[QUOTE=Fallen Zero]how is octavarium? i'm hoping that it takes a step back and goes back to the old style. i'm not too much of a fan of train of thought.[/QUOTE]

It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and there's keyboard ALL OVER this album.

[QUOTE=Cain]It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and there's keyboard ALL OVER this album.[/QUOTE]

sounds cool. as far as labrie's vocals, do you mean they are still like the last album? the more angry style?

[QUOTE=Fallen Zero]sounds cool. as far as labrie's vocals, do you mean they are still like the last album? the more angry style?[/QUOTE]

Nah, just very overdramatic and loud in the quiet moments. The man does not know how to deliver a sensitive vocal line in peace and doesn't know how to be aggressive without some belted yell in the loudness. He's just not a very good vocalist, IMO.

hey ill upload it to ya bud

[QUOTE=Med57]Ah, the curse of LaBrie's singing strikes again. :-/ I still haven't got this album, as there's not one CD shop around me that has it in stock. Pathetic, isn't it? I mean, with DT being the biggest prog metal band in the world I would have thought one of them would deign to bring in the odd copy, but clearly not.

*sigh*

Hopefully, I can pick it up next time that I'm in London. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]
I found some DT albums in Virgin i was actually pretty suprised.

Here in Denmark DT albums are everywhere

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]hey ill upload it to ya bud[/QUOTE]

Don't do that, let him buy it. Part of the coolness is in the packaging. And there's enough piracy on the site already, without expanding it to albums.

I've had the new album now for a couple days. I havent had a chance to sit and listen to all of it yet. But I did listen to the title track after reading so much about it...and I have to say I was somewhat disappointed. It has its moments (like petruccis little acoustic lick around 17:50 or so :thumb: ) but I thought it left much to be desired.

Hopefully I'll get to the rest of it tonight.

So I go to Tower Records yesterday to buy Octavarium. I get there and look in the new releases section, not there, okay meh. I head over to the DT section and there's one in the back... with a $20 price tag. No discount for being new. Fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck that, I'll d/l it now, after I waited because I didn't want to d/l it. Ironic...

Some of the little nuggets on here are incredible

I love how the piano key the song is listed on is the key the song was written in. I also cracked up when I heard the measure of "Jingle Bells" on the title track 17:47 - 17:49 :lol:

What is the packaging like with it, standard cd case or Paper Back or whatever?

So far I think I am going to buy this.

[QUOTE=Cain]It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and [B]there's keyboard ALL OVER this album[/B].[/QUOTE]
eeeexcellent :)

I'm kinda thinkin that this is my favorite Dream Theater album so far, I love it.

i just bought it like 2 hours ago and i think it has a pretty good ambience for that album... i must say i only own ToT, live at budokan and, octavarium which are more in my tastes considering im more into metal than rock but still i really like the slower songs from budokan's dvd.. but to come back to octavarium.. at first listen i cant say i really heard any amazing solo(like wtf-stoked-cantmove) but still i really like the ambience the keyboard is adding. i really liked the vocals too less aggressive than ToT without the rapcore like parts. one of my fav song from it is never enough. it has a kinda new sound that mixes psytrance-metal and it has a more opera groove.

I just got [i]Octavarium[/i] now, the first song was excellent but this second one is like Anna Lee, but worse :(

is there a song named octavarium, if so how much does it lasts?

thx

[QUOTE=daven]is there a song named octavarium, if so how much does it lasts?

thx[/QUOTE]
24 minutes

I'm really dissapointed by this album. The first song is awesome, it's part 3 of the Glass Prison. The rest of it kind of sucks, though. It's just boring, formulaic, and uncreative. I haven't listened to the title track enough to know what to think of that one though.

about 24min...23:59 to be precise.

[QUOTE=azathoth]I just got [i]Octavarium[/i] now, the first song was excellent but this second one is like Anna Lee, but worse :([/QUOTE]

The piano line is remiscient of an Evanescence song. :-/

I love the album personally. The last two tracks are mindblowing.

[QUOTE=clearvision]about 24min...23:59 to be precise.[/QUOTE]

WRONG - The leak was 23:59, the actual version is exactly 24:00.

I love it. Even Never Enough is starting to grow on me, even though I hate JLB's vocal tone in the verses, with all the Matt Bellamy asthma impersonations.

So? I have the leak? Shoot me be0tch.

When I though I had some tracks off Octavarium, they were apparently not in any way. Although they [B]were[/B] DT, and they were tracks off some other, new album, not previous ones. Don't know which.

Eg. When I got Panic attack it started with a tremolo effect on the guitar. Wrong after listening to the new one it starts off with the bass part. Someone said these tracks were of Jamies Labries new album? Anyway, after d/loading a few Im still going to support the band by [I]buying[/I] the cd.

O and another thing. I feel sorry for James in DT really. In TOT some of the lyrics were done by Petrucci and Jordan, not James, so he only did a few. Portnoy and Petrucci were the main producers of their songs on TOT, amongst other albums, and this happened again in Octavarium.

My copy arrived today. My first impression is very good, but not quite up with what people were saying about it being one of DT's best. When I heard SFAM and ToT I was completely blown away on first listen, I suppose my expectations might have been too high for this one.
Then again, I've only listened to it once, I'll see how I feel after a few listens

EDIT: yeah I forgot to mention, I thought Panic Attack was Muse-like, well Never Enough sounds exactly like a Muse song

[QUOTE=trysthedrummer]O and another thing. I feel sorry for James in DT really. In TOT some of the lyrics were done by Petrucci and Jordan, not James, so he only did a few. Portnoy and Petrucci were the main producers of their songs on TOT, amongst other albums, and this happened again in Octavarium.[/QUOTE]

James has never been the principle lyric writer in DT. It's always been Petrucci and either Moore or Portnoy. The first song JLB wrote the lyrics for in DT was a joint collaboration with Petrucci (Caught In A Web) and he's not really written more than two songs on an album. I think the most he did was on 6DOIT (Blind Faith and Disappear) followed by Octavarium (Sacrificed Sons and the Medicate section of the title track).

And Rudess doesn't write lyrics for DT. Portnoy does, Myung did, but no Rudess.

Oh, and Portnoy and Petrucci have produced the last 4 albums. The last album they did with an outside producer nearly split the band up, remember? I'd do the same thing as they did if that happened to me.

so far Panic Attack is standing out for me. Still a little disappointed with the title track...and I still havent had a good [I]thorough[/I] listen...but so far the album seems very simple. Not as progressive as I may have hoped, and not enough shredding...but like I said, I'm still waiting to sit down and go through the whole album.

james wrote 2 songs on 6 degrees, which happen to be my 2 favourite tracks on that album. he doesn't often write lyrics, and 2 in particular, Vacant and Disappear are very similar, but i like his lyrics a lot anyway.

:lol: Labrie wrote caught in a web? Man i hate him even more now...

I picked up train of thought today, it was interesting....some parts were great, but others just passed me by. Nothing has been able to feed my hunger from Images and words, scenes from a memory came close but didn't quite make it...

How do people rank the albums?

for me it's...

Images and words > Scenes from a memory > Octavarium > awake > Change of seasons > 6 degrees

I haven't including ToT as it's my first listen, though i haven't given 6 degrees much of a chance i fount it really uninspiring....

Opinions on the albums?

I&W = SFAM > ToT > 6DIOT > Awake > WDADU > FII

I haven't included Octavarium yet becuase it hasn't had time to sink in, but at the moment I reckon it would be in between ToT and 6DIOT
And I've not inlcuded ACoS because its an EP, but the song itself is one of the best

What appeals to you abvout ToT and 6 degrees? i sense they are pretty similair in their sound...