[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17343529]Not many ppl in the metalcore actually dislike em, it's just Retired and I.[/QUOTE]

im just confused as to how u could ever say vanna is better

[QUOTE=TomTheOverlord;17343586]im just confused as to how u could ever say vanna is better[/QUOTE]

not as many scene kids like them therefore they aren't as trendy so it doesn't tarnish his "cred"

i'm really diggin the song indonesia on the new album, they have tommy rogers on a little part

[QUOTE=TomTheOverlord;17343236]i like abr better tbh[/QUOTE]

ABR is great. Vanna is enjoyable.

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;17343558]yeah new abr owns.[/QUOTE]

negative

translation: needs to be cheesier and tastelessy complex

well considering new abr has some hella cheesy moments thats saying something. 3 or 4 good songs though

thrill seeker or nothing basically. I can't really listen to Messengers either

new ABR is jizzworthy, going to see them July 18 in Omaha. Provided i have the money...

:lol:

new abr was like messengers with lots of wank and ****

it was pretty bland, and there are some really out of place stuff like this one breakdown at the end of Marianas Trench and Tommy from BTBAM's singing

[QUOTE=sean2332;17344075]new ABR is jizzworthy, going to see them July 18 in Omaha. Provided i have the money...[/QUOTE]
like jizzing into a hornets nest of spikes

Can't wait to see ABR myself

[QUOTE=TomTheOverlord;17343216]everything by vanna[/QUOTE]

GTFO

Vanna are underrated, Vox are excellent.

i cant get into Vanna at all. the vocals arent that bad though. just something about them doesnt do much for me. maybe ill give them a listen again some time

no they arent.

[QUOTE=jrowa001;17344166]i cant get into Vanna at all. the vocals arent that bad though. just something about them doesnt do much for me. maybe ill give them a listen again some time[/QUOTE]

I've loved them from their EP, I mean I know they aren't elite by any stretch but they just have a sound that I really enjoy.

vanna is zero unique imo

i saw one of their videos on tv, it was =/

the one where hes like hanging from an elevator shaft?

I was gonna start listening to ABR but then I found my Muse discography which I haven't heard in months.

Level of 1-10 how metalcore are Muse?

11.5

muse had epic breakdownz

The metalcore influences can mostly be found in the vocals imo

yeah agreed, i really hope their new album has alot of screaming verse/ clean chorus/ screaming verse/ clean chorus/ breakdown/ clean chorus (back up screams)

they bring da ruckas

Dude don't even get me started on the clear Wu-Tang influence

[QUOTE=Countorus;17344197]yeah agreed, i really hope their new album has alot of screaming verse/ clean chorus/ screaming verse/ clean chorus/ breakdown/ clean chorus (back up screams)[/QUOTE]

I heard they are going to redefine metalcore with the screaming chorus (clean back up vocals)

new killswitch engage. LOL.

[QUOTE=Against Miik!;17344206]I heard they are going to redefine metalcore with the screaming chorus (clean back up vocals)[/QUOTE]
groundbreaking songwriting

[QUOTE=xMalcolmXx;17344335]new killswitch engage. LOL.[/QUOTE]

oh man is this true, i kinda hoped it might be actually decent but I was waaaaay wrong. Songs and subject matter are terrible and Howard Jones sounds like ****ing ****. This release is stinky

killswitches lyrical content makes me giggle

killswitch used to be good

then they wrote the end of heartache and....

i enjoyed As Daylight Dies...

I thoroughly enjoyed The End of Heartache... I believe it all went downhill with As Daylight Dies. Then they just started to get lazy. Holy Diver cover was pretty good, though.

i kind of hated everything about it except for holy diver :-/

edit: the end of heartache had it's moments but that was where it went downhill, at least for me. they were also the band that got me into metal in 6th/7th grade so i kind of have a weak spot for them. :-/ x2

As Daylight Dies=Holy Diver...

[QUOTE=mathjic;17344349]oh man is this true, i kinda hoped it might be actually decent but I was waaaaay wrong. Songs and subject matter are terrible and Howard Jones sounds like ****ing ****. This release is stinky[/QUOTE]

this. new abr however = epic win.

Yes. New ABR is awesome. First ABR album I've ever listened to, but by damn was it good.

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;17344513]this. new abr however = epic win.[/QUOTE]

only really liked thrill seeker

[QUOTE=UhhKris;17344515]Yes. New ABR is awesome. First ABR album I've ever listened to, but by damn was it good.[/QUOTE]

all their stuff is great tbh.
minus maybe the ep haha. but the ep is them being like retarded young.

[QUOTE=dantesfire10;17344512]As Daylight Dies=Holy Diver...[/QUOTE]

yes?

[QUOTE=dantesfire10;17344517]only really liked thrill seeker[/QUOTE]

a lot of people say that and honestly there's not that much of a difference in thrill seeker and messengers besides maybe production and jake having a more noticeable vocal range than josh did (again perhaps due to the production)

maybe its just because more scene kids didnt know about them when thrill seeker came out then messengers came out and scene kids discovered them and they lost their e-cred? :confused: