[QUOTE=Jom]Or you could ask her if she has any hot friends or something. But I don't encourage that.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

But, seriously, why not?

Angela just called me asking if I could do something later and I said I already have plans (which I do) and she said from one friend to another some tips on girls. I think that just cut it deep, now I know for pretty much 100% that she sees me as [i]friends only[/i] and I don't know what to do about it.

I want to do the whole move on thing and try again later but she's going to be constantly asking to hang out which will only further the 'friends only' thing. I think if I didn't talk to her for a while and we started off totally new than I might be able to do things differently. Because, right now, I can't see myself wanting to be only friends but I don't want to come across like that.

I want more from it than her but confronting her about it I feel isn't going to solve anything.
So I ask a question, is there ever a point of no return with girls and being friends? I mean, just a little over a week ago we were making out and thinking of going out again but then she said she didn't want to and was only going to be friends. And she has made up her mind [i]really[/i] quickly and that it seems that [i]any[/i] feeling of more than just friends from her from before has quickly died. Any ideas how to get them back?

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]So I ask a question, is there ever a point of no return with girls and being friends?

Any ideas how to get them back?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, there is a point of no return. I'm afraid you seem to have crossed. This is the main pitfall with girls, and you have fallen down that pit and been skewered on the spikes of 'no return' hidden at the bottom. Sorry man.

[QUOTE=Chrysostom]Yeah, there is a point of no return. I'm afraid you seem to have crossed. This is the main pitfall with girls, and you have fallen down that pit and been skewered on the spikes of 'no return' hidden at the bottom. Sorry man.[/QUOTE]

well i mean, its happened before with her too

like, i liked her all last year (and she knew it) and she then denied me. All summer long (last one) i was friends with her but I guess i never slipped into the 'just friends' thing. She always called me her best friend and said that she was able to talk to me about anything, but i guess i never slipped into the 'just friends' with her until now, and truthfully i am going to have a HARD time meeting new ones because im not very good at it

goddamnit

I just wana know how important you guys think the first kiss with someone is?

I went to the cinema with a girl last night and while we were waiting for her dad to pick her up we were both a little nervous. I was just gonna go for it a few times but pussied out:(. Then her dad rang saying he was outside and we went to hug each other and both of us went in to kiss, it was very brief and not much at all. So Im just wondering how important you all think the first kiss is?

btw Im 16 and it wasnt my first kiss in general, just with this girl.

Not that important. Your first kiss with someone is always going to kind of awkward at your age, so don't worry about it.

K thanks you just made me feel better about it now.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Not that important. Your first kiss with someone is always going to kind of awkward at your age, so don't worry about it.[/QUOTE]

uhh hey kim

soo what do you think about my situation...?

I think you're past the point of no return, unfortunately. She's stopped thinking of you as a boyfriend, which is why she's giving you tips on girls.

ahhh.. didn't want to hear that, but i guess it happens :(
ooh welll.. life goes on

how are you doing?

I'm okay. Got a gig tonight.

what kind of music do you play?

Classic rock and alternative.

[QUOTE=Mutilated Cadaver]I don't find 3 years' a big gap unless the girl is really immature. Some girls like older guys ya know.[/QUOTE]
Well, it's 3 years at the moment. I turn 17 in about 3 weeks or so. I don't want to sound like...I guess an ***, but I'm more mature than your average junior in high school. Don't get me wrong, I can be immature, but for the most part I'm not. I still can't tell if she actually likes me or not. People say that I'm a 'fun person to go to a dance with' so maybe that's all she thinks. I'm pessimistic when it comes to these things.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]I think you're past the point of no return, unfortunately[/QUOTE]
Wow I didn't realise that existed...

I'm pretty much best friends with the girl I like, we joke about getting married and stuff which is fine for her as she's probably not attracted to me now I hear about this point of no return thing, but it's driving me mad liking her so much...

I don't want to say anything in case she gets freaked out and we stop being friends...

When I liked this one girl, and I got in the friend zone, I stopped talking to her for a few weeks. Then when I saw her again she was real flirty...but I never pursued it. Maybe that'd work?

There was this girl I had a thing with...twice. First time, we got in a big fight about something, second time, I realized I can't trust her and don't really like much about her.

But this morning, I woke up and started thinking of her. I just liked spending time with her, not so much her personality most of the time. She's quite a bitch and stuff. She hates me now, but we always end up having feelings for eachother again. I want to try to make peace with her, but I don't know how since I have no way of really talking to her.

This is the story about the second time:

I started hanging out with her again about 5 months after the first time. That's when I started smoking again too, and one night I was supposed to be staying the night at a friend's house. I left about 12:30 or so, and went to her house. About 2:00, I come home and plan to just say I got bored and decided to come home. Didn't fly and they found out what had happened, as well as the fact that I was smoking again. Now, last time I got caught smoking(it was more like 3 times in a row) I was put on a sort of lockdown. No computer, phone, going out, anything for like 2 months. So I expected that to happen again this time. I talked to her a few days later and told her all about it, and asked her if she would wait the entire time. A few days later I realized having to ask this meant that I couldn't trust her, and that's when it started to get worse. I found out she had been hanging out with another guy a lot, and I know what that means because I know what she's like. I eventually talked to her about 3 weeks later, and I knew she was pretty much with that guy by then, but she was still claiming to be waiting for me. I told her that was bullsh!t, insulted her, was an asshole. She didn't understand why, I told her how she treated me like **** so much, and this was just me getting a bit even, and that it won't last. About a month ago, I called her and asked if she really did hate me, she said yes. I asked why, because I didn't really do anything out-of-line (meaning nothing she didn't deserve or was unjustifiable). She just gave me one of those "Pfft" things, and I hung up. That was the last I've heard from her, but she sits near me in study hall (I transferred to her school shortly after all that)

Y'know what the real ***-kicker is? I was only grounded for about a week and now I can smoke when I like.

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]When I liked this one girl, and I got in the friend zone, I stopped talking to her for a few weeks. Then when I saw her again she was real flirty...but I never pursued it. Maybe that'd work?[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm thinking of trying. See her one last time, make sure just to have a kickass time then have her come after [i]me[/i]

Forget about it dude, why waste your time with her. She sounds like nothing special. It's been said time and time again, but there are plenty of girls out there. You said it yourself, she's the kind of person that would 'hang out' with another guy without you knowing. She' s not trustworthy. And you guys fight a lot. It wasn't meant to be. Move on.

EDIT:To Baliente

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]Forget about it dude, why waste your time with her. She sounds like nothing special. It's been said time and time again, but there are plenty of girls out there. You said it yourself, she's the kind of person that would 'hang out' with another guy without you knowing. She' s not trustworthy. And you guys fight a lot. It wasn't meant to be. Move on.

EDIT:To Baliente[/QUOTE]

But I just want to spend a bit of time with her again. I don't know why, I just do. I wouldn't need a relationship or anything.

Hi. Just here to say that I'm prolly never going to get the girl I want. Because I'm a cowardly bastard. :(

Plus she's never on the f[size=2]ucking[/size] internet.

[QUOTE=Strongbad]Hi. Just here to say that I'm prolly never going to get the girl I want. Because I'm a cowardly bastard. :(

Plus she's never on the f[size=2]ucking[/size] internet.[/QUOTE]

Hi right back at ya.

What does the internet ahve to do with it?

There are ways to get over your cowardness, ya know.

Hello thread. entertain me cuz I'm uber bored now and havent been by in a long itme.

Strongbad: does she have a telephone?

Im not good with phone conversations. :/

[QUOTE=Strongbad]Im not good with phone conversations. :/[/QUOTE]

What about face to face? You can always work on these things...

That's even worse than phone. :/

I suggest working on these, either with friends or just sucking it up and calling or just casually talking to the girl.

[QUOTE=OnTheySlay]I suggest you stop acting like a little bitch and just talk to her.[/QUOTE]

Well said, I agree 100%.

[QUOTE=Strongbad]That's even worse than phone. :/[/QUOTE]

If you wanna get somewhere with this, you are gonna have to work on getting better with your skills. If you want help doing that, we will try but if you want the easy way out you will not make it.

Sorry to be so hard but its the truth.

i had a realy bad few days.
ive been talkign to this girl for like 6 months now
and she lives 100 miles away
ive still never seen her, so that sucks. but anyways
recently shes been akward on the phone
so i asked her whats up, and shes like
i dont want to get attached , and i dont care if you want to meet other girls
which trust me, i dont.
but i cant get her to take me back in the way she use to
i think i should just give up, and find someone closer
but shes to cool to do that, and i feel like i never will

what do i do : [