while were on the subject... Are solid state HD's worth the money?

SSDs aren't really worth it in my opinion. They have their upsides, but for your average user the only application I could see them worth wild in is a laptop. Why? Simply because they have no moving parts, and hence forth moving your laptop around while it is on can't damage the SSD. Something that most people don't realize can screw up your laptops HDD.

In a desktop, I don't see the point. They have a shorter read/write life span than non Solid State drives, however the majority of drives today do not survive long enough to actually be effected by this. So you narrow it down to the quality of the Solid State drive as to how many times it can be read/written to, but I don't think you'll run into that for a longer time period than worth mentioning.


So you narrow it down to the facts Solid State drives are quiet due to no moving parts, can access data quicker because of this as well. However storage wise they still cost an arm and a leg compared to conventional drives. I'm also pretty sure they run hotter and you can't get very large capacity SSDs yet, for the general public.


Anyways, in common language I don't see the point with conventional HDDs being cheap and large. The average conventional HDD needs to be replaced every 4-6 years, and with 1Tb being like $80 now unless you are video editing or downloading WAY too much crap, you wont need 1Tb worth of room.


Hell, I only got two 1Tb HDDs because I wanted to run RAID 1. If I ever come across $200 I don't need, I may just buy two more and Run them RAID 0/1. I mean hell, I have my parents and my own music CD collection (about 400-500 CDs) in 320 Kb/s quality on my desktop, it only takes up 45.2Gb.

they're supposed to be the next big thing i think, cos theres no moving parts (and thus it should be more reliable... in theory), but i'd wait a bit until prices go down more.

$400 for 80gb SSD, or $100 for 1tb HDD. i'd go with the HDD myself

i got my 1tb harddrive for $70 on sale though yay

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17515331]or downloading WAY too much crap, you wont need 1Tb worth of room.

[/QUOTE]

that'd be me

Thanks for the info LFD I was just curious now I know for sure I won't be purchasing 1.

[QUOTE=mnemonic;17515334]they're supposed to be the next big thing i think, cos theres no moving parts (and thus it should be more reliable... in theory), but i'd wait a bit until prices go down more.
[/QUOTE]

Everything has it's ups and downs... I've dealt with SSD on a micro-controller and it had a limit of being re-written 1,000 times. It's hard to believe, but when you are writing software and testing it you can easily do 10 re-writes on a good day, let alone a bad day. The teacher told us he has had groups kill the micro-controllers before in a semester.


Even if your SSD has a limit of 100,000 re-writes, just think of how many times your computer accesses the drive. Eventually something is going to give, and the only upside behind that is that SSD usually fail/wear-out/etc. when you are reading or writing. So unlike HDD, you have a very low chance of actually losing data when parts of the drive corrupt, and a very high chance of just losing part of the drive instead of the whole drive when it does occur.


That, and the fact it has no moving parts is why the Military use them. They're using a laptop, bouncing around in a vehicle in God knows where, with information vital to their life on a computer. They need something like that.


If you have the money and some data which you just cannot lose, that is probably the only reason to buy a SSD. However running RAID 1 is a much easier solution, and RAID 0 is probably all the average human needs for drive access speed. Eventually they'll probably become standard, erase the need for HDD, even maybe see 1Tb SSD. Though that'll probably be in about five years, so get yourself two drives and run them in Raid 1. By the time they are old, you can go out and buy a cheap SSD.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17514497]*Roberts'

In other more depressing news, I had to put my cat which I've had for 16 years to sleep on tuesday. It's weird not having him around.[/QUOTE]

no, see, the way max spelled it is now perfectly acceptable in america

for some god damned reason

[QUOTE=purple_hazer;17515586]no, see, the way max spelled it is now perfectly acceptable in america

for some god damned reason[/QUOTE]

WTF part of America are you from? I am by no right any where year an English major, but I know that it is not "Roberts's" but Roberts'.

Roberts'

Roberts's is more correct.
And we should all be using serial commas.
And thou shalt spell the word pheonix...

I'll buy a tube HD then

[QUOTE=Aes820;17515978]Roberts's is more correct.
And we should all be using serial commas.
And thou shalt spell the word pheonix...[/QUOTE]

thou shalt not use poetry, art, or music to get into a girls pants...
use it to get into their heads.

sshd's are good for laptops due to less energy used as well




oh sorry were not on that topic anymore? /leafs

[QUOTE=Aes820;17515978]Roberts's is more correct.
And we should all be using serial commas.
And thou shalt spell the word pheonix...[/QUOTE]

It really isn't though. Logically, it may be, but the English language isn't logical.

F E N I X, regardless of what the Oxford English Dictionary tells you.

we are not what you think we are, we are golden, we are golden

lod my rotator cuff is still screwed up and it's impacting my ability to do military press and other shoulder lifts what do I do

ITT doctor lod cures my shoulder

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17516273]
F E N I X, regardless of what the Oxford English Dictionary tells you.[/QUOTE]

Thou shalt not use music to get into girl's pants!

Thou shalt not steal

oshi LFD beat me to it :-D Thou shalt ALWAYS kill :-D

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;17516434]lod my rotator cuff is still screwed up and it's impacting my ability to do military press and other shoulder lifts what do I do

ITT doctor lod cures my shoulder[/QUOTE]

:lol: Dave working out :lol:

Next week is going to suck donkey dick: 8 hws, one program, and 2 tests.

[QUOTE=The Black Fist;17516434]lod my rotator cuff is still screwed up and it's impacting my ability to do military press and other shoulder lifts what do I do

ITT doctor lod cures my shoulder[/QUOTE]

**** it dude, just work out on one of these machines and do some running and you'll look like hugh jackman in like a year's time

i would like to have ez drummer


i got these shoes today

[img]http://www.getprice.com.au/images/uploadimg/878/350__1_Shoes_iAEC1061188.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=purple_hazer;17515586]no, see, the way max spelled it is now perfectly acceptable in america

for some god damned reason[/QUOTE]

oi, i spelled it roberts, windows does that by itself.

i'd change it if i could, it annoys the hell out of me too.

[QUOTE=motogrifo;17516091]I'll buy a tube HD then[/QUOTE]

its all about magnetic tape drives tbh.

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Magtape1.jpg[/IMG]

two whole megabytes there! so compact too!

[QUOTE=Blue_Moon;17516698]i would like to have ez drummer


i got these shoes today

[img]http://www.getprice.com.au/images/uploadimg/878/350__1_Shoes_iAEC1061188.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

thats.... thats just awful

noooooooo

no internets approval :(

lol chuck taylors gtfo

aww man x2 :(

doug and carrie doug and carrie doug and carrie

I only got a pair 2 weeks ago, but i drew on them, they're awsome now

wrap yer balls around these fellers

[img]http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/alsfotos/DSC02492.jpg[/img]


i had a similar pair before but lost them in a drunken rampage

[QUOTE=mnemonic;17516761]
its all about magnetic tape drives tbh.
[/QUOTE]

Bah, only good for long term, non-easy access, storage of HUGE amounts of data. It's always scary when you remember something from your college classes. :lol:

I don't care what shoes you wear. hell, put some plastic bags over your socks and secure em with a rubber band round the ol' ankle and you're golden. what you need some crappy red shoes for?

Aww thanks

[QUOTE=GorgeousGabe;17517263]I don't care what shoes you wear. hell, put some plastic bags over your socks and secure em with a rubber band round the ol' ankle and you're golden. what you need some crappy red shoes for?[/QUOTE]

**** man

that **** is just so... so [I]primal[/I]

so [I]shamanistic[/I]