[QUOTE=Che Guevara]no, i definitely wouldnt call it anything special. Now granted, my voice totally sucks for something like that, but you have to figure, growls are monotone in nature. Its not like they warm up by growling scales, or what have you, nor do they raise octaves in the same manner.[/QUOTE]
listen to some opeth

i did, i dont like em

I think growls are something people simply grow to like.

Some bands I suppose could be considered as having "entry-level" growls like Bodom or In Flames, but it's something that people need to ease into.

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]no, i definitely wouldnt call it anything special. Now granted, my voice totally sucks for something like that, but you have to figure, growls are monotone in nature. Its not like they warm up by growling scales, or what have you, nor do they raise octaves in the same manner.[/QUOTE]

I have to practice for at least a half hour every day to keep the tone in my growl. It's DEFINITELY not a monotone...have you heard Mikael Akerfeldt do a wordless growl? He can go from octave to octave to octave to octave without even drawing a breath. I really do see where you're coming from in saying that it is a talentless art, but I think that opinion is naive and ill-informed. Just TRY to do sing along to an Opeth song and tell me growling takes no talent.

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]

I believe growling requires 0 talent, and vocals like the ones mentioned above have to actually approach their voice as their instrument.[/QUOTE]
It's a [B]fact [/B]that it requires a lot of talent.

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]How's your Shecter?[/QUOTE]
Amazing. I can't seem to put it down. I love the low B so much.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I have to practice for at least a half hour every day to keep the tone in my growl. It's DEFINITELY not a monotone...have you heard Mikael Akerfeldt do a wordless growl? He can go from octave to octave to octave to octave without even drawing a breath. I really do see where you're coming from in saying that it is a talentless art, but I think that opinion is naive and ill-informed. Just TRY to do sing along to an Opeth song and tell me growling takes no talent.[/QUOTE]



i just think some people are pre-disposed to be able to growl is all. I feel theres more talent involved when talking about someones voice, like Mariah Carey, when compared to growls, regardless of the music they do of course

[QUOTE=repcak]i for myself don't like power metal because of the singing. its the same as Dream Theater .... the instruments, the music is great, but the singer ... > :angry:[/QUOTE]

Cob are power metal.]

edit: for the record, growls take immense talent.

He meant standard power metal with clean/higher pitch vocals though, I believe.

[QUOTE=Squirrel]Cob are power metal.]

edit: for the record, growls take immense talent.[/QUOTE]
[I]extreme power metal[/I] to be exact -> power metal with harsh vocals; and when you will read my previous postings you will realize that the only thing about power metal i dislike is the high pitched singing.

EDIT: Necromonicon is right; i mean standard power metal

I know, i read, i just felt like pointing that out.

lmao @ extreme power metal.

[QUOTE=Squirrel]
lmao @ extreme power metal.[/QUOTE]

It's a legitimate genre...and it's basically the agreed classification for bands like Children of Bodom and Kalmah (pre-Black Waltz).

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]It's a legitimate genre...and it's basically the agreed classification for bands like Children of Bodom and Kalmah (pre-Black Waltz).[/QUOTE]
says who? Oh so because of the neo-classical presence and keyboards, they are automatically powermetal? No harshness intended... im just curious as to why people are always so quick to call them powermetal:)
Not that it matters... why do people care so much about what type of genre a band is labelled as.
COB are kick *** metal and thats good enough for me.

[QUOTE=Matas]says who? Oh so because of the neo-classical presence and keyboards, they are automatically powermetal? No harshness intended... im just curious as to why people are always so quick to call them powermetal:)
Not that it matters... why do people care so much about what type of genre a band is labelled as.
COB are kick *** metal and thats good enough for me.[/QUOTE]

The rhythm riffs are extremely power metal, as well as the percussion. I realize that there are plenty non-power metal bands with keyboards *cough* Emperor, Dark Tranquillity, Coprofago *cough*

We care about genres because we are dumb, is that what you wanted to hear? I never criticized you for failing to categorize your music further than just metal, so what gives you the right to grate on me for being a genre whore?

Hey dude, you're the one being ''hostile'' here. I thought it was pretty clear i didnt wanna piss anyone off:thumb:
But you're right, you didnt criticize me, and i didnt criticize you either. If asking a simple question is qualified as a condescending critique then... pardon me.

NP: Are you dead, yet (the whole album)

the reason why most ppl dislike "Are you dead,yet?" is maybe not because CoB changed their style, cause the guitar-work is still very impressive and nice. its the drumming! the drums sounds strange... like the drums in St.Anger by Metallica.
what do you think`?

anyone read the interview in the new Guitar World with alexi laiho..


he actually retracted the BS he said about john petrucci, and stated that jon was better than he was. My respect for him shot up 2 pts after reading that :thumb:

Same here. That article was pretty good.

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]anyone read the interview in the new Guitar World with alexi laiho..


he actually retracted the BS he said about john petrucci, and stated that jon was better than he was. My respect for him shot up 2 pts after reading that :thumb:[/QUOTE]
can you upload it? scan it and upload it somewhere? would be great:thumb:

[QUOTE=repcak]NP: Are you dead, yet (the whole album)

the reason why most ppl dislike "Are you dead,yet?" is maybe not because CoB changed their style, cause the guitar-work is still very impressive and nice. its the drumming! the drums sounds strange... like the drums in St.Anger by Metallica.
what do you think`?[/QUOTE]
Well the drums do sound strange for ''In Your Face''. during the verse, they reminded me of the St.Anger drums.

Personally, I think the album isnt good because of the guitar sound, the vocals (older ones were much better). Also, I dont like where they're going with the sloppiness of the bass. Example: in If You Want Peace Prepare for War and Bastards of Bodom.
its still better than lots of other crap out there though.

[QUOTE=Matas]Hey dude, you're the one being ''hostile'' here. I thought it was pretty clear i didnt wanna piss anyone off:thumb:
But you're right, you didnt criticize me, and i didnt criticize you either. If asking a simple question is qualified as a condescending critique then... pardon me.[/QUOTE]

Ah, my apologies. I think I misunderstood the intent of your post. Sorry :)

[QUOTE=repcak]can you upload it? scan it and upload it somewhere? would be great:thumb:[/QUOTE]


sorry bro, i dont have a scanner, or a digital camera for that matter :upset:

When was this issue of Guitar World released? Who is on the cover? The last one I got had Gilmour on the cover and I saw no Laiho article.

It's the newest issue.

it has a special foil wrapper (275th issue) and has Adam Jones of TOoL on it :D

hm... the guitar world mag we get with a 1month delay here in europe... :( is worth to buy it? GW is not the cheapiest magazine :/

i think it is. mine was 8 american with the CD

@MRDuCran: Have you checked out the tab to the solo of "Passage to the fourth world"? Especially the first run by Roope! I can't imagine you can play it this way on such a speed! the finger stretching, at the end of the first run by Roope, when you reach the high e-string, is incredible ...
you're the better guitar player, so i would like to know if its "possible" or if the tab is just false.

Could you post the tab?

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]it has a special foil wrapper (275th issue) and has Adam Jones of TOoL on it :D[/QUOTE]


Thats cool. I should be getting that in the mail within the next few days.

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Could you post the tab?[/QUOTE]


I was listening to that song last night. That solo is damn good.