[QUOTE=Iron Bars]Saw Nightwish live last saturday for the second time and I cant get into those guys (and a girl). They sound like they want to make it very easy on themselves, music wise that is. She has a great voice though, so maybe I'll check out how it sounds on disc.

Thanks for the advce.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, look at Jukka playing Wishmaster, lazy sod - he's almost asleep behind that kit.
/sarcasm :angry:

[QUOTE=Iron Bars]Hello, I'm new here, to the forums and to powermetal. I bought Imaginations from the otherside from Blind Guardian and Night of the stormrider form Iced Earth. Could you experts give me some recomendations on bands and albums I should check out.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
The Odyssey from Symphony X. I can't stop listening to it.

calm down guys, we cant all be nightwish fanboys :p

[QUOTE=Moses]The Odyssey from Symphony X. I can't stop listening to it.[/QUOTE]

Awesome album.

As a point, whats so good about the drumming on Wishmaster? Its not particularly technical atall, and its not like his DB is fast. I never understood what made them so critically aclaimed.

[size=1]Therion>>>>>Nightwish[/size]

/tries to piss off the fanboys :D

[QUOTE=Arucard]Awesome album.

As a point, whats so good about the drumming on Wishmaster? Its not particularly technical atall, and its not like his DB is fast. I never understood what made them so critically aclaimed.[/QUOTE]
It's not just that particular album/track - I only used it as an example. His drumming has [I]groove[/I] and complements the songs. People who just equate speed or technicality with greatness are in danger of losing the point of music, which is .....music.
Example Yngwe Malmsteen. Technically probably unsurpassed. Musically sucks balls. IMHO.
Likewise drummers, I don't care how technical stuff is, or how many bpm someone does double bass - I like music, and Nightwish make great music. Period

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Alrighty then, I'm guessing we call Lord Tim by his name of Lord Tim. :p[/QUOTE]

Nah, "Wanker" is fine! :p

[QUOTE=Stoic][size=1]Therion>>>>>Nightwish[/size]

/tries to piss off the fanboys :D[/QUOTE]

:D

Hey i wasn't getting at you, i just don't think hes a particulaly good drummer, i think hes pushed into the background because the attention is meant to be focused on the singing.

Im not a 'OmgZZ! HeS NotT WEle FASTTt LOZZ' person, i just dont see why everyone thinks hes so good.

[QUOTE=Arucard]:D

Hey i wasn't getting at you, i just don't think hes a particulaly good drummer, i think hes pushed into the background because the attention is meant to be focused on the singing.

Im not a 'OmgZZ! HeS NotT WEle FASTTt LOZZ' person, i just dont see why everyone thinks hes so good.[/QUOTE]

He clicks with the music, pretty much. Put anybody else in his place, and their music would suck...he is a fifth of what makes the music good.

By the way, have you listened to Dead Gardens yet? Listen to that, and try to tell me he's not a good drummer.

What album is it on? If its not on Wishmaster, i dont have it.

[QUOTE=Arucard]What album is it on? If its not on Wishmaster, i dont have it.[/QUOTE]

Tis from Once. Once is another brilliant album in its own right.

Upload?

[QUOTE=Arucard]Upload?[/QUOTE]
No - [B]buy it[/B] :D

I don't think id buy Once if someone was going to physically remove my gentials with a pike.

[QUOTE=Arucard]I don't think id buy Once if someone was going to physically remove my gentials with a pike.[/QUOTE]

Tsk...it's a shame you don't want it. Well worth however much you spend on it.

I'll see what I can do about uploading...YSI hates me, and I'm leaving in 45 minutes.

I might buy it if i see it in my second hand store for less than 5 pounds. But first, i must aqquire all Drudkh and Ulver albums.

[QUOTE=Moses]The Odyssey from Symphony X. I can't stop listening to it.[/QUOTE]

I have this one somewhere on mp3, but it was a long time ago that I listened to it.

Symphony X are some of the most brilliant musicians and songwriters in music today. Their stuff is great. I never tire of any of it.

Me either, i got The ****ation Game back from a friend, Dressed To Kill is such a kick arse song.

[QUOTE=Arucard]Me either, i got The ****ation Game back from a friend, Dressed To Kill is such a kick arse song.[/QUOTE]

Are you someone who changed their name? You've been here as long as me and have high post count, yet I don't recall ever seeing you...

88 Fingers Joe, my friend.

[QUOTE=Arucard]88 Fingers Joe, my friend.[/QUOTE]

Haha, hey Joe...Had no idea it was you. Well, back to work.

Haha ok. You keep guarding your Army place good.

[QUOTE=cjborton]Symphony X are some of the most brilliant musicians and songwriters in music today. Their stuff is great. I never tire of any of it.[/QUOTE]

Same here.Micheal Romeo as a composer is amazing.

The guitar on Inferno is so hard :(

i've downloaded silence by sonata arctica which is one of my favourite albums at the moment, and i will buy it eventually, but what would be the best album of theirs to buy besides this one? i haven't heard much else besides this album so i don't know how different the others are.
and also, what exactly is that voice at the start of The End of This Chapter all about? sounds like it's from Scream or something, but i don't even know what the song itself is about anyway.

I personally like Winterheart's Guild...it has some great songs on it.

Symphony X is amazing...I'm gonna be seeing them in...oh...4 hours or so. :D GIGANTOUR!

[QUOTE=Arucard]I don't think id buy Once if someone was going to physically remove my gentials with a pike.[/QUOTE]
Excellent. I'm with you there :cool:

[QUOTE=cjborton]Symphony X are some of the most brilliant musicians and songwriters in music today. Their stuff is great. I never tire of any of it.[/QUOTE]
I began my Symphony X journey with "V- The Mythological Suite", and that album still ranks as my favroite of theirs today. I find it much more on the Power Metal end than the Progressive End, which I like more. Also, I be seeing Symphony X in Gigantour on the 7th of September :cool:


[QUOTE=Arucard]88 Fingers Joe, my friend.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I didn't have a clue :amaze:

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Symphony X is amazing...I'm gonna be seeing them in...oh...4 hours or so. GIGANTOUR![/QUOTE]
Enjoy the show. Tell us what they were like when you come back :thumb:

[QUOTE=Arucard]The guitar on Inferno is so hard :([/QUOTE]

Wahah, the intro is so cool. It just kicks you in the nards right from the start of the album. Plus, what's the time sig, 13, or something? One of my faves from The Odyssey, aside from the title track.

[url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380999]I really like the title track.[/url] :-D

[QUOTE=Material Boy]i've downloaded silence by sonata arctica which is one of my favourite albums at the moment, and i will buy it eventually, but what would be the best album of theirs to buy besides this one? i haven't heard much else besides this album so i don't know how different the others are.
and also, what exactly is that voice at the start of The End of This Chapter all about? sounds like it's from Scream or something, but i don't even know what the song itself is about anyway.[/QUOTE]
That's Mika Nilonen - he does those creepy voices a lot on their albums. Reckoning Night is my fave of theirs

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Wahah, the intro is so cool. It just kicks you in the nards right from the start of the album. Plus, what's the time sig, 13, or something? One of my faves from The Odyssey, aside from the title track.

[url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380999]I really like the title track.[/url] :-D[/QUOTE]

Yah, even the verse with the plam muted riff = \m/

sonata arctica-ecliptica is their best work says the master of the pain

fullmoon is amazing

So, is anyone aware of any new PM releases coming up in the next few months that's worth mentioning?

hmm...let me see...new Gamma Ray, Requiem (Fin), Children of Bodom, Helloween, Edguy DVD (I think) and the new Blind Guardian in April (:D)

I think a new Angra album should be due out soon, and DragonForce are releasing something early 2006.

[QUOTE=Stoic]hmm...let me see...new Gamma Ray, Requiem (Fin), Children of Bodom, Helloween, Edguy DVD (I think) and the new Blind Guardian in April (:D)[/QUOTE]

Requiem is coming out with a new album? Where did you hear that?

I think I first saw in on MA and then read it in metal hammer's upcoming releases.

Cool. I lost their site, but I'm going to find it again. They're really good. I don't have any of their stuff.

Here's their site: [url]http://www.requiem.kpnet.com[/url]. Unfortunately I couldnt find their 2002 album anywhere :(

It was kinda scary, everytime I looked for Requiem I got some weird band that was most certainly not what I was looking for.