Fortunately the brothers were united by a used automobile in Winnipeg; otherwise they may have never had any experiences to share together because their lives were obviously different, even in purchasing the car, as Lyman recounts, “Mine was cash, a big bankroll from the Joliet’s insurance. Henry had two checks – a week’s extra pay for being laid off, and his regular check from the Jewel Bearing Plant.”

Does this make sense?

[QUOTE=Aerodyne;13365356]Oh you have no idea. She thinks that the entire world is against her and she's trying to find her "real friends" and all of that bull. She ran around one time saying she was going to cut her wrists and he took the knife she had away so she said, "That's okay, I'll just find a knife at my house, and you can't stop me. *giggle".

Even worse, one time, they had a spat, so he said, "Look this isn't worth it, it's going to be okay." Her response? "Okay. *slams head into wall" :confused: !?[/QUOTE]

righto, my analysis:

prissy little emo bitch who wants people at her beck and call 24hours a day so she makes them feel bad by threatening to kill herself.

yes, society is going down the preverbial toilet

[QUOTE=The Brad;13365366]Fortunately the brothers were united by a used automobile in Winnipeg; otherwise they may have never had any experiences to share together because their lives were obviously different, even in purchasing the car, as Lyman recounts, “Mine was cash, a big bankroll from the Joliet’s insurance. Henry had two checks – a week’s extra pay for being laid off, and his regular check from the Jewel Bearing Plant.”

Does this make sense?[/QUOTE]


...no

God, I do not get the urge to write until I am tired. :\

Funky: Yes, that's about how it is. She wants attention in the worst way. It's absoutely absurd. It's not her I'm really concerned with though. She is screwing his life to pieces. I don't know who his friends are now. I have no idea what's going on, and it will probably take a good while to resolve.

[QUOTE=Aerodyne;13365378]Funky: Yes, that's about how it is. She wants attention in the worst way. It's absoutely absurd. It's not her I'm really concerned with though. She is screwing his life to pieces. I don't know who his friends are now. I have no idea what's going on, and it will probably take a good while to resolve.[/QUOTE]

if she really wants to kill die you should take a brick to her head to put her out of her "misery"*... i mean, ermm, ahh.

i dunno, you jsut need to get all your mates together and go talk to him OR confront her




*aka, horse**** created by angsty teen girls who can't get guys to like them because they don't realise that acting normal as opposed to suicidle is a more effective means







yeah brad that makes more sense... but i still have no idea what its all about :confused:

I'm sure that in context that would make a lot more sense than it does now. It sounds kinda like "Ethan Frome". I read the first few pages online and I really like the way it was presented. Seems like a good read, but I'll need to buy the book. I just can't read online for prolonged periods.

Well I don't think you really want me to post the whole essay. :p

[quote=Aerodyne;13365310]Well it's not me it's my friend. :lol:
Seriously, I have a friend who's in a relationship that is ruining his life. The first problem is that the girl he's dating is 15 and he's 19. Plus she is suicidal, but she only does it for attention. She has only tried to "kill" herself once, by taking a handful of tylenol. The rest of the time, she threatens to kill herself.

She had a rough breakup with some other guy which is where the suicidal tendencies came from. However, while dating my friend, she would brag about going through an entire box of condoms in one night when she was with her ex. :confused: Long story short, everyone of this guys friends knew she was ruining him, she spent months telling him how much she hated her ex, then one day decided that she wanted to see if she liked the old boyfriend better than my friend. :confused: x mobius He decided he was tired of being treated like crap, and broke up with her. Two weeks later, they're dating again, she's setting him against all of his friends because we've been telling him she's trash, and worst of all, none of this is taking place in personal interaction. It's all unfolding on myspace. :angry:

Can you make heads or tails of this?[/quote]


Okay, here goes:

1. She is still very young and immature.

2. Your friend should know better than to be in volved with her, but most likely is because I am assuming he is getting sex out of the whole deal and that is most lkely affecting his judgement.

3. As for the suicide thing on her part, she is either a real pre-maddona (craves attention) and just sees it as another means of getting said attention. The other option is that she genuinly has been very emotionally hurt (a possibility considering what you have told me about her and the ex).

4. I will not bring the legallity of the relationship into question and the fact that if they are having sex it is legally statutory rape becasue she is a minor. But that unfortunately is a problem here.

5. From my experience more than 2 years age difference between the age bracket of 15 - 23 is asking for trouble. I dated a girl in grade 12 when I was second year varsity and the maturity level is massive, in short I broke it off after 3 odd months.


Okay now for the advice.

You need to sit down with this friend of yours and ask him what he is getting out of the relationship. Is there more to it than just sex? (I am assuming that is the main draw card here, please correct me if I am wrong).

If he feels that there is more to it and that they honestly have a futurwe together, the only real thing you can do is to tell him that you respect his decision and wil be there for him if he needs you.

If, however after chatting to him, you feel that the relationship is all about the physical side (I have been there too, its fun, but it cannot last) tell him that as a friend you feel he really needs to evaluate what he is getting out of the whole thing.

I also think that perhaps in a way he feels some sort of responsibility for this girl mixed in with a fair bit of guilt tripping from her side. What I mean by that is, I think he feels that she has had a tough time of it and he is her knight in shining armour so to speak becasue of the whole bad break up with her ex.

The attempted suicide deal on her part only succeds in pulling him in further and brining in the guilt side becasue he now feels that she is his responsibility and that if he does end it with er that will push her over the edge.

Esentially it seems as if he is stuck with the following conundrum:

- Break it off and give up the physical, then have her threaten to actually commit suicide.

or

- Keep the relationship going out of concern for what will happen if he ends it, the main draw card being the physical I am assuming.


I also feel that because she is still so you and still immature (seen from the bulliten post) she is not prepared to listen to the concerns his friends have.


My view on the whole matter is that your friend needs to end it ASAP with this girl, and that she needs to either sit down with a family member or counciler of some sort and talk about where she is in her life right now and an appropriate way forward.



Please remeber that the best solution in anything like this is to get a proffesional involved, be it family mebers who care about the parties involved or a psychologist / councelor.

My Friends:
Sean: You know, I would honestly love to burn that witch at the stake, but would it make her a martyr for her cause? *contemplates a moment* Nah, lets just get it over with. You bring the marshmellows, I'll bring the chocolate...Russ and Judd, you guys bring the Graham crackers, we're lighting the bitch up!

Matt: dood.. sean.. you forgot about me you ****er.. lol.. You have to start the fire somehow.. Is piss flammable?


Her Friends:
Rachel:Look. We've all had our times to hate each other, but those of us who can let go of that hatred are the ones who will prevail. I'm sorry, Judd, but you can't change Harrison's mind on this

Alex: Who's tired of hatred? ALEX IS!!!

So please help end it. Love yourself, love your friends, love your families, and love, most of all, your enemies. B/c condemnation will come to those who can neither forgive nor forget. So please guys. I wish for no one to be condemned. I love you all so much. Please stop hating eachother. Please.

LOVE YOUR FRIEND!
ALEX ♥♥♥ subject. He's going to do what he wants to do no matter what anyone else says. All we can do is hope for the best. If he feels he's being wronged, he'll do something about it. Let it go. It's not your place to tell him how he should run his life.

[quote=funkyhoney;13365367]righto, my analysis:

prissy little emo bitch who wants people at her beck and call 24hours a day so she makes them feel bad by threatening to kill herself.

yes, society is going down the preverbial toilet[/quote]


You seem to have gotten al lot more agro about this sort of thing.

Take it it is as a result of the **** you went through.

Glad to see you are also fed up with the "I'm a poor little person who nobody loves and now I am going to kill myself"

I completely agree, they need to grow a backbone and some thicker skin.



Just a rant on my part now.

Yes life can be difficult around the age that girl is at, and yes we all have our problems. The difference is, actual people deal with it rather than copping out and putting an end to it all.

I also wondered if it was all worth it at that age and what would rreally be so bad about just eating a gun, but there is just too much stuff in this life to live for.

If you can't be bothered to go out there and find it, then you are just continuing a self defeatist cycle that will result in you destroying the life you have been given without actually knowing if you could have achieved something.

So basically, get the FUC[U]K [/U]OUT THERE AND LIVE!!!


Rant finished

What is the symbolism behind a convertible?
Or the reason you would want one if you are poor?

Just to show off your supposed wealth, right?

The way I see it,
Suicide is self-expression.
[IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/bigbadbradrankin/Untitled-6.gif[/IMG]
Express yourself.

Hobbes: Thanks, I just needed to vent all of this to someone who hasn't heard the story a thousand times so I could get a fresh perspective, and that's just what you did. :thumb:

That's mostly what we've been trying to do. But no matter what we say to him (I try to be more tactful than my friends) she convinces him that we're trying to interfere with his happiness, and that we have no reason being involved with what goes on.

As far as the counseling, he was seeing a university counselor after they first broke up because he was physically ill afterwards. I've heard that he wasn't so good after last nite either, but I haven't been able to speak with him. The worst part is, none of the kids involved want to talk in person about any of this. It's all on mypace, which bugs me to no end. :angry:

This is absolutely ridiculous, and I'm going to do what I can to resolve this, but I don't think there's anything else I can do. The ball is pretty much in his court.

One final note, I really hate nitpicking, especially after all the help you gave me, but it's prima-donna. I just wanted to let you know, I'm not trying to be a douche. :thumb:

[quote=The Brad;13365427]What is the symbolism behind a convertible?
Or the reason you would want one if you are poor?

Just to show off your supposed wealth, right?[/quote]


Any fancy car is an expression on ones having "made it".

A convertable arguable more so as it is a means of truely showing the fredom money has given you.

Or the other option.

"Hey look at me ladies, I drive a fancy shiny fast car, my di[U]c[/U]k must be just as fancy shiny and fast, not to mention huge to boot"

That gives me an idea.

[QUOTE=Aerodyne;13365407]My Friends:
Sean: You know, I would honestly love to burn that witch at the stake, but would it make her a martyr for her cause? *contemplates a moment* Nah, lets just get it over with. You bring the marshmellows, I'll bring the chocolate...Russ and Judd, you guys bring the Graham crackers, we're lighting the bitch up!

Matt: dood.. sean.. you forgot about me you ****er.. lol.. You have to start the fire somehow.. Is piss flammable?


Her Friends:
Rachel:Look. We've all had our times to hate each other, but those of us who can let go of that hatred are the ones who will prevail. I'm sorry, Judd, but you can't change Harrison's mind on this

Alex: Who's tired of hatred? ALEX IS!!!

[B]So please help end it. Love yourself, love your friends, love your families, and love, most of all, your enemies. B/c condemnation will come to those who can neither forgive nor forget. So please guys. I wish for no one to be condemned. I love you all so much. Please stop hating eachother. Please.[/B]

LOVE YOUR FRIEND!
ALEX ♥♥♥ subject. He's going to do what he wants to do no matter what anyone else says. All we can do is hope for the best. If he feels he's being wronged, he'll do something about it. Let it go. It's not your place to tell him how he should run his life.[/QUOTE]


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!!!! AHHAHA!!!

god i hate hearning mid-teen girls in their little groups trying to sound serious, is seriously cracks me up

I know my car reflects my penis. Small, white, and dented. And a hole in the back. Plus it doesn't start up when you want to. Worst of all, it's a manual. :upset:

































:lol:

[QUOTE=ebe9;13365424]You seem to have gotten al lot more agro about this sort of thing.

Take it it is as a result of the **** you went through.

Glad to see you are also fed up with the "I'm a poor little person who nobody loves and now I am going to kill myself"

I completely agree, they need to grow a backbone and some thicker skin.


[/QUOTE]

i'm not realy any more agro because of my problems, its just that i get extremely pissed off by little cry-baby bitches like this :rolleyes:

it ****s me to tears, they need to grow up and learn that life isn't all roses and playing grab-arse in the grassy hills


edit: i don't get anywhere near as angry now, its just a mild annoyance in my life, i used to get extremely angry and stressed out because people were so stupid and immature, this created anxiety and physical stress, and i got pshysically sick on many occasions..

anger managment theropy ftw!

[quote=Aerodyne;13365439]Hobbes: Thanks, I just needed to vent all of this to someone who hasn't heard the story a thousand times so I could get a fresh perspective, and that's just what you did. :thumb:

That's mostly what we've been trying to do. But no matter what we say to him (I try to be more tactful than my friends) she convinces him that we're trying to interfere with his happiness, and that we have no reason being involved with what goes on.

As far as the counseling, he was seeing a university counselor after they first broke up because he was physically ill afterwards. I've heard that he wasn't so good after last nite either, but I haven't been able to speak with him. The worst part is, none of the kids involved want to talk in person about any of this. It's all on mypace, which bugs me to no end. :angry:

This is absolutely ridiculous, and I'm going to do what I can to resolve this, but I don't think there's anything else I can do. The ball is pretty much in his court.

One final note, I really hate nitpicking, especially after all the help you gave me, but it's prima-donna. I just wanted to let you know, I'm not trying to be a douche. :thumb:[/quote]


Everyone involved just needs to take a step back, I mean why the hell is it all posted on a public website for all to see.

Does settling desputes face to face no longer exist?

Last time I checked if I have a disagreement with someone, I try to sort it out, if it cannot be sorted out I keep the hell out of the way of the other person so that I do not have to deal with them.


I think all his friends need to get together asa group and confront him. Be a united force and go in with the the following mentality:

- He is our friend
- We are concerned about him
- We want to help

Once you have gotten his response, be it "yes I want you help" or "Leave me alone I am happy" then you must respect that and respect his wishes.



Oh, and on the prima-donna thing, I thought I had got that wrong, but I did get what I was trying to say across, so its all good. :thumb:

[quote=funkyhoney;13365462]i'm not realy any more agro because of my problems, its just that i get extremely pissed off by little cry-baby bitches like this :rolleyes:

it ****s me to tears, they need to grow up and learn that life isn't all roses and playing grab-arse in the grassy hills


edit: i don't get anywhere near as angry now, its just a mild annoyance in my life, i used to get extremely angry and stressed out because people were so stupid and immature, this created anxiety and physical stress, and i got pshysically sick on many occasions..

anger managment theropy ftw![/quote]


Bingo!


But unfortunately to them at that age it is honestly a matter of life and death.

Makes for a good read though, and I don't mind offering advice. In fact I like to help, because it means that everyone is better for it at the end of the day and something can actually be learned from the whole situation with any luck.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13365465]Everyone involved just needs to take a step back, I mean [B][U]why the hell is it all posted on a public website for all to see.

Does settling desputes face to face no longer exist?[/U][/B]

Last time I checked if I have a disagreement with someone, I try to sort it out, if it cannot be sorted out I keep the hell out of the way of the other person so that I do not have to deal with them.


I think all his friends need to get together asa group and confront him. Be a united force and go in with the the following mentality:

- He is our friend
- We are concerned about him
- We want to help

Once you have gotten his response, be it "yes I want you help" or "Leave me alone I am happy" then you must respect that and respect his wishes.



Oh, and on the prima-donna thing, I thought I had got that wrong, but I did get what I was trying to say across, so its all good. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


your too old hobbes, everything these days is posted on emospace, i mean myspace for all to see, how else are people going to know how truely angsty you are without complaining about things on an international public website?

[QUOTE=ebe9;13365469]Bingo!


But unfortunately to them at that age it is honestly a matter of life and death.

Makes for a good read though, and I don't mind offering advice. In fact I like to help, because it means that everyone is better for it at the end of the day and something can actually be learned from the whole situation with any luck.[/QUOTE]

i am at that age and i can honestly say suicide or any kind of self harm has crossed my mind, i mean, if i get hurt, how exactly is slashing my wrists going to help? it wont, the only way to help is to get up, dust mself off, stop being a passive cry-baby and do something about it. its not the end of the world. how immature people my age are these days annoys me to no end.

i would help others, but i can't unless they stop crying and threatening people with suicide to get what they want, if they are going to be that selfish then they don't deserve help.

[quote=funkyhoney;13365476]your too old hobbes, everything these days is posted on emospace, i mean myspace for all to see, how else are people going to know how truely angsty you are without complaining about things on an international public website?[/quote]


For fu[U]c[/U]k sakes I am only 24 and already over the hill!


I have absolutely no interest in myspace, al it is to me is a means of letting every person on the whole plannet have a means of broadcasting all their problems and hsare their sh[U]i[/U]t with the world.

In essence that is what the web is about these days, I don't get blogs either.

Maybe I am just too old.


I suppose the one hole in my theory is that MX is in a way also a blog/means of sharing with others.

Don't get me wrong, I love the web community idea, hell I love the concept of community that I am a communist/socialist and have the bloody soviet hammer and sicle tatooed on my back, but when they degrade into a boo hho my life is so **** fest that I get pissed off.

Everyone has problems, and everyone needs to sort it out for themselves, sure people are willing to help, but only to a point.

You need to live your own life, not have somebody live it for you.




And I did have a good chuckle at your comment. :thumb:

Bingo :thumb:

I really wish we could sit down and figure out exactly how he feels about this. I don't think he knows that we're as concerned as we are, he's definitely being misled by the skank. I have no doubts about that.

[quote=Aerodyne;13365500]Bingo :thumb:

I really wish we could sit down and figure out exactly how he feels about this. I don't think he knows that we're as concerned as we are, he's definitely being misled by the skank. I have no doubts about that.[/quote]


Hence the idea of getting together as a group and speaking to him, that way he can see that you are all really concerend about him and maybe that will be the catalyst in him getting his sh[U]i[/U]t sorted.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13365495]For fu[U]c[/U]k sakes I am only 24 and already over the hill!


I have absolutely no interest in myspace, al it is to me is a means of letting every person on the whole plannet have a means of broadcasting all their problems and hsare their sh[U]i[/U]t with the world.

In essence that is what the web is about these days, I don't get blogs either.

Maybe I am just too old.


I suppose the one hole in my theory is that MX is in a way also a blog/means of sharing with others.

Don't get me wrong, I love the web community idea, hell I love the concept of community that I am a communist/socialist and have the bloody soviet hammer and sicle tatooed on my back, but when they degrade into a boo hho my life is so **** fest that I get pissed off.

Everyone has problems, and everyone needs to sort it out for themselves, sure people are willing to help, but only to a point.

You need to live your own life, not have somebody live it for you.




And I did have a good chuckle at your comment. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


blog ****s me to no end, i really don't care if jane doe has a fight with her lover or if she ate a mediocre sandwich, i wrote blogs, but they were all about how much blogs suck, i know i contradicted myself but i'm always right so they can stick it.

yeah, i tried to pay out you age (or lack there of in real life)

D00d wtf
I typed in illusion in a dictionary and the ad on the page is for a dildo.

I'm going to work on that. It will probably go down this week around tuesday or so. Free food at the campus churches. :thumb: Come for the food, leave before the word. I feel bad, cause I would much rather go to a campus church sermon than a traditional church, but I don't care for the direction christianity is taking in this country regardless of whom the church is aimed at.
/rant

There needs to be a hitler smiley to denote rants. I've decided.