writing, when i create music, i look at every aspect or angle i can get on it, then i try it. I try to make music that has an interlocking visual image you know? I have Tool to thank for that, and some Opeth stuff, but mainly Tool. Pity i live in a city where there are virtually null musicians who wish to make this sort of music. hahaha, it'll come.

anyway, post some of the stuff you've done (when you have done it) it'd be awesome to hear.

[QUOTE=jensmatty]
You're gonna have to say that every page you realise?[/QUOTE]

I realise that once it is off the first page it is highly likely that nobody new to this thread will read it. However, there seem to be a few new people posting in this thread lately, and hopefully they will read and take note of it, and thus not encourage it.

And SonorKen, it would be nice to hear some of your material, it sounds as though it should be pretty good. Either that or hearing some of your bands covers would be nice. Hopefully we won't have to wait as long as I've been waiting for Tool's next album either:thumb: